Chapter Discussion Is Enma still taxing Zoro?

Mackiss

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We all know Zoro needs enma to enter king of hell mode, which is basically his CoC mode, but at cost of lots of haki.

If that's still tha case, then Zoro needs to hurry up and beat Lucci asap as he already seems a bit tired.



Is the KoH mode time limit still a problem? Zoro is still risking his life by using this? That mode should be meant for desperate measures, not for a supposedly casual fight.
 
Artem

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Mackiss said:


We all know Zoro needs enma to enter king of hell mode, which is basically his CoC mode, but at cost of lots of haki.

If that's still tha case, then Zoro needs to hurry up and beat Lucci asap as he already seems a bit tired.



Is the KoH mode time limit still a problem? Zoro is still risking his life by using this? That mode should be meant for desperate measures, not for a supposedly casual fight.
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Zoro doesn't need enma after chapter 1033. Now Zoro is doing it on his own. Cry:cheers:
 
Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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Zoro probably will need at least this arc and perhaps one more before mastering it without to hard of a drain. Even after Mr 1 he had to train to cut steel at will. Until Pica he was some what unsure of his CoA as seen by the relief on his face. Also took time with taming Sandai Kitetsu in Whiskey Peak and Shisui in Thriller Bark.
 
nik87

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Cozy Sofa said:
Zoro probably will need at least this arc and perhaps one more before mastering it without to hard of a drain. Even after Mr 1 he had to train to cut steel at will. Until Pica he was some what unsure of his CoA as seen by the relief on his face. Also took time with taming Sandai Kitetsu in Whiskey Peak and Shisui in Thriller Bark.
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There is no such thing.
Haki will never become an infinite resource.
G4 will never be unlimited.
KOH will never be unlimited.
 
Cozy Sofa

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nik87 said:
There is no such thing.
Haki will never become an infinite resource.
G4 will never be unlimited.
KOH will never be unlimited.
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Say that to Big Mom and Kaido. Or even Katakuri. Those three have displayed great haki endurance despite having it activated for long periods of time.
 
Mackiss

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nik87 said:
There is no such thing.
Haki will never become an infinite resource.
G4 will never be unlimited.
KOH will never be unlimited.
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It's not about being unlimited

G4 is luffy using haki

KOH is enma flowing Zoro's haki at the risk of killing him, it's a different thing.
 
nik87

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Cozy Sofa said:
Say that to Big Mom and Kaido. Or even Katakuri. Those three have displayed great haki endurance despite having it activated for long periods of time.
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None of them have infinite haki.
That is a fact that will never change.


Mackiss said:
It's not about being unlimited

G4 is luffy using haki

KOH is enma flowing Zoro's haki at the risk of killing him, it's a different thing.
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And yet, Luffy is at far greater risk because he ran out several times of it and became a dead weight while Zoro never did.
 
Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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nik87 said:
None of them have infinite haki.
That is a fact that will never change.



And yet, Luffy is at far greater risk because he ran out several times of it and became a dead weight while Zoro never did.
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Who said anything about infinite? There are probably two things you can do.

A) You can make your haki stamina pool bigger, same as jogging and getting better endurance. This might be the Big Mom and Kaido route.

B) The other way is to learn how to spill as little haki as possible through expert use and through automatisms that means you don't even have to think about using haki, it just happens. This is probably what Katakuri is doing and same as Crocodiles DF usage where he has automatisms.

Whatever route Luffy or Zoro chose they sure as hell won't have these drawbacks in the future. That doesn't mean infinite haki but they most likely won't have strict time limits.
 
nik87

nik87

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Cozy Sofa said:
Who said anything about infinite? There are probably two things you can do.

A) You can make your haki stamina pool bigger, same as jogging and getting better endurance. This might be the Big Mom and Kaido route.

B) The other way is to learn how to spill as little haki as possible through expert use and through automatisms that means you don't even have to think about using haki, it just happens. This is probably what Katakuri is doing and same as Crocodiles DF usage where he has automatisms.

Whatever route Luffy or Zoro chose they sure as hell won't have these drawbacks in the future. That doesn't mean infinite haki but they most likely won't have strict time limits.
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DR Luffy lasts 20 mins with G4.
WCI Luffy lasts 20 mins with G4.
Wano Luffy lasts 20 mins with G4.
And there are countless haki improvements between those.
Where is the supposed improvement?

Dont bring Katakuri into COA and CoC because COO is a different thing.
It isnt coating, it is simply focus.
 
CbShadow

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Enma haki drain is no longer a problem. Zoro didn't huff from using enma. He didn't say anything about enma. It came from all the running around and moving while clashing with Lucci.

Luffy ran out energy and was tired just running around the laboratory.

People shouldn't make a big deal about it. It just means there's been a lot of moving around and clashing.
 
nik87

nik87

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CbShadow said:
Enma haki drain is no longer a problem. Zoro didn't huff from using enma. He didn't say anything about enma. It came from all the running around and moving while clashing with Lucci.

Luffy ran out energy and was tired just running around the laboratory.

People shouldn't make a big deal about it. It just means there's been a lot of moving around and clashing.
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People forget that they were fighting the whole day against Seraphim and Cp0...
 
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