Speculations Is Jinbei lying?

#23
50/50, at the end of the day sun pirates are fishmen, Meme crew can't swim to reach them.
50/50
Is when Jinbe is not shown.. and when no news about his crew out

When there is a panel of Jinbe showing up... then his crew surviving also is 60/40

When Jinbe himself says they surived with his own tongue
It becomes at least
80-90 percent truth

How can people make it 50/50 by counting on fans speculation OVER what the characters are saying by their own mouth!
This is beyond me Lol
 
#24
I hope he is and when Jinbe sees Big Mom we get a more flushed out explanation.

Or it's just Oda trying to wrap up plot lines...which would be anticlimactic to me.
 
#25
Jinbe doesn't seem the type to just bold-face lie to his friends. I think his crew did evade Big Mom, but sustained injuries like Jinbe claimed they did. Then they had a farewell, and Jinbe joined up with Luffy. It really doesn't need a in-depth explanation, and I doubt Oda will give us one.
 
M

MD Zolo

#26
If we want to focus on any part of what Jinbei said, then he thing to focus on would be the one where Jinbei says that Sun pirates gave him a BIG send-off.

Technically, Nami, Sanji and Franky got a big send-off too.

But the send-off could be for other reasons.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#27
To be fair, Jinbe never said that they got away safely unharmed... He mentioned that there are injured people...

The least we can think of is that, most of the notable members like Aladdin and Praline are safe... But details will most likely be tackled soon...

Why is it so difficult to accept that fishmen can easily escape in while in water being surrounded by DF users... Even Aladdin mentioned that Jinbe seems to be underestimating them, and then there's this "Rage Mode" by the fishmen (as seen from Arlong)...

Even Pre-TS Straw Hats and allies, and even the former CP9, managed to escape Enies Lobby Buster Call unharmed... Even Higuma managed to escape from the RHP...
Because its completey undermines WCI's ending and makes it moot.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#28
I'll consider it an open plausibility. After all, something should go down once Linlin confronts the crew. Things ended rather ominously last we saw Jinbe and the others on Totland. Linlin used the phrase "Life or Death" in that moment. Meaning at best she wanted to take everyone's life span there, and at worst slaughter all of them.

It depends on how dark Oda wants to take it. But considering he's adverse to killing characters unless it has a greater purpose, I'll say no to any named character having died.
 
#29
There's a reason to delay Jinbe... I read a possible explanation somewhere months ago that Jinbe would make the Sanji Retrieval Team land Wano safe and a chain of relevant events that happened won't take place if Luffy and Tama won't meet...

About WCI ending useless if everyone's unharmed, I guess many of those people who doesn't accept the fact that they're safe just wants Jinbe injured or nerfed... But do note that we can't call the escape a "success" if the SPs and Germas failed to escape, since Luffy doesn't leave anyone behind...
 
#30
There's a reason to delay Jinbe... I read a possible explanation somewhere months ago that Jinbe would make the Sanji Retrieval Team land Wano safe and a chain of relevant events that happened won't take place if Luffy and Tama won't meet...

About WCI ending useless if everyone's unharmed, I guess many of those people who doesn't accept the fact that they're safe just wants Jinbe injured or nerfed... But do note that we can't call the escape a "success" if the SPs and Germas failed to escape, since Luffy doesn't leave anyone behind...
Jinbe explains why he was delayed the first page of this chapter
 
#36
I'm not really buying into the lie nor do i have a problem with Jinbei escaping unscathed, but i'm thinking it's a possibility that he's hiding the truth because he's man of duty and responsibility. It would be out of character for Jinbei to party with his fellow fishmen when he knows the Strawhats intend to take down Kaido and the beast pirates and they need him for the war. He should also be aware of Big Mom and Kaido's alliance.
 
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