Powers & Abilities Is Law and the Ope Ope no Mi fair game in the WSS competition?

That is not even impressive as a swordsman. He is just blocking with the strongest thing available with him. Just think about it now, what would happen if he just used his DF? it would be much easier(probably couldn't use), he could dodge it much easily and better too. Do you consider this swordsmanship of something which we would see at Mihawks level? In the end he uses his DF to achieve everything(the slashes too).
How is that not impressive lmao law is blocking doffy s attacks with his sword if that s not impressive swordsmanship then wtf :milaugh:
He blocked doffy s attacks like fuji the swordsman blocked doffy s kick :cheers:
 
I'm on the fence here,i don't really know if Wss concerns law too.
There are arguments for and some against but at the end it still ambiguous to me.
If Law really can be counted swordsman, shouldn't have Zoro commented on it or shown some interest in Law's style or something? Or even initiate a rivalry with law?

I'm confused.
 
"The World Strongest Swordsman is the strongest with the sword which falls under specific skills with the sword"

again, it is you whos making up scenario, You're making exception is nothing but headcanon, it's like me saying
"The Worlds Strongest Man is the strongest Man with the strength which falls under specific skills with the strength"

Those two statement is relative, me making up scenarios like that is just like you making up scenarios like that

"if you paid attention you'd noticed that the characters that actually cared about the World Strongest Man are characters that strictly uses his strength alone and nothing else (without a sword nor a df)"

Then again, i could say the same

"if you paid attention you'd noticed that the characters that actually cared about the World Strongest Swordsmen are characters that strictly uses the Sword and nothing else"

every single argument you've been using is counterintuitive, you're just being too blinded by your favouritism upon Law

Try better next time

I think that problem here is that you think The World Strongest man is the same thing as The World Strongest Swordsman, its not.

Your understanding of what the World Strongest Man is very off. The world Strongest Man in One Piece is about the Strongest Human Being ( its not strictly talking about physical strenght but the human being that is the most powerful in the world)
 
I think that problem here is that you think The World Strongest man is the same thing as The World Strongest Swordsman, its not.

Your understanding of what the World Strongest Man is very off.
""The World Strongest Swordsman is the strongest with the sword which falls under specific skills with the sword"

again, it is you whos making up scenario, You're making exception is nothing but headcanon, it's like me saying
"The Worlds Strongest Man is the strongest Man with the strength which falls under specific skills with the strength""

So no refutation? concession accepted. You're using nothing but headcanons

try better next time
 
""The World Strongest Swordsman is the strongest with the sword which falls under specific skills with the sword"

again, it is you whos making up scenario, You're making exception is nothing but headcanon, it's like me saying
"The Worlds Strongest Man is the strongest Man with the strength which falls under specific skills with the strength""

So no refutation? concession accepted. You're using nothing but headcanons

try better next time
As I said its not an headcannon because of how its shown in the manga. If devil fruit users with the sword cared about the title and Oda showed that then its fine. Currently only pure swordsman actually try to be the best with the sword.

Strongest Man covers a board term, Strongest Swordsmen covers Swordsmen with the main focus on their sword skills with no additons (devil fruit etc)

Titles hold a similar value however. Both are strictly power levels related. One refers to all men, the other to all swordsmen.
I agree they are both power level related however there are still specifics which even you yourself pointed out.

Not all men consider themselves as swordsmen and the only characters that truly do are pure swordsmen like Zoro, Mihawk and some others whom has no additional power which is why its a title with a smaller scope.
 
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Men includes swordsmen, that easy

But this is off topic
yea because everything he said is counterintuitive, he couldnt even refute my point, all he's been saying is "you cant understand bla bla bla", such argument is a thing even a 9 year old kid could do, nothing special. He's the one who couldnt comprehend the difference between Most Skilled and Strongest
 
As I said its not an headcannon because of how its shown in the manga. If devil fruit users with the sword cared about the title and Oda showed that then its fine. Currently only pure swordsman actually try to be the best with the sword.
So far only Zoro and Mihawk that has been shown has interest in WSS, so zoro's rival is only Mihawk?

Strongest Man covers a board term, Strongest Swordsmen covers Swordsmen with the main focus on their sword skills with no additons (devil fruit etc)
again it is your HEADCANON by making exception, seriously your comprehensive skill is so low, WSS is WORLDS STRONGEST SWORDSMAN, not WORLDS STRONGEST PURE SWORDSMAN

learn the difference kiddo

try better next time
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You're wrong from the start if you assume that WSS>WSM
never said such thing
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
It's not even about who considers themselves as a swordsman or not, but whether or not one is, is the only thing that accounts.

And it's obvious how not all men are swordsmen, however the strongest swordsman can *eventually* stand as the strongest man too if potent enough.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
That's the case in Juan Piece
Not really as long as the strongest swordsman is also entitled as strongest man.

Furthermore, when any author refers to the strongest swordsman, usually the general power level of the individuals is implied, and not just simply the style which is swordsmanship, so independently from any other styles a swordsman or many swordsmen may or not possess, the strongest swordsman is meant to be the most potent out of all swordsmen alive in existence, without fussing on other styles, which are not relevant to the subject matter in that the whole power level of the individuals is what's taken into account.

In other words even if Shanks had better CoC or was a better gunslinger than Mihawk, that would still make Shanks weaker than Mihawk due not being the strongest swordsman.
 
So far only Zoro and Mihawk that has been shown has interest in WSS, so zoro's rival is only Mihawk?
Odd questions, I said mutiple times that theres other characters that strictly use their swords.

again it is your HEADCANON by making exception, seriously your comprehensive skill is so low, WSS is WORLDS STRONGEST SWORDSMAN, not WORLDS STRONGEST PURE SWORDSMAN

learn the difference kiddo

try better next time
Its not an exception, you believe it is because I use the world "Pure" when it is infact fine to use, reason being is that only characters that focuses on their Sword skills truly yearns to be the World Strongest Swordsman.

Big Mom doesn't care about it, Law doesn't care about, do you consider Kizaru as a Swordsman too? well he doesn't seem to care about it.

You shouln't be getting this angry over a simple word, even if it wasn't directly used in the manga it make sense and you're unable to directly refute it because thats how its implied in the story.
 
Not really as long as the strongest swordsman is also entitled as strongest man.

Furthermore, when any author refers to the strongest swordsman, usually the general power level of the individuals is implied, and not just simply the style which is swordsmanship, so independently from any other styles a swordsman or many swordsmen may or not possess, the strongest swordsman is meant to be the most potent out of all swordsmen alive in existence, without fussing on other styles, which are not relevant to the subject matter in that the whole power level of the individuals is what's taken into account.

In other words even if Shanks had better CoC or was a better gunslinger than Mihawk, that would still make Shanks weaker than Mihawk due not being the strongest swordsman.
Wrong. The title puts Mihawk above Shanks in swordsmanship but CoC, marksmanship and so on are all added abilities that can put Shanks over Mihawk (who still is more skilled with the sword, but that's not everything)
 
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