Chapter Discussion Is Oda cooked or is Elbaf's server broken?

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Making an entire chapter without one single mistake is very hard by design.. but here... it's just another level.





The nature are similar, yes. The recurrence are not normal.

(Chap 1126)
- The sword with a spherical pummel and a simple circular guard appears
- The bandana appears
- The circle vest button appears

Chap 1127:
> The sword disappears
> The band on the left arm disappears

- The sword reappears

> The sword had now a circle pummel

- The bandana reappears

> The circle vest button is a square now

> The sword disappears

- The sword reappears

> The band on the left arm disappears

> The sword now has a fancy guard, not a circular one

- The band on her left arm reappears

(notice here that even in panels where Nami is just suggested, Oda take the time to draw the sword and the band on her arm)

- Usopp's bag appears

> The sword diseappears (middle panel)

(Notice that those three are on the SAME page)

(still no sword)

> The band on the left arm disappears

- The sword reappears
- The band on the left arm reappears

> The sword disappears
> Usopp's bag disappears

- The bag reappears

(Still no sword)

(Still no sword)

> The band on the left arm disappears

(Clearly still no sword)

> Usopp's bag disappears

(still no sword ?)

(yeah, still no sword)

> Luffy uses a Gear 3 attack but calls it Gear 4
> Luffy has no weapon behind his back
> Luffy has no strawhat showing

Why is Nami shocked ? (she should know that the trio would take care of that)

(Still no sword)

> A sword appears on Luffy's back

(Still no Usopp's bag)
(Still no sword on Nami)
(Still no strawhats)

- The band on her left arm reappears

(Still no strawhat)

The dialogue here, feel a bit eefy, but it could be a confirmation bias

> An axe appears on Luffy's back
> Is this really Enma on the bottom left ?

(Still no sword)

> The vest button is a CIRCLE again


I count at least 20 mistakes and at least 20 inconsistancies.

Something is off.

Oda stopped drawing Nami with sword after page 8.
Strawhat can be hidden behind his fur coat.
Small Mistakes in small panels are common.
There seems to be only 3-4 genuine mistakes.
Gear 3 /Gear 4 thing are just people headcanon.

 

[Logiko]

Small Mistakes in small panels are common.

Common at a rate of 1 to 3 mistakes per chapter MAX and after checking with the editors !

We are talking about a LOT of mistakes, not just 3, not just 10. When something disseappear and reappear, it IS a mistake (or something intended). The sword missing is not counted. It's only counted when there is an error between panels

I demonstrated here (you didn't read) that Oda EVEN with the smallest panel, took care of not making the mistakes. So the size of the panels have nothing to do with it.

And while yes, the strawhat can be hidden behind the fur coat, we can't know that. We have to count this as a mistake until we know for sure. (plus, this would be inconsistant with the usual times were Luffy were coats)

You are trying to explain the inexplicable here.

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If Oda didn't plan that, there is a major problem on this chapter in term of consistancy (there could be many reasons). But if he did. This is just amazing because it allows us to have clues that this could be an illusion.

 

[D. Plant]

Feels like he was on his holiday and took a day off to draw this chapter. You can tell easily the things with clean lines are drawn by his editors, Oda later draw on top of them with the rough lines.

 

[Logiko]

Feels like he was on his holiday and took a day off to draw this chapter. You can tell easily the things with clean lines are drawn by his editors, Oda later draw on top of them with the rough lines.

The editors don't draw and Oda do not let his assistant draw his characters.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Making an entire chapter without one single mistake is very hard by design.. but here... it's just another level.





The nature are similar, yes. The recurrence are not normal.

(Chap 1126)
- The sword with a spherical pummel and a simple circular guard appears
- The bandana appears
- The circle vest button appears

Genuine mistake 1
Chap 1127:
> The sword disappears
> The band on the left arm disappears

- The sword reappears

> The sword had now a circle pummel

- The bandana reappears

> The circle vest button is a square now

Sword hidden by building
> The sword disappears

- The sword reappears

> The band on the left arm disappears
Genuine mistake 2

> The sword now has a fancy guard, not a circular one
Headcanon

- The band on her left arm reappears

(notice here that even in panels where Nami is just suggested, Oda take the time to draw the sword and the band on her arm)

- Usopp's bag appears

> The sword diseappears (middle panel)

(Notice that those three are on the SAME page)

(still no sword)
Panel too small
> The band on the left arm disappears

- The sword reappears
- The band on the left arm reappears

> The sword disappears
> Usopp's bag disappears
Usopp's bag is there you can't see it

- The bag reappears

(Still no sword)

(Still no sword)

> The band on the left arm disappears
Oda stopped drawing Nami's sword after this
Usopp's bag too

(Clearly still no sword)

> Usopp's bag disappears

(still no sword ?)

(yeah, still no sword)

> Luffy uses a Gear 3 attack but calls it Gear 4
> Luffy has no weapon behind his back
> Luffy has no strawhat showing

Weapon is behind coat
Gear 3/Gear 4 are just people headcanon
maybe this is new way of using gear 4
strawhat is hidden because of helmet or coat.
you are assuming things.

Why is Nami shocked ? (she should know that the trio would take care of that)
That's Nami nothing new
(Still no sword)

> A sword appears on Luffy's back

(Still no Usopp's bag)
(Still no sword on Nami)
(Still no strawhats)

- The band on her left arm reappears

(Still no strawhat)

The dialogue here, feel a bit eefy, but it could be a confirmation bias

> An axe appears on Luffy's back
Genuine mistake 3
> Is this really Enma on the bottom left ?

(Still no sword)

> The vest button is a CIRCLE again


I count at least 20 mistakes and at least 20 inconsistancies.

Something is off.

I only find 3 genuine mistakes

 

[Logiko]

I only find 3 genuine mistakes

I literally just made a post listing them. Reread it.

 

[D. Plant]

The editors don't draw and Oda do not let his assistant draw his characters.

I'm not talking about the characters, I mean the lego buildings.
If you have two people working on the same thing without good coordination, the end product will feel disconnected. This Smoke on bike scene is an example. The bike is drawn by his editor, after editor finished it, then Oda drew Smoker on top of his editor's work. Oda don't draw Smoker holding the handle might be because editor and Oda have two different perspectives, scene like this should drawn by one person. Also it will cause mistakes that require to erase partial of the bike which Oda probably doesn't want to overlap his editor's work.

 

[Logiko]

The bike is drawn by his editor, after editor finished it, then Oda drew Smoker on top of his editor's work

The assistant *

The 5 assistants draw still objects and environment in One Piece. The editors do not draw, they check and supervise the chapter if necessary. They are exterior to the drawing process.

Oda don't draw Smoker holding the handle might be because editor and Oda have two different perspectives, scene like this should drawn by one person.

No, it's because it's a much more powerful pose. Oda do not hesitate to draw over the work of his assistant when needed.

Again. Oda, do not let his assistants draw his characters. He wants to draw everything that moves. Which is logical, it's were the life is created.

 

[Kerkovian]

Twats that cannot read and only care about fighting commenting funny stuffs is laughable. You losers go learn how to read and understand the story. This is all trickery from the trickster Loki. He has the trick trick no mi, which let's him trick anyone unless they get out of his tricks by understanding it.

 

[Afroking]

I honestly think these "mistakes" were intentionally made because there is no way Oda even mixes up two different PUs like that, which were used in the previous arc.

Then there are several other "small mistakes" but the most odd thing is the cat turning into a lion. Unless it has a df, this really makes no sense at all.

So my conclusion, they're in an illusion.
I would get 2 - 3 mistakes but 22 (Logiko stated he found 22 mistakes)? Yeah, it's intentional.

The small mistakes are nonexistent to be honest. Bands and weapons appearing and dissapearing.

What intrigues me more are the gear 4 mistake that it is too much on the eye and this panel rigth here

Too much passage of time and black screen as if someone was out and is the same with last chapter

All this being Nami's dream/hallucination is quite probable.

 

[D. Plant]

The assistant *

The 5 assistants draw still objects and environment in One Piece. The editors do not draw, they check and supervise the chapter if necessary. They are exterior to the drawing process.


No, it's because it's a much more powerful pose. Oda do not hesitate to draw over the work of his assistant when needed.

Again. Oda, do not let his assistants draw his characters. He wants to draw everything that moves. Which is logical, it's were the life is created.

I mixed them up, yep assistants.

Oda is a control freak and always have new ideas that he is not afraid to change them. So by the time assistants finished drawing those things, he might have a change of ideas, they also want to limit the time so they won't overwork on this areas which results with so many unfinished work and mistakes.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Making an entire chapter without one single mistake is very hard by design.. but here... it's just another level.





The nature are similar, yes. The recurrence are not normal.

(Chap 1126)
- The sword with a spherical pummel and a simple circular guard appears
- The bandana appears
- The circle vest button appears

Chap 1127:
> The sword disappears
> The band on the left arm disappears

- The sword reappears

> The sword had now a circle pummel

- The bandana reappears

> The circle vest button is a square now

> The sword disappears

- The sword reappears

> The band on the left arm disappears

> The sword now has a fancy guard, not a circular one

- The band on her left arm reappears

(notice here that even in panels where Nami is just suggested, Oda take the time to draw the sword and the band on her arm)

- Usopp's bag appears

> The sword diseappears (middle panel)

(Notice that those three are on the SAME page)

(still no sword)

> The band on the left arm disappears

- The sword reappears
- The band on the left arm reappears

> The sword disappears
> Usopp's bag disappears

- The bag reappears

(Still no sword)

(Still no sword)

> The band on the left arm disappears

(Clearly still no sword)

> Usopp's bag disappears

(still no sword ?)

(yeah, still no sword)

> Luffy uses a Gear 3 attack but calls it Gear 4
> Luffy has no weapon behind his back
> Luffy has no strawhat showing

Why is Nami shocked ? (she should know that the trio would take care of that)

(Still no sword)

> A sword appears on Luffy's back

(Still no Usopp's bag)
(Still no sword on Nami)
(Still no strawhats)

- The band on her left arm reappears

(Still no strawhat)

The dialogue here, feel a bit eefy, but it could be a confirmation bias

> An axe appears on Luffy's back
> Is this really Enma on the bottom left ?

(Still no sword)

> The vest button is a CIRCLE again


I count at least 20 mistakes and at least 20 inconsistancies.

Something is off.

 

[D. Plant]

Twats that cannot read and only care about fighting commenting funny stuffs is laughable. You losers go learn how to read and understand the story. This is all trickery from the trickster Loki. He has the trick trick no mi, which let's him trick anyone unless they get out of his tricks by understanding it.

These tricks also cause dementia?

 

[Afroking]

These tricks also cause dementia?

It is not a scar,it is sketching for shadowing and shit .
Zoro had them on his neck this chapter and many other characters before.

 

[SakazOuki]

@gz89 the biggest mistake this chapter is pairing IJ with G3 and base Zoro
It should’ve been Gear5 and KoH mode

 

[Albino 👑]

Nami doesn’t have her log pose either

 

[kekaro]

Seem like genuine errors to me
Egghead had this too btw. and way more relevant, like him forgetting to draws namis tattoo

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

All this being Nami's dream/hallucination is quite probable.

What about villagers?
Is Nami also hallucinating/dreaming about them?
M3 defeated Giant bees and Ear God before they met Nami.
It can't be Nami's hallucination/dream.

Hallucination/dream plot is possible. But only if all east blue 5 and Villagers are hallucinating or dreaming.

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Nami doesn’t have her log pose either

Nami doesn't have her log pose since chapter 1122

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Just errors. It’s not uncommon for Oda to make mistakes in the manga and most mistakes here are pretty minor which makes sense since Oda draws these over the course of a few days I don’t expect him to get every minute detail correct.

 

[Logiko]

Just errors. It’s not uncommon for Oda to make mistakes in the manga and most mistakes here are pretty minor which makes sense since Oda draws these over the course of a few days I don’t expect him to get every minute detail correct.

Seem like genuine errors to me
Egghead had this too btw. and way more relevant, like him forgetting to draws namis tattoo

I think you guys don't understand the level here. We are not simply talking about 2 or three little mistakes (something that is quite inevitable) we are talking about a chapter FILLED with mistakes and errors of continuity OR complete design change.

There are two explanations :

- Either Oda constructed this chapter in a deconstructed ways (but this doesn't explain some of the mistakes)
- Either Oda left us a big clue for the future of this storyline.

Usually there are 2.. maybe 3 mistakes at worse. Here, it's more than 20 ! And not just that, it's RECURING errors and real design changes, sometimes in the SAME page.

Any editor checking that would be very surprised.