Powers & Abilities Is it safe to say the admirals don't have CoC?
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I can, but is your personal headcanon that there is difference between them, idem the fact that paramecia users like fujitora have "limits" with the haki + dff. Oda never stated that. Do u know the difference between a headcanon and something canon in the manga?
However, if u find reasonable that the only pirate in the history of the manga who could fight 1vs1 with roger had problem with acoc, who is literally the most important haki for top tiers... well, if i were you, i did find it very strange, at least
However, if u find reasonable that the only pirate in the history of the manga who could fight 1vs1 with roger had problem with acoc, who is literally the most important haki for top tiers... well, if i were you, i did find it very strange, at least
Correct.
The difference between Dai Funka and Bairang Gun is that Dai Funka is a produced construct that Akainu discards and doesn't bother if someone cuts it into pieces while Bairang Gun is Luffy's actual body instead of a produced construct that he can discard and allow to be cut into pieces...
I am starting to lean towards the idea that Logia's show-off will turn into giant produced constructs, elemental Susanoos, so to say...
At least that's where the current meta seems to be going towards - giant forms for everyone...
Well, perhaps we get a logia with aCoC but combining both powers? I seriously doubt it.
The difference between Dai Funka and Bairang Gun is that Dai Funka is a produced construct that Akainu discards and doesn't bother if someone cuts it into pieces while Bairang Gun is Luffy's actual body instead of a produced construct that he can discard and allow to be cut into pieces...
I am starting to lean towards the idea that Logia's show-off will turn into giant produced constructs, elemental Susanoos, so to say...
At least that's where the current meta seems to be going towards - giant forms for everyone...
Dragon, with his logia, will make u change your opinion
Well, if he will do something before the end of the manga
Well, if he will do something before the end of the manga
Basic haki
Basic haki
I'm talking about advanced haki here: can u show me when bigmom used advanced haki against lidd and law?
She was a fucking yonko, she fought for her life and her trhone against them, she was almost equal to kaido and shanks, high top haki user, and she barely remembered that she had advanced haki, she only used it against a tobi roppo lmao
Peak writing
Do u really think that bigmom could be at the same level of kaido and others yonko without advanced king haki during the fight?
Oda made clear that if u are at the top u can't not have a super powerful haki
So, u can think what u want, it doesn't matter: every top tiers who have advanced haki can use it regardless their fighting style
However, it's true that there are "levels" of haki, bigmom is not shanks, fujitora (if he has it) is not mihawk, wb isn't roger ecc ecc but this doesn't mean that they don't have it or that they can't spam it for hours or days
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The dad of the protagonist and son of the man who was the embodiment of haki in the old era... i can't imagine dragon without coating in his attacks
However, the "giant susanoo" is not a bad idea, if not their awakening, maybe their strongest moves will be like that, like kaido did at the end
Oda recently loves giants attacks
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Ok, I undestand the concept, but imho there are too many practical issues.
Not being able to use haki in on of the Logia's main features is very debilitating.
Even more if we consider that 3 of the more important characters of the manga have Logias and they have yet to fight for real: Teach, Akainu and Dragon.
Not being able to use haki in on of the Logia's main features is very debilitating.
Even more if we consider that 3 of the more important characters of the manga have Logias and they have yet to fight for real: Teach, Akainu and Dragon.
I don't think they are affected by it at all.
Magma coated into aCoC or Magma alone will yield the same result = high chance for death if it lands cleanly.
These elements are highly lethal or troublesome due to their own nature, they don't need a buff from aCoC...
The only ones who could use some buffing are smoke and swamp but they got their own tricks to make up for lack of lethality.
Blackbeard has Gura to make up for lack of aCoC. Dragon, if wind logia, doesn't need aCoC buffing as winds are lethal...
Magma coated into aCoC or Magma alone will yield the same result = high chance for death if it lands cleanly.
These elements are highly lethal or troublesome due to their own nature, they don't need a buff from aCoC...
The only ones who could use some buffing are smoke and swamp but they got their own tricks to make up for lack of lethality.
Blackbeard has Gura to make up for lack of aCoC. Dragon, if wind logia, doesn't need aCoC buffing as winds are lethal...
The Gorosei are Imu’s dogs and most have shown it.
Regardless of how you cut it, Oda’s not going to be consistent with it because of all the complications.
He’s averse to Marines showing it because even with Garp he didn’t have any fodder getting knocked out by it. Sengoku still only has a databook to go by.
Combining logias, awakenings and CoC may be too much. He may arbitrarily give it to just the Fleet Admirals for the sake of distinction even if it makes no sense, or it may just be Fuji alone for not having a logia.
Either way, it should be an all or none scenario…so likely it will settle on some mess inbetween.
Regardless of how you cut it, Oda’s not going to be consistent with it because of all the complications.
He’s averse to Marines showing it because even with Garp he didn’t have any fodder getting knocked out by it. Sengoku still only has a databook to go by.
Combining logias, awakenings and CoC may be too much. He may arbitrarily give it to just the Fleet Admirals for the sake of distinction even if it makes no sense, or it may just be Fuji alone for not having a logia.
Either way, it should be an all or none scenario…so likely it will settle on some mess inbetween.
