Character Discussion Is Luffy too special and become outlier in OP world?

[nik87]

Are you really so fucking hung up on Starvation? Fucking Sanji went several weeks without eating as a kid.
It's not that impressive if a kid could do it, But for your supposed boi it shouldn't even matter if he's had go a few days uneaten. Didn't think your boi was that fragile. Or are you just making it more than what it is because if it were someone else I'm damn sure you'd have a changed tune. Dude you so basic.

Oh, you think I am hung up on starvation? Mate, you confuse me with Oda. He is hung up on it, not me.
He is consistent with making Zoro faint from hunger, dont blame me for it.
My boi is so fragile that two Emperors together cannot break him enough so that he cannot cut their asses afterwards.
Oda is so basic.

Loool You are right about the SFX thingy but still fainting from hunger, Oda is definitely taking a piss

Yes, the SFX represents hunger. If you dont believe me, believe Oda. He used it in WCI, no poison at play.
I know personal headcanons are more tempting for you but I will always go with Oda's facts.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Oh, you think I am hung up on starvation? Mate, you confuse me with Oda. He is hung up on it, not me.
He is consistent with making Zoro faint from hunger, dont blame me for it.
My boi is so fragile that two Emperors together cannot break him enough so that he cannot cut their asses afterwards.
Oda is so basic.

Yes, the SFX represents hunger. If you dont believe me, believe Oda. He used it in WCI, no poison at play.
I know personal headcanons are more tempting for you but I will always go with Oda's facts.

Which is it? Firstly it was Zoro had broken Bones, then the next he doesn't have anything broken? Can you keep you're fanfiction straight.
But you are hung on starvation, because that's the argument you seem to be settled on. Don't cop out like a bitch.
Why is Zoro fainting from Starvation... You don't think it's probably both the stab and Starvation perhaps, or is that too much for you?
This always going back to Oda thing you have going on, to "win" your arguments is childish and is like the equivalent to tattling to a Mother. Are you one of those types? Those who can't win against their peers just calls it in and all?

 

[Formerly Seth]

What outlier means?

 

[Ravagerblade]

What outlier means?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/outlier
Basically someone out of the normal standards, possibly from a grouping or etc... Or something to that effect.

 

[Verq]

I wanna see the spotlight on someone else for a change, and not some false spotlight like 'sanji arc' but luffy gets all the shine as usual. Is a pipedream but one can only dream. Yea, main character plot is too strong

 

[Ravagerblade]

I wanna see the spotlight on someone else for a change, and not some false spotlight like 'sanji arc' but luffy gets all the shine as usual. Is a pipedream but one can only dream. Yea, main character plot is too strong

Are you acting dumb? This 'is" Luffy's Story, His Story. Trying to make it out to be "Main character lot is too strong" Is literally retarded for an argument. You will never get this imaginary story where buggy or whoever will be the main focus for chapters upon chapters as if he were the MC.

 

[Formerly Seth]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/outlier
Basically someone out of the normal standards, possibly from a grouping or etc... Or something to that effect.

Well then.

He is by default.

CoC user.

All of them are outliers ( - that lame fuck Chinjao ).

+ people always see something special in Luffy. ( in a good way )

Admirals, Yonko, Commanders.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Well then.

He is by default.

CoC user.

All of them are outliers ( - that lame fuck Chinjao ).

+ people always see something special in Luffy. ( in a good way )

Admirals, Yonko, Commanders.

I mean, Most main characters are; Some are even more outliers. It's really nothing to be hyped or to bash or anything about.
It's just how things "can" be.
Hell even real people can be outliers. Take for instance a loner. He is an outlier from the rest of his groupings of his peers etc...
It's a basic example but it should hopefully get my meaning out there.

 

[Verq]

Are you acting dumb? This 'is" Luffy's Story, His Story. Trying to make it out to be "Main character lot is too strong" Is literally retarded for an argument. You will never get this imaginary story where buggy or whoever will be the main focus for chapters upon chapters as if he were the MC.

I don't think its Luffy's story alone because that would take away from the actual value of the other strawhats. All I'm saying is that the story and fans would benefit from giving the other strawhats more agency and significance in their respective arcs. In my opinion, arcs that are a specific strawhat centered should see that strawhat play the most significant role and experience the greatest growth. It shouldn't be that only luffy gets the most development in every arc.

 

[Ravagerblade]

I don't think its Luffy's story alone because that would take away from the actual value of the other strawhats. All I'm saying is that the story and fans would benefit from giving the other strawhats more agency and significance in their perspective arcs. In my opinion, arcs that are a specific strawhat centered should see that strawhat play the most significant role and experience the greatest growth. It shouldn't be that only luffy gets the most development in every arc.

That's not what it seemed as if you were implying though. Be more clearer next time.
As such though; Luffy will mostly always get some sort of development, and Yes other characters should get more to them, they can be just 'there' but that's not a Luffy issue but an Oda issue.

 

[serkeara]

My point is that Luffy is the only person possessing those attributes in One Piece world. If you look at other mangas (except One Punch Man or Solo leveling of course), there will be other characters who got special treatment like main characters, which makes MC not the outlier and make his journey believable.

E.g.
Sasuke in Naruto
Kilua, Kurapika, Hisoka in HxH
Tomora in Boku no hero (or even Todoroki or Bakugo can still remain the same tier with Midoriya)
Fushiguro in Jujutsu
or even Vegeta in Dragon ball

However, the explanation I got most is "Luffy is MC", which actually even strengthen my point. Or "Luffy is struggling too", which I believe others would be dead by now if they got beaten like Luffy. Not to mention most people just use a cheap trick by attacking Zoro to deviate the topic.

 

[nik87]

Which is it? Firstly it was Zoro had broken Bones, then the next he doesn't have anything broken? Can you keep you're fanfiction straight.
But you are hung on starvation, because that's the argument you seem to be settled on. Don't cop out like a bitch.
Why is Zoro fainting from Starvation... You don't think it's probably both the stab and Starvation perhaps, or is that too much for you?
This always going back to Oda thing you have going on, to "win" your arguments is childish and is like the equivalent to tattling to a Mother. Are you one of those types? Those who can't win against their peers just calls it in and all?

Read, I know it is hard for you but try harder, you will see which it is.
Again, I know you are slow but, it is Oda who decided on starvation.
I know you like your headcanons more but we all prefer Oda's facts.
The stab has nothing to do because there was no stab at all during first faint from starvation. Is that too much for you?

No need to be triggered all the time just because you fail in every argument.
You could win sometimes too, if you actually start paying attention to manga facts.
It's hard I know, butthurt and scared because of Zoro is a tough life to live.
I am rooting for ya tho, you can do it.

 

[Finalbeta]

Which is it? Firstly it was Zoro had broken Bones, then the next he doesn't have anything broken? Can you keep you're fanfiction straight.
But you are hung on starvation, because that's the argument you seem to be settled on. Don't cop out like a bitch.
Why is Zoro fainting from Starvation... You don't think it's probably both the stab and Starvation perhaps, or is that too much for you?
This always going back to Oda thing you have going on, to "win" your arguments is childish and is like the equivalent to tattling to a Mother. Are you one of those types? Those who can't win against their peers just calls it in and all?

What? Do you seriously believe Zoro magically healed or something? Or instead of his probable broken bones he stood under a state of starvation?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Read, I know it is hard for you but try harder, you will see which it is.
Again, I know you are slow but, it is Oda who decided on starvation.
I know you like your headcanons more but we all prefer Oda's facts.
The stab has nothing to do because there was no stab at all during first faint from starvation. Is that too much for you?

No need to be triggered all the time just because you fail in every argument.
You could win sometimes too, if you actually start paying attention to manga facts.
It's hard I know, butthurt and scared because of Zoro is a tough life to live.
I am rooting for ya tho, you can do it.

So you again stoop to being patronizing. lol And you wonder why the Zoro fanbase is called Toxic. You're ego knows no bounds. Continue being a narcissist for all I care. But as far as I'm concerned Your as dumb as box of rocks.

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What? Do you seriously believe Zoro magically healed or something? Or instead of his probable broken bones he stood under a state of starvation?

Do. You. Read. ?
I Asked him which was it. Broken Bones or not? Get the story straight. Don't just jump on the buzz words.

 

[nik87]

So you again stoop to being patronizing. lol And you wonder why the Zoro fanbase is called Toxic. You're ego knows no bounds. Continue being a narcissist for all I care. But as far as I'm concerned Your as dumb as box of rocks.

Toxic Zorotards are not the ones making you choose your own headcanons instead of manga facts. :yasu:

 

[Finalbeta]

Do. You. Read. ?
I Asked him which was it. Broken Bones or not? Get the story straight. Don't just jump on the buzz words.

You specifically mentioned you think Zoro was probably also starving and implicated the bones argument was fanfiction.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You specifically mentioned you think Zoro was probably also starving and implicated the bones argument was fanfiction.

Two entire different situations Dude. And I was saying because I saw it both ways, and I haven't bothered to read Viz yet.
So stop bullshiting me, You're just getting your panties in a twist.

 

[Raughtale]

My point is that Luffy is the only person possessing those attributes in One Piece world. If you look at other mangas (except One Punch Man or Solo leveling of course), there will be other characters who got special treatment like main characters, which makes MC not the outlier and make his journey believable.

E.g.
Sasuke in Naruto
Kilua, Kurapika, Hisoka in HxH
Tomora in Boku no hero (or even Todoroki or Bakugo can still remain the same tier with Midoriya)
Fushiguro in Jujutsu
or even Vegeta in Dragon ball

However, the explanation I got most is "Luffy is MC", which actually even strengthen my point. Or "Luffy is struggling too", which I believe others would be dead by now if they got beaten like Luffy. Not to mention most people just use a cheap trick by attacking Zoro to deviate the topic.

The point is you're wrong, plenty of people have those attributes and Zoro is one of them, Kid and his crew went to the New World without knowing haki had fights with 3 Emperors and are still alive.

 

[serkeara]

The point is you're wrong, plenty of people have those attributes and Zoro is one of them, Kid and his crew went to the New World without knowing haki had fights with 3 Emperors and are still alive.

lol. If you really think Zoro and especially Kid were treated the same way as Luffy, I don't see the point to continue debate.

 

[Raughtale]

lol. If you really think Zoro and especially Kid were treated the same way as Luffy, I don't see the point to continue debate.

Glad you finally realized a bad faith thread isn't worth debating.