Be it Nika or plot power (way stronger) Luffy is immortal for real. Maybe Oda will gift us an EoS death, a disease like for Roger, Luffy afterall should be supposed to have reduced lifespan from using gears (at least in the past) and when he was saved from poison in Impel down but at this point everything and its opposite can happen.
Questions & Mysteries Is Luffy Immortal?
- Thread starter Tai long
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It seems to be the case indeed, i'm not saying it's gonna happen, but Oda is using Zoro to show us a Present Example of how those Legendary DFs were created or at least how they function. Whatever the Method is to create DFs, i'm sure it uses Souls of Deceased People (Who meet certain requirements)
So all DF Spirits in my opinion pass through Afterlife or a Place that contains Souls & that's where they get Recycled or stay Immortal
(It's like whoever created DFs, did it by creating his own Man-Made & Man-Controlled Afterlife instead of the Natural One)
No one returns from the Natural One just like in Real Life, but in the Man-Made One, it allows Rebirth & basically grants DF Spirits Immortality, so the real question, what determines whether someone goes to Real Afterlife or Fake One? Obviously some kind of Deal or particular Death.
However, we know that when a DF User dies, their Soul & Devil of the Fruit are separated as the first remains Dead while the second is transferred to a New Fruit, but apparently that doesn't seem to be the case with Mythical Zoans, they seem to stay connected with Souls of Users which allows Rebirth (Meaning that Mythical Beings take the Souls of their Users to the Man-Made Afterlife to Buff it & then return), this allows for "Awakening" as the Soul is now Stronger & able to change it's Body beyond it's Original Limits (Exactly like Brook explained how his Body works during Fishmen Island Arc, saying that his Soul became much Stronger & makes his Body function beyond what Bones are capable of)
The Idea is pretty clear, for The Body to surpass it's Limits, The Soul must be "Enhanced"
And apparently the Man-Made Afterlife is the Source of such "Enhancement" & Only Mythical Zoans + Brook's DF allow you to go there
So how did Zoro go there? This means that his Soul is also attached to something that would allow him entry into that Afterlife & return
It must be something "Unique" that happened to him before
Let me ask you, didn't Luffy eat his Nika DF after he met Shanks? So wouldn't it make sense that Zoro gained his Unique Treat after meeting Mihawk? What happened during their Meeting? Mihawk used "Yoru" to give him a Huge Chest Scar!
And he gave it to him right after he was surprised about something during Zoro's Final Attack
And then his Words were: "Know Yourself, Know The World"!
In my opinion, the idea is pretty clear:
Just like Shanks saw Roger in Luffy after hearing his Secret Dream
I believe Mihawk saw "Someone" in Zoro after seeing his Final Attack (Meaning that Mihawk met a Santoryu User before)
Luffy ended up eating Nika DF during his time with Shanks (Which was never eaten for Hundreds of Years)
Zoro received something from Mihawk (Which he never gave to anyone for Hundreds of Years, as i said in another Thread, Mihawk is Ancient)
Nika DF as i explained above is a Mythical Zoan, so it allows Luffy to get his Soul "Enhanced" once he Dies
Zoro on the other hand has a Powerful Spirit, but he lacked a way to access that Man-Made Afterlife & get his Soul "Enhanced" too
That's what Mihawk did for Zoro, he put a Spirit inside him (Not Asura, that's Zoro's), which would claim his Soul once he dies & takes it to the Man-Made Afterlife, so that his Soul gets "Enhanced" too & then Revived
So The Shinigami we saw during Onigashima Arc was actually put by Mihawk inside Zoro using "Yoru" (Which means Night btw)
And it's sole purpose was to "Awaken" Zoro's Full Potential once he Dies (It's like Mihawk's way of Guaranteeing Zoro survives long enough to reach his Max Power). This is a very nice Parallel as both Shanks & Mihawk were waiting for Luffy & Zoro to reach their Level & didn't make a move until Wano Arc ended & as the Duo they both Dream of Surpassing, it makes perfect sense that just like Shanks carried Luffy's DF, Mihawk vs Zoro also left something for Zoro
As to where does Asura come from? Just like i mentioned above, Mihawk saw "Someone" in Zoro just like Shanks saw Roger in Luffy.
That Someone was a Three-Sword Style User & could possibly be his Master or Father-Figure just like what Roger was for Shanks
Roger & Luffy both searched for One Piece which was created by Joy Boy who most probably had Same Secret Dream as them
The Equivalent of this in Zoro's Version, is that he is Training to reach Highest Level so that he faces Mihawk
In other words:
Luffy's Secret Dream ~ Defeating Mihawk (In Parallel, not Equal Dreams)
Luffy finding One Piece (Which allows him to do that Secret Dream) ~ Reaching Highest Power Level (Which allows him to Fight Mihawk)
Since Oda already told us that Zoro's Peak is Asura, meaning Mastering it = Reaching Highest Power Level
Then just like One Piece was created by Joy Boy, Asura belongs to someone Ancient who had same Dream as Zoro
And didn't i tell you Mihawk is Ancient? That means Asura belongs to Original Samurai who First Dreamed of Defeating Mihawk
(Dunno if he succeeded or not, just like i dunno whether Joy Boy fulfilled his Dream or not, but regardless it was Temporary)
So just like One Piece is the Treasure that Luffy is gonna use to Fulfill Joy Boy & Roger's Will
Asura is the Power that Zoro is gonna use to Fullfill Ancient Samurai & Mihawk's Friend or Master's Will
(Think of this Character as Mihawk's Recent Koushirou or Kuina)
And just like Luffy was Revived thanks to a DF Shanks had, Zoro was Revived thanks to that Shinigami whom Mihawk gave him
We could say that the Shinigami is Zoro's Equivalent of Drums of Liberation
Conclusion? Zoro's Asura was Awakened after his Death & Next Time he tries to use it, something will happen (His Awakening)
Could it be a Black Blade will be forged in that moment? Most Probably, but we will see
So all DF Spirits in my opinion pass through Afterlife or a Place that contains Souls & that's where they get Recycled or stay Immortal
(It's like whoever created DFs, did it by creating his own Man-Made & Man-Controlled Afterlife instead of the Natural One)
No one returns from the Natural One just like in Real Life, but in the Man-Made One, it allows Rebirth & basically grants DF Spirits Immortality, so the real question, what determines whether someone goes to Real Afterlife or Fake One? Obviously some kind of Deal or particular Death.
However, we know that when a DF User dies, their Soul & Devil of the Fruit are separated as the first remains Dead while the second is transferred to a New Fruit, but apparently that doesn't seem to be the case with Mythical Zoans, they seem to stay connected with Souls of Users which allows Rebirth (Meaning that Mythical Beings take the Souls of their Users to the Man-Made Afterlife to Buff it & then return), this allows for "Awakening" as the Soul is now Stronger & able to change it's Body beyond it's Original Limits (Exactly like Brook explained how his Body works during Fishmen Island Arc, saying that his Soul became much Stronger & makes his Body function beyond what Bones are capable of)
The Idea is pretty clear, for The Body to surpass it's Limits, The Soul must be "Enhanced"
And apparently the Man-Made Afterlife is the Source of such "Enhancement" & Only Mythical Zoans + Brook's DF allow you to go there
So how did Zoro go there? This means that his Soul is also attached to something that would allow him entry into that Afterlife & return
It must be something "Unique" that happened to him before
Let me ask you, didn't Luffy eat his Nika DF after he met Shanks? So wouldn't it make sense that Zoro gained his Unique Treat after meeting Mihawk? What happened during their Meeting? Mihawk used "Yoru" to give him a Huge Chest Scar!
And he gave it to him right after he was surprised about something during Zoro's Final Attack
And then his Words were: "Know Yourself, Know The World"!
In my opinion, the idea is pretty clear:
Just like Shanks saw Roger in Luffy after hearing his Secret Dream
I believe Mihawk saw "Someone" in Zoro after seeing his Final Attack (Meaning that Mihawk met a Santoryu User before)
Luffy ended up eating Nika DF during his time with Shanks (Which was never eaten for Hundreds of Years)
Zoro received something from Mihawk (Which he never gave to anyone for Hundreds of Years, as i said in another Thread, Mihawk is Ancient)
Nika DF as i explained above is a Mythical Zoan, so it allows Luffy to get his Soul "Enhanced" once he Dies
Zoro on the other hand has a Powerful Spirit, but he lacked a way to access that Man-Made Afterlife & get his Soul "Enhanced" too
That's what Mihawk did for Zoro, he put a Spirit inside him (Not Asura, that's Zoro's), which would claim his Soul once he dies & takes it to the Man-Made Afterlife, so that his Soul gets "Enhanced" too & then Revived
So The Shinigami we saw during Onigashima Arc was actually put by Mihawk inside Zoro using "Yoru" (Which means Night btw)
And it's sole purpose was to "Awaken" Zoro's Full Potential once he Dies (It's like Mihawk's way of Guaranteeing Zoro survives long enough to reach his Max Power). This is a very nice Parallel as both Shanks & Mihawk were waiting for Luffy & Zoro to reach their Level & didn't make a move until Wano Arc ended & as the Duo they both Dream of Surpassing, it makes perfect sense that just like Shanks carried Luffy's DF, Mihawk vs Zoro also left something for Zoro
As to where does Asura come from? Just like i mentioned above, Mihawk saw "Someone" in Zoro just like Shanks saw Roger in Luffy.
That Someone was a Three-Sword Style User & could possibly be his Master or Father-Figure just like what Roger was for Shanks
Roger & Luffy both searched for One Piece which was created by Joy Boy who most probably had Same Secret Dream as them
The Equivalent of this in Zoro's Version, is that he is Training to reach Highest Level so that he faces Mihawk
In other words:
Luffy's Secret Dream ~ Defeating Mihawk (In Parallel, not Equal Dreams)
Luffy finding One Piece (Which allows him to do that Secret Dream) ~ Reaching Highest Power Level (Which allows him to Fight Mihawk)
Since Oda already told us that Zoro's Peak is Asura, meaning Mastering it = Reaching Highest Power Level
Then just like One Piece was created by Joy Boy, Asura belongs to someone Ancient who had same Dream as Zoro
And didn't i tell you Mihawk is Ancient? That means Asura belongs to Original Samurai who First Dreamed of Defeating Mihawk
(Dunno if he succeeded or not, just like i dunno whether Joy Boy fulfilled his Dream or not, but regardless it was Temporary)
So just like One Piece is the Treasure that Luffy is gonna use to Fulfill Joy Boy & Roger's Will
Asura is the Power that Zoro is gonna use to Fullfill Ancient Samurai & Mihawk's Friend or Master's Will
(Think of this Character as Mihawk's Recent Koushirou or Kuina)
And just like Luffy was Revived thanks to a DF Shanks had, Zoro was Revived thanks to that Shinigami whom Mihawk gave him
We could say that the Shinigami is Zoro's Equivalent of Drums of Liberation
Conclusion? Zoro's Asura was Awakened after his Death & Next Time he tries to use it, something will happen (His Awakening)
Could it be a Black Blade will be forged in that moment? Most Probably, but we will see