General & Others Is Oda a bad powerscaler?
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He's not a bad powerscaler, he just doesn't go through the trouble of saying 'X is stronger than Y'.
He makes things very clear through portrayal. Issues arise when biased fans don't like that portrayal and go through some of the most complicated mental gymnastics to try and shift the general consensus...
He makes things very clear through portrayal. Issues arise when biased fans don't like that portrayal and go through some of the most complicated mental gymnastics to try and shift the general consensus...
Yeah one of the worst lol but that's Mainly because he doesn't care and is willing To sacrifice logic for plot.
Proven multiple times over the course of the manga.
The most recent example is :
Luffy tanks 12hours of a YC1 beating him hard but gets one shot by Kaido.
So either Kaido one shots Katakuri which makes Kaido > all YC1 at the same time (craziness)
Or
He doesn't care and just wanted to hype Kaido (most likely).
Proven multiple times over the course of the manga.
The most recent example is :
Luffy tanks 12hours of a YC1 beating him hard but gets one shot by Kaido.
So either Kaido one shots Katakuri which makes Kaido > all YC1 at the same time (craziness)
Or
He doesn't care and just wanted to hype Kaido (most likely).
Oda is one of the worst power writers I’ve read. There is a very fine line between having your power levels be vague, and having literally nothing make any sense from a power level perspective.
And I’m not talking about people being happy with the power levels of certain characters, I’m talking characters who have certain powers or skill sets not using those powers and skills for no good reason, just because Oda thought the story would be more interesting if characters behaved nonsensically.
We find out that Marco can heal wounds. Gee, if only there were a scenario where that would’ve come in handy:
Luffy spends an entire arc using future sight, which only the mightiest people in the world can use. Well, I guess future sight doesn’t let you see the future of music
In my opinion, if you’re ever reading a manga where you recognized that if a character would’ve actually done the logical thing in a given scenario, then the story would lose emotional weight in some capacity, then the writer has straight up failed miserably.
There is also a ton of division and confusion among fandoms as nobody can really make sense of the power rules Oda establishes half the time. If Oda were even half decent at handling power levels, there wouldn’t be such division in the fandom over character strength.
Take Kingdom for example, the power discussions that go on about that manga are usually 90%+ people in agreement, because Hara is so good at executing his power levels that there is very little room for confusion or disagreement, and the story is allowed to bare its full emotional weight without people getting confused about what they are actually watching. That’s not the case half the time in OP.
Finally, Oda has trouble with power creep probably moreso than any other series I’ve seen with the exception of Naruto and DBS. There’s not much to elaborate on here, look at Alabasta Crocodile and Marineford Croc for a glaring example of this, but there are others as well.
How anyone can defend Oda’s ass tier power writing is beyond me.
And I’m not talking about people being happy with the power levels of certain characters, I’m talking characters who have certain powers or skill sets not using those powers and skills for no good reason, just because Oda thought the story would be more interesting if characters behaved nonsensically.
We find out that Marco can heal wounds. Gee, if only there were a scenario where that would’ve come in handy:
Luffy spends an entire arc using future sight, which only the mightiest people in the world can use. Well, I guess future sight doesn’t let you see the future of music
In my opinion, if you’re ever reading a manga where you recognized that if a character would’ve actually done the logical thing in a given scenario, then the story would lose emotional weight in some capacity, then the writer has straight up failed miserably.
There is also a ton of division and confusion among fandoms as nobody can really make sense of the power rules Oda establishes half the time. If Oda were even half decent at handling power levels, there wouldn’t be such division in the fandom over character strength.
Take Kingdom for example, the power discussions that go on about that manga are usually 90%+ people in agreement, because Hara is so good at executing his power levels that there is very little room for confusion or disagreement, and the story is allowed to bare its full emotional weight without people getting confused about what they are actually watching. That’s not the case half the time in OP.
Finally, Oda has trouble with power creep probably moreso than any other series I’ve seen with the exception of Naruto and DBS. There’s not much to elaborate on here, look at Alabasta Crocodile and Marineford Croc for a glaring example of this, but there are others as well.
How anyone can defend Oda’s ass tier power writing is beyond me.
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You are right but like @Admiral Lee Hung pointed, characters tend to forget that they have some abilities at ''convenient'' moments...
Nothing realistic about that.
Nothing realistic about that.
If Marco forgot that he can heal people’s wounds as his own life-long father got stabbed right in front of him in a war scenario, then Marco is hands down the biggest idiot in One Piece.
Which of course is not true, the actual truth is that Oda sacrificed logic for emotion, which is one of the telltale signs of a bad power-writer.
Which of course is not true, the actual truth is that Oda sacrificed logic for emotion, which is one of the telltale signs of a bad power-writer.
No not really. If he needs cop outs like Big Mom's cake craving just to not let the protagonists die or let Kuri have a merienda in the middle of a fight, you know that he certainly cares about that a lot actually.
It's just that fans often do not get that there are power interactions inbetween different dfs and abilities and that sometimes it can happen that people of lower tiers have singular/certain quirks that are exceptional for their level.
That's just that.
It's just that fans often do not get that there are power interactions inbetween different dfs and abilities and that sometimes it can happen that people of lower tiers have singular/certain quirks that are exceptional for their level.
That's just that.
What are you talking about? Lol
Marco can heal other people’s wounds. This was established post timeskip. Meaning he could’ve healed Whitebeard from Squardo’s stab (or maybe even later wounds as well) when he was standing one foot away but didn’t because Oda seems to think that logical behavior and emotional story-telling are different things half of the time.
Marco can heal other people’s wounds. This was established post timeskip. Meaning he could’ve healed Whitebeard from Squardo’s stab (or maybe even later wounds as well) when he was standing one foot away but didn’t because Oda seems to think that logical behavior and emotional story-telling are different things half of the time.