General & Others Imu will be able to 1v5 the Gorosei

#22
What? What does this even mean?

If your argument is that Imu won’t even be a strawhats villain then fine but that doesn’t invalidate the pattern… that just means that Imu doesn’t even qualify as part of the pattern

Anyway, teach will also help obviously have to be able to solo his crew… every Yonko will have to able to solo their crews
Yes, Mary Geoise is Home of Celestial Dragons & their Knights
Luffy Liberates Locations from Villains who are Oppressing People of said Location, not force Everyone to Leave so that Outsiders can come Live

So Imu cannot be Compared to Villains you mentioned, He is gonna be either an Ally, Third Party or Secondary Villain
As for Blackbeard, He can't Solo his Crew, but soon He will get a Power-Up & become that Powerful
 
#24
Yes, Mary Geoise is Home of Celestial Dragons & their Knights
Luffy Liberates Locations from Villains who are Oppressing People of said Location, not force Everyone to Leave so that Outsiders can come Live

So Imu cannot be Compared to Villains you mentioned, He is gonna be either an Ally, Third Party or Secondary Villain
As for Blackbeard, He can't Solo his Crew, but soon He will get a Power-Up & become that Powerful
Thing is the Celestial Dragons aren't just people, they are overall portrayed as villanous, and Mary Geoise is a place built ex profeso for them, not occupied by an outsider; if anything, the role you're giving to the world royals would belong to lunarians.
 
#25
Yes, Mary Geoise is Home of Celestial Dragons & their Knights
Luffy Liberates Locations from Villains who are Oppressing People of said Location, not force Everyone to Leave so that Outsiders can come Live

So Imu cannot be Compared to Villains you mentioned, He is gonna be either an Ally, Third Party or Secondary Villain
As for Blackbeard, He can't Solo his Crew, but soon He will get a Power-Up & become that Powerful
I mean Mariejois is going to be destroyed when the red line is destroyed so… your reasoning here doesn’t work
 
#26
Thing is the Celestial Dragons aren't just people, they are overall portrayed as villanous, and Mary Geoise is a place built ex profeso for them, not occupied by an outsider; if anything, the role you're giving to the world royals would belong to lunarians.
Mary Geoise wasn't built for CDs, it already existed before They lived there
It's 20 OG Kings who went to Live there & no one said that They invaded it

Actually if They took it by force to become WG, then Nefertari would have been included in that Invasion
But it's clearly stated that Nefertari did found WG, but didn't go to live in Mary Geoise
Meaning WG was Established & People accepted it before those Kings even set foot in Mary Geoise
Why would They need to Invade it if They are already appointed Rulers of The World?

Seeing it's Design & Castles, it's clearly that it has always been Home of Knights & those Holy Knights are probably Descendants of OG Inhabitants who vow to Protect Order

There is nothing that says Lunarians lived in Mary Geoise, actually WB hinted that it didn't even exist when They had their own Kingdom
And Red Line is Huge, it's literally as Big as Grand Line, nothing says that They were living in same spot as Mary Geoise

Also if you look at all Locations that Luffy Liberated, Oppressed People were Living in said Location
So Oppressed People of Mary Geoise War must be already Living there, even if in some Corner
Not completely far from it

Also Oda created a Land for Samurai & Land for Vikings, it's obvious that Knights also have their Own Land
Not to mention that Main Villain of such Arcs is Known, not Hidden like Imu

Morgan
Buggy
Kuro
Krieg
Arlong
Wapol
Crocodile
Enel
Moria
Hody
Caesar
Doffy
Kaidou

These Villains are known to anyone who lives on their Island or Visits it
Regardless if seen as Heroes or Villains, but Imu is Hidden, even those who work in Mary Geoise don't know about him
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I mean Mariejois is going to be destroyed when the red line is destroyed so… your reasoning here doesn’t work
Red Line is many Islands Connected together
It's not like it will Disappear from Existence, it simply will be Split into Pieces & turn into countless Islands scattered around the World
So Mary Geoise doesn't necessarily need to be Destroyed when Red Line is shattered, it will simply turn into an Island
 
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#28
Mary Geoise wasn't built for CDs, it already existed before They lived there
It's 20 OG Kings who went to Live there & no one said that They invaded it

Actually if They took it by force to become WG, then Nefertari would have been included in that Invasion
But it's clearly stated that Nefertari did found WG, but didn't go to live in Mary Geoise
Meaning WG was Established & People accepted it before those Kings even set foot in Mary Geoise
Why would They need to Invade it if They are already appointed Rulers of The World?

Seeing it's Design & Castles, it's clearly that it has always been Home of Knights & those Holy Knights are probably Descendants of OG Inhabitants who vow to Protect Order

There is nothing that says Lunarians lived in Mary Geoise, actually WB hinted that it didn't even exist when They had their own Kingdom
And Red Line is Huge, it's literally as Big as Grand Line, nothing says that They were living in same spot as Mary Geoise

Also if you look at all Locations that Luffy Liberated, Oppressed People were Living in said Location
So Oppressed People of Mary Geoise War must be already Living there, even if in some Corner
Not completely far from it

Also Oda created a Land for Samurai & Land for Vikings, it's obvious that Knights also have their Own Land
Not to mention that Main Villain of such Arcs is Known, not Hidden like Imu

Morgan
Buggy
Kuro
Krieg
Arlong
Wapol
Crocodile
Enel
Moria
Hody
Caesar
Doffy
Kaidou

These Villains are known to anyone who lives on their Island or Visits it
Regardless if seen as Heroes or Villains, but Imu is Hidden, even those who work in Mary Geoise don't know about him
Mary Geoise existed before the creators moved there because they wouldn't move to a wasteland; doesn't negate it wasn't built for them, and even if it wasn't, that would still make the Celestials (and Imu as an original creator) the invaders to be dethroned.

The Holy Knights are probably Celestial Dragons, not descendants of the original inhabitants, considering Garling is a Celestial himself. "Knights" being comparable to vikings and samurai is completely made up by you, by the way; far from obvious.

Lunarians could have lived in the other side of Red Line, but that's completely pointless from a narrative perspective, and the contrast between lunarians as "rightful gods" who inhabited a Kingdom of Gods but were eventually hunted down by the "false gods" who built a Sacred Land in their territory is way more likely than any "theory" of yours with which you hijack every thread you post in.

When it comes to Imu and the Celestial Dragons, the oppresed people are those under the World Government. Morgan had a base; Buggy had a little town; Doflamingo had Dressrosa; Kaidou had territories with Wano as his main base... and Imu has most of the world. Simple as that; it isn't about literally living there because by dethroning Imu you aren't liberating a small town but a planet.
 
#29
Mary Geoise existed before the creators moved there because they wouldn't move to a wasteland; doesn't negate it wasn't built for them, and even if it wasn't, that would still make the Celestials (and Imu as an original creator) the invaders to be dethroned.

The Holy Knights are probably Celestial Dragons, not descendants of the original inhabitants, considering Garling is a Celestial himself. "Knights" being comparable to vikings and samurai is completely made up by you, by the way; far from obvious.

Lunarians could have lived in the other side of Red Line, but that's completely pointless from a narrative perspective, and the contrast between lunarians as "rightful gods" who inhabited a Kingdom of Gods but were eventually hunted down by the "false gods" who built a Sacred Land in their territory is way more likely than any "theory" of yours with which you hijack every thread you post in.

When it comes to Imu and the Celestial Dragons, the oppresed people are those under the World Government. Morgan had a base; Buggy had a little town; Doflamingo had Dressrosa; Kaidou had territories with Wano as his main base... and Imu has most of the world. Simple as that; it isn't about literally living there because by dethroning Imu you aren't liberating a small town but a planet.
U lost me when u started talking about hijacking & stuff, i thought u wanted a genuine discussion
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#34
I think people going nuts over a potential Luffy vs 5 Gorosei are missing the part where it’s very likely that Imu can defeat all 5 Gorosei together

Why is this likely? Because that’s how the villains always are. Kaido can solo his crew. Big mom can solo her crew. Doffy can solo his crew. Crocodile could solo baroque works. Moria could solo his crew (with shadows Asgard). Hody could solo his crew (post steroids). Arlong could solo his crews. Enel can solo his priests

The only time it’s debatable if the villain can do this is if the villain isn’t even the real leader of the crew. Caeser was just a Doffy stooge hence why Vergo was stronger than him. Lucci was technically Spandam’s henchman. Katakuri is Big mom’s bitch.

It’s entirely possible Imu can solo the Gorosei + the Holy knights combined.

So current Luffy being able to either extreme diff the Gorosei combined or at least put up a VERY GOOD performance isn’t that out of pocket.


And people who have a problem with this outcome because it says something about the gap between Luffy and his crew, it’s time to start considering that EoS Luffy will stronger than HIS ENTIRE CREW COMBINED… as in EoS Luffy > EoS Strawhats + EoS Grand fleet + EoS honorary strawhats like Momo and Yamato…

Does this seem ridiculous? It shouldn’t be. Oda has to give a reason why Luffy is the man who will save the world… It has to be very obvious why NO ONE ELSE for 800 years could do it.

As in if the combined strawhats could be capable to equaling Luffy, then why wouldn’t the combined strawhats save the world instead of Luffy? Why in the last 800 years hasn’t there been a group or an individual that saved the world? Why didn’t Joyboy himself 800 years ago save the world?… well he ain’t Luffy… Oda has to make it EXTREMELY CLEAR that ONLY LUFFY can do this.

So Luffy will be Top 1 to have ever lived in the OP universe because only Luffy can save the world. It’s destiny, baby.
Wrong.
Perona can solo her crew and Strawhats together, Usopp aside. That's because of the nature of her power. Enel is the same.
Imu will also likely have the same theme of irresistible powers that will allow her to solo countless people.

However this creates a false sense of superiority and people think Imu is on a completely different level, which is wrong.
Perona is on a weaker general level than Ryuma, Oars and Moriah and yet she can solo all 3 at the same time.

Kaido cant solo his crew, he cannot beat King who is both faster and with superior defense.
Big mom cant solo her crew if they grow a pair of balls.
No way can Doffy handle his executives alone let alone others included, lol.
What is Crocodile going to do to Mr1? Lol...
Roger cant solo his crew, WB cant solo his crew, Shanks cant solo his crew, Blackbeard can't solo his crew, Luffy cant solo his crew.
There are very few people who can solo their crew and that is always because of hax powers.

Perona, Enel and perhaps Imu will be in that group.
 
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