Questions & Mysteries Is Enma’s haki drain the reason why Oden got one shot

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro says the true way of using Enma is to simply pour as much Haki into it as it requires… This applies both to him and Oden

So Oden must have been pouring out tremendous amounts of haki as well throughout his fight with Kaido… Was he tapped out and that’s why he got one shot so easily?

 

[Patryipe]

He got a headshot while distracted... Nothing wrong with going down to that.

 

[stairs-kun]

Zoro says the true way of using Enma is to simply pour as much Haki into it as it requires… This applies both to him and Oden

So Oden must have been pouring out tremendous amounts of haki as well throughout his fight with Kaido… Was he tapped out and that’s why he got one shot so easily?

Oden was never seen pouring out as much haki as Zoro

 

[Midnight Delight]

Shut up CoopoNitro7

 

[Formerly Seth]

Zoro says the true way of using Enma is to simply pour as much Haki into it as it requires… This applies both to him and Oden

So Oden must have been pouring out tremendous amounts of haki as well throughout his fight with Kaido… Was he tapped out and that’s why he got one shot so easily?

It was a free shot for Kaido. Oden literally unfocused ( LITERALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN FUCKING HAKI USAGE ) and dropped his guard.

But it is good. Proves those fucks weren't top tiers 20 years ago.

 

[Kiiro]

No, Oden could control Enma with no problem.

There is a difference between Zoro who control Enma and when he didnt. When he didnt, the amount of Haki that he used on his swords were supposed to be equal, but enma took more and that is the reason it always had more.

Now Zoro has control and all the 3 swords has the same amount of haki by his election.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He got a headshot while distracted... Nothing wrong with going down to that.

Remember Luffy vs Doflamingo… Doffy couldn’t read Luffy’s G4 movements and yet he still managed to Armament haki his face from Luffy’s punches

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No, Oden could control Enma with no problem.

There is a difference between Zoro who control Enma and when he didnt. When he didnt, the amount of Haki that he used on his swords were supposed to be equal, but enma took more and that is the reason it always had more.

Now Zoro has control and all the 3 swords has the same amount of haki by his election.

@Kiiro
Yes, Zoro is using the same amount of haki… BUT ITS STILL THE AMOUNT ENMA WANTS

Get it? Enma goes berserk anytime it doesn’t get that ridiculous amount of haki it’s always trying to suck out… Zoro was resisting the drain before and that didn’t work… Now he’s letting it out continuously and Enma is no longer bothering him


Zoro said Oden was using Enma with no problem coz he matched up to the Haki drain that Enma ALWAYS has

 

[Finalbeta]

I think his durability was simply not that massive, I can see Current Zoro's or even rooftop Zoro's standing better overall considering what kinds of injuries he was rolled with.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Oden had 0 trouble with Enma if wish to debate please get us some panels where we see Oden being affected by it.

Kaido hit a distracted Oden so it's understandable the result.

When strong characters fight I always remember Kizaru words ....

 

[Yakyu]

Enma has nothing to do with this.
It was not that easy at all, the fight was much longer than expected as stated in narration boxes in chapter 970, so at the very least both sides took solid damage off screen. The pages we see are the climax with Oden about to behead Kaido who fell on the ground after TT and when he saw the fake Momonosuke he freaked out which means no way to calm down and use CoO to try protecting himself.
A second of distraction can decide a whole battle, we've seen this back in Marineford.

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

It was not.
Oden was a monster that fought against the odds and almost beat kaido and if the flashback was now we would see oden beating hybrid kaido.imo.
He let his guard down because his son was in danger.
It's a thing in one piece, see WB pirates

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Zoro said that Oden was using Enma just fine despite how much haki it absorbed. Kaido spanked Oden the moment he got distracted. That only demonstrates Kaido's strength feat.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro said that Oden was using Enma just fine despite how much haki it absorbed. Kaido spanked Oden the moment he got distracted. That only demonstrates Kaido's strength feat.

You think he got better mastery than Zoro? If so imagine how powerful a Zoro with full mastery could be assuming that didn't recently occur 🤔

 

[Herrera95]

Oden never showed any issues about Enma.

I don't know if Oden was got off guard or simply let himself get hit since they had Momonosuke. But nothing about Enma. And maybe his other sword may have some bullshit like that too.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oden is the living proof how power level doesn't totally reflect to level of mastery, it takes practice and this was shown with Zoro since the beginning :cheers:

 

[Kiiro]

Remember Luffy vs Doflamingo… Doffy couldn’t read Luffy’s G4 movements and yet he still managed to Armament haki his face from Luffy’s punches

Post automatically merged: Dec 19, 2021

@Kiiro
Yes, Zoro is using the same amount of haki… BUT ITS STILL THE AMOUNT ENMA WANTS

Get it? Enma goes berserk anytime it doesn’t get that ridiculous amount of haki it’s always trying to suck out… Zoro was resisting the drain before and that didn’t work… Now he’s letting it out continuously and Enma is no longer bothering him


Zoro said Oden was using Enma with no problem coz he matched up to the Haki drain that Enma ALWAYS has

Zoro never said that Oden could use Enma with no problem, he questioned it. And then he later said "No, that isnt it"

Meaning that Enma didnt want a normal user, he wanted a conquer user. Once Zoro accepted his realself, Enma was at full control.

 

[mugiwalaw]

its indeed suckin much of haki because its the nature of Enma, but he mostly down because he let his guard down not because the draining things.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oden was an AP monster but when it comes to durability he never impressed me extensively

He remains a huge legend nonetheless

 

[mugiwalaw]

You think he got better mastery than Zoro? If so imagine how powerful a Zoro with full mastery could be assuming that didn't recently occur 🤔

he is bro and thats a fact stated by so many people that knows Oden. Enma yet to recognize Zoro as its master and of course Zoro will surprass Oden.

 

[BleakAsh]

Why even think of considering such a thing when zoro insinuates that and it actually is the casr that Oden was using enma and meeting its standards unlike zoli seamlessly and with no difficulty.

the notion itself is redundant