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Doffy’s haki is stronger than Vergo’s so I don’t even know what you think vergo would do… And Pica is just a walking stone, the only reason he was a problem for Zoro is because Zoro had mobility issues… Doffy will simply fly to where Pica’s real body is in the stone and cut him clean through
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How was Mingo haki stronger? Mingo haki was broken just from grabbing law's sword. Vergo fought smoker law and sanji all in the same arc back to back to back. Before ge went down to law's hax his full body coa didn't even look damaged despite these fights. We didn't see vergo max fighting ability but mingo himself was hyping it up and we know it was stronger than the level he was fighting at before. Pika can completely change the terrain of the battle field and not only attack Mingo but help vergo. Mingo would have the same problem as pika is extremely hard to get out of stone. Zoro cut the stone pika was in plenty of times but it doesn't matter unless you hit pika real body in the stone. How does Mingo know where pika's real body is in the stone? Op fans really don't know how team battles work and act like it's 1 v 1 followed by a 1 v 1. Mingo can't just focus on pika and just fly up to him with vergo there. Vergo and pika can both attack Mingo from different angles and help each other.
When the main villian could solo thier crew it's because the had a unique ability that let them not just because they were leaders. Most leaders of crews and organizations cannot solo thier entire crews. Example like BW with croc none of his crew could do anything to him because he was a logia and he kill them all. It's not a standard or common for a leader to solo their crews. If it was it'd be flipped and there would be very few leaders that couldn't solo their organizations than could.
He damaged g4 luffy… Also he beat law… The law that beat vergo
how is this hard to understand? Doffy fought both Luffy and law and beat law and almost beat Luffy if not for a bunch of randos saving Luffy mid fight
also, Law cut vergo so I don’t even know why you think law damaging Doffy somehow proves vergo is superior
how is this hard to understand? Doffy fought both Luffy and law and beat law and almost beat Luffy if not for a bunch of randos saving Luffy mid fight
also, Law cut vergo so I don’t even know why you think law damaging Doffy somehow proves vergo is superior
Vergo got negged by law. Same law Doffy had upper hand on 
1. Where did he damage g4? Yea he beat law as he didn't underestimate law like vergo did. Vergo just ran at law thinking his hax wouldn't do anything to him. If he known law had gotten stronger he wouldn't fought law like that.
2. Mingo had 1 clash with law and luffy together where he was embarrassed. Then they were immediately separated because it was to much for Mingo. Mingo beat law because he already knew law's tricks and how to fight law. A big part of law's fighting style is you not knowing how his df works and falling for his tricks. Luffy would have beat Mingo sooner if not for plot. Luffy waited till the last possible moment to bring out g4. If he brought out g4 when he had law with him they would have low diff led mingo in a few minutes if that. Team fights are vastly different just like you just said he beat law and almost beat luffy. Yet together they embarrassed mingo and would low to mid diff him. Team fights alot harder than 1 v1 followed by 1 v 1.vergo and pika alone would have mingo pushed to him limits to beat them together. Add the rest of the crew and he's losing.
3. You said his haki was strongerthen Vergo’s and I asked how. Mingo just grabbing law's sword broke his haki while Vergo’s haki could break smokers. You can't just make statements. Mingo is stronger than vergo because he has better feats. That doesn't mean everything Mingo has is better than vergo. Case in point coa. Are you going to explain how mingo's coa is stronger? This us the same Mingo with awakening was struggling to break a exhausted Luffy's coa when it just came back and he could barely move.
Vergo was fast and could fly to. We already saw he could react to law's teleporting when he instantly got to law when he tried to get his heart back. Mingo beat law because he didn't fall for law's tricks and knew how his df work. The difference between vergo and Mingo when fighting law was vergo thought his hax wouldn't work on him because it didn't in the past. Vergo losing is why Mingo never let law touch him with his hax not once. Vergo can do the same to law as he knew his tricks and how his df worked he just thought they wouldn't work on him. Like I said if Mingo just went right at law like vergo did he'd be neg diffed to.
2. Mingo had 1 clash with law and luffy together where he was embarrassed. Then they were immediately separated because it was to much for Mingo. Mingo beat law because he already knew law's tricks and how to fight law. A big part of law's fighting style is you not knowing how his df works and falling for his tricks. Luffy would have beat Mingo sooner if not for plot. Luffy waited till the last possible moment to bring out g4. If he brought out g4 when he had law with him they would have low diff led mingo in a few minutes if that. Team fights are vastly different just like you just said he beat law and almost beat luffy. Yet together they embarrassed mingo and would low to mid diff him. Team fights alot harder than 1 v1 followed by 1 v 1.vergo and pika alone would have mingo pushed to him limits to beat them together. Add the rest of the crew and he's losing.
3. You said his haki was strongerthen Vergo’s and I asked how. Mingo just grabbing law's sword broke his haki while Vergo’s haki could break smokers. You can't just make statements. Mingo is stronger than vergo because he has better feats. That doesn't mean everything Mingo has is better than vergo. Case in point coa. Are you going to explain how mingo's coa is stronger? This us the same Mingo with awakening was struggling to break a exhausted Luffy's coa when it just came back and he could barely move.
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Vergo was fast and could fly to. We already saw he could react to law's teleporting when he instantly got to law when he tried to get his heart back. Mingo beat law because he didn't fall for law's tricks and knew how his df work. The difference between vergo and Mingo when fighting law was vergo thought his hax wouldn't work on him because it didn't in the past. Vergo losing is why Mingo never let law touch him with his hax not once. Vergo can do the same to law as he knew his tricks and how his df worked he just thought they wouldn't work on him. Like I said if Mingo just went right at law like vergo did he'd be neg diffed to.
He was beat because he just ran at law. Why tmdo you keep just ignoring this. He didn't try protect himself or stop law because he thought the attack would do nothing to him because it didn't in the past. If Mingo did the same thing Mingo would get neg diff to. Vergo losing is why Mingo fought law cautiously. Just lying and saying vergo was speed blitzed when if that was Thales case law would have got his heart back a his teleporting would have been to fast for vergo to notice.
2. The old Mingo parasites everyone. Care to explain how Mingo will land parasites? Only time Mingo has landed parasite is when a character isn't moving around or when they were doing something wlelse and didn't notice him. Why did Mingo even fight law or luffy. Why didn't he just parasite them and immediately win?
3. You are misunderstanding all the characters. Vergo lost because he underestimated law not thinking his attacks would work on him. Mingo beat law not because of haki or versatility but because he was far physically superior, was way better at cqc, and never fell for law's df tricks. Vergo can literally do the same to law. Smoker was beating law until mes which he didn't know about.vergo knows all law's moves and would have fallen for mes. If vergo fought law like Mingo did vergo would beat law.
2. The old Mingo parasites everyone. Care to explain how Mingo will land parasites? Only time Mingo has landed parasite is when a character isn't moving around or when they were doing something wlelse and didn't notice him. Why did Mingo even fight law or luffy. Why didn't he just parasite them and immediately win?
3. You are misunderstanding all the characters. Vergo lost because he underestimated law not thinking his attacks would work on him. Mingo beat law not because of haki or versatility but because he was far physically superior, was way better at cqc, and never fell for law's df tricks. Vergo can literally do the same to law. Smoker was beating law until mes which he didn't know about.vergo knows all law's moves and would have fallen for mes. If vergo fought law like Mingo did vergo would beat law.
Bruh vergo only has one ranged attack other than that he fights at cqc. He went as fast as possible to land his attack on law and failed. Vergo is not smoker who can use logia to dodge attacks.
Luffy broke out of parasite using G4. Lergo is not on that level. He gets played by doffy.
Vergo didn't underestimated law otherwise he wouldn't need to keep using law's heart in battles. Vergo fights at close range. He wanted to blitz law before law lands his attack and failed to do so. Plain and simple.
Luffy broke out of parasite using G4. Lergo is not on that level. He gets played by doffy.
Vergo didn't underestimated law otherwise he wouldn't need to keep using law's heart in battles. Vergo fights at close range. He wanted to blitz law before law lands his attack and failed to do so. Plain and simple.
1. He doesn't need ranged attacks to fight law. Mingo was beating mostly in cqc and stayed close to law so law couldn't set up in tricks. Smoker was beating law mainly in cqc and wasn't using ranged attacks much. The key to stopping law is being good enough to beat him in cqc without letting him get his kit off. Most of what Mingo did vergo could do if he had fought that way. He could force law into cqc like Mingo did, he can physically overpower law like Mingo did, he knows all law's tricks like Mingo does, and he can deal with law's teleporting by being fast enough to react to it. Literally the difference is vergo just went at law not caring if law hit him while Mingo fought law cautiously and actively didn't let law hit him with anything.
2. I asked how Mingo will land parasite. When he got luffy in it luffy could barely move. The only time parasite has ever worked is when a character is distracted or stationary. Mingo has never just pulled out parasite and immediately trapped someone in it. He didn't just immediately use on law and luffy because it wouldn't have worked.
3. The entire point with vergo powering up and Mingo hyping him was that in the past law couldn't do anything to vergo when he did it before. Vergo just charged at law and didn't care if law hit him because he didn't think law's moves would work on him. It wasn't about blitzing he was going to torture law. His goal wasn't to just beat law but punish and humiliate him like he did in the past. You just keep making stuff uplike law somehow blitzing vergo then vergo trying to blitz law. If Mingo did what vergo did he'd be neg diff. Vergo can fight how smoker and Mingo did where both were winning because of the physical difference and being better at cqc than law. This entire law point is you just not understanding the fight. Just cuz law neg diff vergo doesn't mean Mingo can. Law could because his df allows those types of 1 shot attacks while mingos doesn't.
2. I asked how Mingo will land parasite. When he got luffy in it luffy could barely move. The only time parasite has ever worked is when a character is distracted or stationary. Mingo has never just pulled out parasite and immediately trapped someone in it. He didn't just immediately use on law and luffy because it wouldn't have worked.
3. The entire point with vergo powering up and Mingo hyping him was that in the past law couldn't do anything to vergo when he did it before. Vergo just charged at law and didn't care if law hit him because he didn't think law's moves would work on him. It wasn't about blitzing he was going to torture law. His goal wasn't to just beat law but punish and humiliate him like he did in the past. You just keep making stuff uplike law somehow blitzing vergo then vergo trying to blitz law. If Mingo did what vergo did he'd be neg diff. Vergo can fight how smoker and Mingo did where both were winning because of the physical difference and being better at cqc than law. This entire law point is you just not understanding the fight. Just cuz law neg diff vergo doesn't mean Mingo can. Law could because his df allows those types of 1 shot attacks while mingos doesn't.