Powers & Abilities Is Law and the Ope Ope no Mi fair game in the WSS competition?
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No, same cannot be said about Cabaji, because his swordsmanship and other tricks balance each other out. While Law's ability is vastly superior to his swordsmanship outside of his room. Vastly.
No one denied he is a swordsman. Can you stop using that argument for the 100th time? Arguing against strawmans.
Yet he s still a swordsman just like law 
What? now you're saying Law couldnt cut off Doffy because Doffy prevented him from doing so? So you agree that Sword is really important for Law?
"LaW CaN sTilL pErFOrM hIs cUttiNg aBiLlItY WitHoUt a SwOrd"
i remember you said that, if Doffy stalled/blocked Law's sword it shouldnt be a problem if law could still perform his ability without a sword
And so if Law didnt perform his cutting ability immediately it means Law underestimated Doffy? i dont remember Law having such personality, or you officially changed Law's personality?
Lol
"LaW CaN sTilL pErFOrM hIs cUttiNg aBiLlItY WitHoUt a SwOrd"
i remember you said that, if Doffy stalled/blocked Law's sword it shouldnt be a problem if law could still perform his ability without a sword
And so if Law didnt perform his cutting ability immediately it means Law underestimated Doffy? i dont remember Law having such personality, or you officially changed Law's personality?
Lol
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"A swordsman is someone who's combat style revolves around the use of a sword or multiple swords. To be defined a swordsman the sword has to be your focal point when in action, having a DF doesn't kick you out from the swordsman title as long as your DF has a secondary function (like Shiryu for example), this is not Law's case tho cause his primary power comes from the use of his DF and the sword is only a tool to expand the DF usage and for defence in CQC (since Law lacks physical combat skills)"
1. So you think Law could still perform without his df?
2. and what on hell has his sword to do in expanding his df usage? with his bare hand he could perform way easier because he wouldnt need to hold a 5 kg sword
3. If sword is for defence in CQC, a shield fits more so Law should get a shield instead
"A swordsman is someone who's combat style revolves around the use of a sword or multiple swords. To be defined a swordsman the sword has to be your focal point when in action, having a DF doesn't kick you out from the swordsman title as long as your DF has a secondary function (like Shiryu for example), this is not Law's case tho cause his primary power comes from the use of his DF and the sword is only a tool to expand the DF usage and for defence in CQC (since Law lacks physical combat skills)"
1. So you think Law could still perform without his df?
2. and what on hell has his sword to do in expanding his df usage? with his bare hand he could perform way easier because he wouldnt need to hold a 5 kg sword
3. If sword is for defence in CQC, a shield fits more so Law should get a shield instead
I love the strawmans used here. I clearly said Law is a swordsman but asked if it would be fair game if a medicore swordsman (which Law is outside of his room) would be massively powered up by a DF which is separate from his swordsmanship.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
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Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
I love the strawmans used here. I clearly said Law is a swordsman but asked if it would be fair game if a medicore swordsman (which Law is outside of his room) would be massively powered up by a DF which is separate from his swordsmanship.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Post automatically merged:
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
I love the strawmans used here. I clearly said Law is a swordsman but asked if it would be fair game if a medicore swordsman (which Law is outside of his room) would be massively powered up by a DF which is separate from his swordsmanship.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Post automatically merged:
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
I love the strawmans used here. I clearly said Law is a swordsman but asked if it would be fair game if a medicore swordsman (which Law is outside of his room) would be massively powered up by a DF which is separate from his swordsmanship.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
People answer: "Law is still a swordsman"
Post automatically merged:
Because Law fights at his beast with a weapon, just like 99% of the OP world. Pick up a 5kg sword and you will be stronger than with your bare hands. Apart from the fact that OP characters are way stronger than the usual real life human. There is no reason for Law to dismiss his sword, he can use it in accordance to his DF. But that doesn't change the fact that his DF makes up the vast amount of his power.
What you all gonna say next? that Zoro is not a swordsman because using 3 blades is just not common enough? the octopus guy is not a swordman because he has more arms than a human?
Excuse me what do you mean by Laws ability is vastly superior to his swordsmanship?
like there’s something big Law does with his fruit that doesn’t involve his swordsmanship?
the only one I know is Shambles.
but guess what, Cabaji does that too. He has a unicycle.
shambles affects Laws mobility VASTLY in combat and Cabaji’s unicycle affects his mobility VASTLY in combat as well
That’s two abilities that don’t directly involve swordsmanship yet affect combat are still based on the general gimmick of both characters
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is Cabaji not a swordsman just because he augments his mobility with a unicycle in combat same way Law augments his mobility?
Like I said dude, there’s a bunch of random semantics here. You post is about whether Law should be counted as a swordsman even though he has a broken fruit because this somehow affects the concept of WSS, but then you are not acknowledging that NONE OF THAT MATTERS. Law cannot defeat Mihawk so what does it matter he has that fruit?
is it because of Zoro? So what if Zoro is stronger than Law despite Law having broken abilities?
if Oda really really really wanted to, Law would be by far the strongest person in this story. But he’s not. Law can’t beat mihawk and won’t be able to beat EoS Zoro because plot said so.
plot decided that Doffy could beat Law and he did. I can tell you 100 ways Law should’ve beaten Doffy WITHOUT even using the personality switch, but nope, the story says Doffy > Law so who cares, Doffy wins. Law is a swordsman and not WSS and will never be WSS so Mihawk and EoS Zoro > Law because plot said so
like there’s something big Law does with his fruit that doesn’t involve his swordsmanship?
the only one I know is Shambles.
but guess what, Cabaji does that too. He has a unicycle.
shambles affects Laws mobility VASTLY in combat and Cabaji’s unicycle affects his mobility VASTLY in combat as well
That’s two abilities that don’t directly involve swordsmanship yet affect combat are still based on the general gimmick of both characters
done
is Cabaji not a swordsman just because he augments his mobility with a unicycle in combat same way Law augments his mobility?
Like I said dude, there’s a bunch of random semantics here. You post is about whether Law should be counted as a swordsman even though he has a broken fruit because this somehow affects the concept of WSS, but then you are not acknowledging that NONE OF THAT MATTERS. Law cannot defeat Mihawk so what does it matter he has that fruit?
is it because of Zoro? So what if Zoro is stronger than Law despite Law having broken abilities?
if Oda really really really wanted to, Law would be by far the strongest person in this story. But he’s not. Law can’t beat mihawk and won’t be able to beat EoS Zoro because plot said so.
plot decided that Doffy could beat Law and he did. I can tell you 100 ways Law should’ve beaten Doffy WITHOUT even using the personality switch, but nope, the story says Doffy > Law so who cares, Doffy wins. Law is a swordsman and not WSS and will never be WSS so Mihawk and EoS Zoro > Law because plot said so