Current Events In 3 Quick Chapters, Oda Ruined The Portrayal Of The Marines, Dragon, And Mihawk

1) Yonko level bounty based on strength alone.
Not based on fake news like Kidd, Buggy, Law or WCI Luffy.
Not counting clout, influence and territories like Yonkos

2) More skilled than Shanks.
Skill level directly translates to strength. This is something that anti Zoro pirates gang always fails to realize.

Mihawk to Zoro in chapter 50:
"There is no strength in a sword without softness."
According to Mihawk having less skills means you're weaker.

3) Shat on Yonko title, it's not worthy the effort for him.
You don't refuse a post you think you are inferior to in the way Mihawk did.
Mihawk's way of refusing Yonko's post clearly shows that he couldn't care less about that position and he has no inferiority complex about yonko's post.
He's on that level, if not greater
 
More skilled than Shanks.
Skill level directly translates to strength. This is something that anti Zoro pirates gang always fails to realize.
Completey false. Yasopp is more skilled at range weapon usage Ben Beckman, this clearly does not mean he's stronger.

To put it simple, Oda had literally 0 reason to say "More Skilled" if it was irrelevant.

“Post Arc is gonna go crazy!” they said.

The portrayal of Marines and admirals got wrecked by Sabo and Shanks.

Dragon is literally being overshadowed by Sabo before entering the damn story.

Mihawk is now an ally (best case) or subordinate (worst case) of Buggy, and is both mentioned and regarded in the same breath as CROCODILE.

Oda doesn’t give a shit about legacy characters.
Why was there no out cry when Oda made Buggy a yonkou or having two of the Yonkou being defeated in the same arc?
 
Completey false. Yasopp is more skilled at range weapon usage Ben Beckman, this clearly does not mean he's stronger.

To put it simple, Oda had literally 0 reason to say "More Skilled" if it was irrelevant.
why are you comparing apple to oranges?

this is swordsmanship that I was talking about and Mihawk says that skills translates to strength in swordsmanship. Mihawk's words couldn't be more clear

so stop with disingenous comparisons. Are you going against what Mihawk said? He has the ultimate word when it comes to swrodsmanship, what he says it's true
 
Completey false. Yasopp is more skilled at range weapon usage Ben Beckman, this clearly does not mean he's stronger.

To put it simple, Oda had literally 0 reason to say "More Skilled" if it was irrelevant.
True, skill =/= strength. Yassop is more skilled, Beckman is stronger, however;
Shanks for example would have trouble landing hits on Vista “in a sword duel” even if Shanks is stronger than him, simply due to the fact that Vista is at least as skilled as Shanks
In Mihawk’s case, he’s not only more skilled than Shanks, but is also the world’s strongest swordsman and not “world’s most skilled swordsman”, so he is stronger than Shanks in a sword duel. And considering Shanks is skilled enough to coat his sword with his haki then I don’t see how he’s not weaker.
 
True, skill =/= strength. Yassop is more skilled, Beckman is stronger, however;
Shanks for example would have trouble landing hits on Vista “in a sword duel” even if Shanks is stronger than him, simply due to the fact that Vista is at least as skilled as Shanks
In Mihawk’s case, he’s not only more skilled than Shanks, but is also the world’s strongest swordsman and not “world’s most skilled swordsman”, so he is stronger than Shanks in a sword duel. And considering Shanks is skilled enough to coat his sword with his haki then I don’t see how he’s not weaker.
Simply because Shanks has beed depicted as stronger than Mihawk.
We can discuss all day about semantics and what "strongest swordsman mean". But Shanks, with all his strength, has an higher bounty than Mihawk, and as such he is clearly depicted as more dangerous. So far, except gag like Buggy or Usopp, or Zoro vs Sanji dynamics in a small parts, bounties have been used to depict power level.
And given that we've never seen Shanks fight, and when Mihawk fought he struggled against a YC2 and was on par with Vista, we can only use what we have, which is bounties.
 
Simply because Shanks has beed depicted as stronger than Mihawk.
We can discuss all day about semantics and what "strongest swordsman mean". But Shanks, with all his strength, has an higher bounty than Mihawk, and as such he is clearly depicted as more dangerous. So far, except gag like Buggy or Usopp, or Zoro vs Sanji dynamics in a small parts, bounties have been used to depict power level.
And given that we've never seen Shanks fight, and when Mihawk fought he struggled against a YC2 and was on par with Vista, we can only use what we have, which is bounties.
Bounties resemble threat level mostly, but you can make a case for bounties within the same crew/ organization.
Shanks is an emperor, he rules over vast territories, has arguably the strongest crew under his command, former Roger’s pirates with connection to Rayleigh, destroyed a country in the past etc. Mihawk is simple commander who got a bounty higher than his captain by virtue of strength.

Shanks portrayal isn’t as great as you think, his crew however is a different case. His commanders overshadowed him in the bounty report e.g.
Here’s what the story tells us, Shanks & Mihawk used to have duels in the past, then Shanks sacrifices his arm for Luffy. Why is it deemed a sacrifice in the first place? Because he lost the potential to be stronger than Mihawk, Oda confirms this when he has Mihawk call him a “one arm has been”

Shanks has always been a plot tool not a power level, he is Luffy’s father figure but not his actual father nor is Luffy trying to surpass him in strength, but merely follow his footsteps to the top of the pirate world. He’ll serve a major role in the Blackbeard plotline, especially since the latter scarred him in the past and inspired his jolly roger.

Mihawk however is a benchmark of strength for Zoro, someone who’s comfortably a low top tier with his new haki.
 
Bounties resemble threat level mostly, but you can make a case for bounties within the same crew/ organization.
Shanks is an emperor, he rules over vast territories, has arguably the strongest crew under his command, former Roger’s pirates with connection to Rayleigh, destroyed a country in the past etc. Mihawk is simple commander who got a bounty higher than his captain by virtue of strength.

Shanks portrayal isn’t as great as you think, his crew however is a different case. His commanders overshadowed him in the bounty report e.g.
Here’s what the story tells us, Shanks & Mihawk used to have duels in the past, then Shanks sacrifices his arm for Luffy. Why is it deemed a sacrifice in the first place? Because he lost the potential to be stronger than Mihawk, Oda confirms this when he has Mihawk call him a “one arm has been”

Shanks has always been a plot tool not a power level, he is Luffy’s father figure but not his actual father nor is Luffy trying to surpass him in strength, but merely follow his footsteps to the top of the pirate world. He’ll serve a major role in the Blackbeard plotline, especially since the latter scarred him in the past and inspired his jolly roger.

Mihawk however is a benchmark of strength for Zoro, someone who’s comfortably a low top tier with his new haki.
Shanks is an emperor while Mihawk achieved, as a maximum achievement, YC1/2 or warlord, whetever you think is higher.

Shanks portrayal is exactly as great as I think and it's quite objective that the war in marineford stopped when he showed up. Akainu stopped, Kizaru stopped, Sengokue stopped. And on the way there he even stopped Kaido.
The same war where Mihawk struggles in cutting a YC2 and Vista jests with him.

So since Mihawk banters with him, this devalues him? Then how did Luffy win with all the one that underestimated him?

If Shanks is a plot tool, Mihawk is even less that that, his function being only relevant to Zoro and Zoro's path only.
 
Shanks is an emperor while Mihawk achieved, as a maximum achievement, YC1/2 or warlord, whetever you think is higher.

Shanks portrayal is exactly as great as I think and it's quite objective that the war in marineford stopped when he showed up. Akainu stopped, Kizaru stopped, Sengokue stopped. And on the way there he even stopped Kaido.
The same war where Mihawk struggles in cutting a YC2 and Vista jests with him.

So since Mihawk banters with him, this devalues him? Then how did Luffy win with all the one that underestimated him?

If Shanks is a plot tool, Mihawk is even less that that, his function being only relevant to Zoro and Zoro's path only.
Mihawk is one sword slash away from yonko, he literally said he’s not interested. Yonko isn’t that tough of an achievement lol
Stopping the war was political, the admirals have no right to start another war with a yonko, but they still did their best to attack the submarine while the RHPs were there. That’s a direct statement that they have no issues of fighting them if the RHPs initiated the offense.

Sengoku is the one who can make this decision, and even though VA Doberman was directly opposing Shanks terms to take the bodies of Wb and Ace, meaning a VA had the guts to fight them even after the war with Wb, Sengoku stopped for multiple reasons:
1. He respected Whitebeard.
Shanks: “even though he was my enemy, Wb commanded respect, Sengoku also thought thr same”
2. Sengoku: “Because it’s you Redhair, I’ll allow it”. Shanks: “you have my thanks”
Same phrases said in the Gorosei & Shanks interaction, he’s not your average pirate.
3. The island was in a poor state
Sengoku reiterated how they cannot allow the island to crumble, and it was already on the brink of destruction
4. They have to deal with the Impel Down catastrophe

So no one had a problem with fighting the crew, it’s simply a matter of priorities dictated by Sengoku and Sengoku alone. Admirals attacking the submarine while the RHPs stood by is more than enough to clear things up.

All this indicates his power as an emperor, which is also influenced by strength sure, he’s still one of the strongest pirates in the world, but with the other indications like losing his arm, Mihawk’s title and having a chunky bounty even though he’s not an emperor, past rivalry and Mihawk calling him a one arm has been all point to Mihawk being stronger.

Shanks character is more important to the story sure. Mihawk is mainly connected to Zoro’s plot, but he’s also a benchmark for Shanks lol
Let’s also tnot forget Zoro is the second main character.
 
Mihawk is one sword slash away from yonko, he literally said he’s not interested. Yonko isn’t that tough of an achievement lol
Stopping the war was political, the admirals have no right to start another war with a yonko, but they still did their best to attack the submarine while the RHPs were there. That’s a direct statement that they have no issues of fighting them if the RHPs initiated the offense.

Sengoku is the one who can make this decision, and even though VA Doberman was directly opposing Shanks terms to take the bodies of Wb and Ace, meaning a VA had the guts to fight them even after the war with Wb, Sengoku stopped for multiple reasons:
1. He respected Whitebeard.
Shanks: “even though he was my enemy, Wb commanded respect, Sengoku also thought thr same”
2. Sengoku: “Because it’s you Redhair, I’ll allow it”. Shanks: “you have my thanks”
Same phrases said in the Gorosei & Shanks interaction, he’s not your average pirate.
3. The island was in a poor state
Sengoku reiterated how they cannot allow the island to crumble, and it was already on the brink of destruction
4. They have to deal with the Impel Down catastrophe

So no one had a problem with fighting the crew, it’s simply a matter of priorities dictated by Sengoku and Sengoku alone. Admirals attacking the submarine while the RHPs stood by is more than enough to clear things up.

All this indicates his power as an emperor, which is also influenced by strength sure, he’s still one of the strongest pirates in the world, but with the other indications like losing his arm, Mihawk’s title and having a chunky bounty even though he’s not an emperor, past rivalry and Mihawk calling him a one arm has been all point to Mihawk being stronger.

Shanks character is more important to the story sure. Mihawk is mainly connected to Zoro’s plot, but he’s also a benchmark for Shanks lol
Let’s also tnot forget Zoro is the second main character.
Why are you ignoring the part where Mihawk cannot cut a YC2 and the part where Vista can hold him back, Vista being what YC4?
Mihawk cannot touch Jozu, fighting Vista takes all of Mihawak attention, Mihawk is unable to kill Luffy. These are fact, please address them.

Yonko is a though achievement, and you undervaluing that shows the bad faith of your argument, just as ignoring the only fact that I just mentioned again.
Sengoku's motivation are hidden from us, since we don't know why shanks can meet the Gorosei, so you're speculating, as most of your argument is.

Stopping the war is political, but only because the leverage that Shanks has is bigger than the leverage of a literal who that has done 0 in a war where he is going all out.
 
Yonko is a though achievement, and you undervaluing that shows the bad faith of your argument, just as ignoring the only fact that I just mentioned again.
Not really, for top tiers it was never something special.
Chapter 1058 literally showed that Crocodile or Mihawk were one poster away from the yonko seat, and now all they have to do is kill Buggy to claim it, but they simoply want him to stay as bait.

Why are you ignoring the part where Mihawk cannot cut a YC2 and the part where Vista can hold him back, Vista being what YC4?
You are also ignoring that:
-Shanks lost his arm to a Sea King
-Was scarred by base Blackbeard, it is so significant that he went through all the trouble to warn Whitebeard.
-Mihawk’s title and bounty
-Using terms such as YC4 when Zoro is already a low top tier, and we know that Mihawk is stronger than Zoro lol

Shanks knows how to coat his sword with CoC and still loses to the WSS in a “sword duel”. Does that make Shanks YC5 lol
 
Not really, for top tiers it was never something special.
Chapter 1058 literally showed that Crocodile or Mihawk were one poster away from the yonko seat, and now all they have to do is kill Buggy to claim it, but they simoply want him to stay as bait.


You are also ignoring that:
-Shanks lost his arm to a Sea King
-Was scarred by base Blackbeard, it is so significant that he went through all the trouble to warn Whitebeard.
-Mihawk’s title and bounty
-Using terms such as YC4 when Zoro is already a low top tier, and we know that Mihawk is stronger than Zoro lol

Shanks knows how to coat his sword with CoC and still loses to the WSS in a “sword duel”. Does that make Shanks YC5 lol
Except we never saw shanks fighting, nor lose?
We saw the strongest marines stop in their tracks in front of him tough.
All of this after he lost his arm, and you know better than me how much the powerscaling has changed since chapter 1, but you going after something happemed 1057 chapters ago shows how bad your argument is.
Yonko didn't even exist at that point.
We don't know how shanks was scarred as well.
 
Why are you ignoring the part where Mihawk cannot cut a YC2 and the part where Vista can hold him back, Vista being what YC4?
Mihawk cannot touch Jozu, fighting Vista takes all of Mihawak attention, Mihawk is unable to kill Luffy. These are fact, please address them.

Yonko is a though achievement, and you undervaluing that shows the bad faith of your argument, just as ignoring the only fact that I just mentioned again.
Sengoku's motivation are hidden from us, since we don't know why shanks can meet the Gorosei, so you're speculating, as most of your argument is.

Stopping the war is political, but only because the leverage that Shanks has is bigger than the leverage of a literal who that has done 0 in a war where he is going all out.
Wait its 2022 and People still using "mihawk was unable to kill luffy" as an argument.:whitepress:
 
He ran away to other forums because all the years and effort he spent trash talking "Posthawk" got flushed down the toilet by 1 singular chapter. Man got pressed and called the mods racist and biased, then went running with his tail between his legs.

Talking about Ndule. As for Kinyagi, probably posting porn or some shit.
Why be toxic over a comic?:suresure:

Its not that serious
 
Dragon screaming at Kuma like a desperate housewife basically shat on his mysterious cool collected leader operation. Just look at his face when his subordinate runs off on him. :suresure:

When hasn't he done that?
Dragon is clear of Mihawk when it comes baseless wank, the people that wank Dragon the Smoker stopper as some kind of God with the strongest haki and DF, the oneshot King are the biggest incels of this fanbase, only this guy can run from the BBP and the CP0, be always screaming and sweating bullets and still be in people's top 5. :watchout:

Shanks is an emperor while Mihawk achieved, as a maximum achievement, YC1/2 or warlord, whetever you think is higher.

Shanks portrayal is exactly as great as I think and it's quite objective that the war in marineford stopped when he showed up. Akainu stopped, Kizaru stopped, Sengokue stopped. And on the way there he even stopped Kaido.
The same war where Mihawk struggles in cutting a YC2 and Vista jests with him.

So since Mihawk banters with him, this devalues him? Then how did Luffy win with all the one that underestimated him?

If Shanks is a plot tool, Mihawk is even less that that, his function being only relevant to Zoro and Zoro's path only.

Shanks' portrayal is getting fucked by Higuma, me and a vet level character in a 1v1 fight, right? :watchout:
 
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Dragon screaming at Kuma like a desperate housewife basically shat on his mysterious cool collected leader operation. Just look at his face when his subordinate runs off on him. :suresure:

Why everything must be about hype and strength?
This is just a human being concerned about the well-being of another (former) one.
But I guess that someone to be called “cool” must be an empty Unemotional Hype pawn…
 
Why everything must be about hype and strength?
This is just a human being concerned about the well-being of another (former) one.
But I guess that someone to be called “cool” must be an empty Unemotional Hype pawn…
Shanks already does that compassionate shtick far far better than Dragon. Dragon’s own subordinate overshadows him even in canon.
 
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