General & Others Imagine if Pain ran away from Jiraiya. Oda made BB run away instead of taking a W.

[MonsterKaido]

BB getting clowned at this stage is meh ngl. He is supposed to be one of the end game villains but gets scared of Old top tier

 

[Peenix]

Why not give BB the W? Perfect opportunity to hype up your end game antagonist. Make BB split the sky with Rayleigh, anything other than running away. BB going to Amazon Lilly for a devil fruit makes no sense, seems completely random. BB went to Amazon Lilly specifically to capture a character with a devil fruit and comes out of Amazon Lilly by kidnapping a character with no devil fruit. A wasted opportunity for one of your end game Antagonist. When BB kidnapped Ace, there was coherent set up, it wasn't random. We also got to see a page and half of Ace vs BB and it made BB look great. BB came out of that fight with a W. But comparing this Koby/BB situation to the Ace situation is night and day.

Also, what was the point of the BB vs Balitgo Dragon offscreen incident? What was the point of that subplot? Dragon is fine with attacking Baltigo and Dragon but isn't fine with Rayliegh. Incoherent story lines.

Edit: I used the Jiraiya Pain reference since Jiraiya and Rayleigh are so similar character wise. Rayleigh could have had his Jiraiya moment. Also, I wanted to poke fun at Oda writing at the same time.

Cause Blackbeard being a spineless coward is part of what makes him so entertaining

 

[Master OF Haki]

He already confirmed he a top tier by his bounty, standing in the world has a Yonkou.

Bounty means nothing. Kid and Law have 3bill, that by itself discredited the bounties, no matter what excuse people use.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Bounty means nothing. Kid and Law have 3bill, that by itself discredited the bounties, no matter what excuse people use.

1. Bounty takes into account strength go reread the story clown.
2. How does Law and Kid having 3 billion discount bounties. What are you even talking about

 

[Herrera95]

I think Pain easily beating Jiraya sucks. One thing is surpassing your teacher, another thing is surpassing to the level you humiliate him.

And Jiraya was already a top tier ninja.

 

[Master OF Haki]

1. Bounty takes into account strength go reread the story clown.
2. How does Law and Kid having 3 billion discount bounties. What are you even talking about

You immediately using insults one post after we disagreed just shows which one of us is actually a clown.

 

[KINGZORO]

Why not give BB the W? Perfect opportunity to hype up your end game antagonist. Make BB split the sky with Rayleigh, anything other than running away. BB going to Amazon Lilly for a devil fruit makes no sense, seems completely random. BB went to Amazon Lilly specifically to capture a character with a devil fruit and comes out of Amazon Lilly by kidnapping a character with no devil fruit. A wasted opportunity for one of your end game Antagonist. When BB kidnapped Ace, there was coherent set up, it wasn't random. We also got to see a page and half of Ace vs BB and it made BB look great. BB came out of that fight with a W. But comparing this Koby/BB situation to the Ace situation is night and day.

Also, what was the point of the BB vs Balitgo Dragon offscreen incident? What was the point of that subplot? Dragon is fine with attacking Baltigo and Dragon but isn't fine with Rayliegh. Incoherent story lines.

Edit: I used the Jiraiya Pain reference since Jiraiya and Rayleigh are so similar character wise. Rayleigh could have had his Jiraiya moment. Also, I wanted to poke fun at Oda writing at the same time.

Hating on Blackbeard? Instead of calling it incoherent storyline, try to read all of the dialogue.


- He can't do anything against Hancock, who would've turned him and others into stone, if Rayleigh ended up rescuing her. That's how hax she is. Even your Admirals would succumb to the same fate, outside of maybe Fujitora since he can't see.

- The other choice being he kills Hancock, with Rayleigh failing to rescue her. Then what happens? Well he lost two of his strongest commanders that are considered "legendary pirates" that "shook the world" (more hype than any YC from Kaido or BM). All for what exactly?? A DF for which he's gotta find a beauty? Lol.


He attacked Dragon with his entire fleet as far as we know, with Shiryuu and them there. This isn't the case here. There is no hax involved with Dragon that guarantees him destroying all of the Blackbeard pirates like it did with Hancock, who again fodderized two of his strongest commanders.

Rayleigh & Jiraiya aren't the same at all.


This is simply Blackbeard being smart:

- He came to Amazon Lilly without having full info on how Hancock's abilities work
- Realized the ability is more tricky than he thought (samething that cross Koby's mind) after Hancock explained it to him.
- Then left knowing he can't deal with that hax & Rayleigh at the sametime without losing his commanders and himself.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

This is simply Blackbeard being smart:

- He came to Amazon Lilly without having full info on how Hancock's abilities work

Woah, now that’s smart

 

[KINGZORO]

Woah, now that’s smart

All characters have succumbed to ignorance. Not having full knowledge on something doesn't equate one to not being smart. What you do after you discover you didn't have full knowledge on the ability is what decides if you're smart.

Blackbeard smartly backed off knowing he can't handle that hax.

Akainu sent a marine Fleet and pacifistas after Hancock, who she instantly fodderized. And pacifistas she would've fodderized had she fought them. Is he an idiot or simply ignorant to the full extent and prowess of Hancock's abilities?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

All characters have succumbed to ignorance. Not having full knowledge on something doesn't equate one to not being smart. What you do after you discover you didn't have full knowledge on the ability is what decides if you're smart.

Blackbeard smartly backed off knowing he can't handle that hax.

Blackbeard ain’t smart, he’s a bumbling dumb ass with luck

 

[KINGZORO]

Blackbeard ain’t smart, he’s a bumbling dumb ass with luck

Akainu sent a marine Fleet and pacifistas after Hancock, who she instantly fodderized. And pacifistas she would've fodderized had she fought them. Is he an idiot or simply ignorant to the full extent and prowess of Hancock's abilities?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Akainu sent a marine Fleet and pacifistas after Hancock, who she instantly fodderized. And pacifistas she would've fodderized had she fought them. Is he an idiot or simply ignorant to the full extent and prowess of Hancock's abilities?

Vice admirals + Pacista is enough for Hancock, those Pacifistas are YC level and not horny

 

[KINGZORO]

Vice admirals + Pacista is enough for Hancock, those Pacifistas are YC level and not horny

Vice Admirals + entire marines = fodderized within seconds.
Koby - saved by Blackbeard from being fodderized

As for pacifistas, you don't need to be horny for her to fodderize you, she can turn into stone inanimate objects.

Read what happened in the manga, not your headcanon of what is enough for Hancock.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Ask yaself this question, if you were in Blackbeard's shoes, what would y'all gonna do? You got a hax Warlord occupied on one arm and an old legend in front of you and you can't use Gura in risk of your comrades dying..... Yeah I ain't gonna risk it Lmao. Teach made a good decision here.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Vice Admirals + entire marines = fodderized within seconds.
Koby - saved by Blackbeard from being fodderized

As for pacifistas, you don't need to be horny for her to fodderize you, she can turn into stone inanimate objects.

The Pacifistas are individually stronger than Boa.

 

[KINGZORO]

The Pacifistas are individually stronger than Boa.

Doesn't matter if they are, moment she touches one, they turn stone.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Ask yaself this question, if you were in Blackbeard's shoes, what would y'all gonna do? You got a hax Warlord occupied on one arm and an old legend in front of you and you can't use Gura in risk of your comrades dying..... Yeah I ain't gonna risk it Lmao. Teach made a good decision here.

Big Mom or Kaido wouldn’t stop there, and then go on to wash Rayleigh

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Doesn't matter if they are, moment she touches one, they turn stone.

And they have Kizaru lazers + Mihawk level attack range so they can one shot her too.

The Mihawk Seraphim gave Blackbeard more trouble than Boa. That’s a fact.

 

[KINGZORO]

Ask yaself this question, if you were in Blackbeard's shoes, what would y'all gonna do? You got a hax Warlord occupied on one arm and an old legend in front of you and you can't use Gura in risk of your comrades dying..... Yeah I ain't gonna risk it Lmao. Teach made a good decision here.

Kaido and BM would be turned into stone, they don't have the Yami Yami.

 

[gz89]

First "final" villain in the entire manga history who would not beat any strong opponent and his only flex will be ace and hancock (and Shanks because reasons).

 

[KINGZORO]

And they have Kizaru lazers + Mihawk level attack range so they can one shot her too.

The Mihawk Seraphim gave Blackbeard more trouble than Boa. That’s a fact.

Not even sure wtf you on about.

The moment she touches the pacifista they turn into stone. Those lazers ain't doing shit to her when she's gonna be dodging them. Neither are "mihawk level" attack range that pre-TS Luffy was dodging casually. (fucking lol at you calling them Mihawk level).