Future Events Is One Piece being marketed as a "12 Part Series"?

#1
So I always think this is an important discussion to be had about the series because it is by far the most important topic. "What is left" can make or break how the series pans out or unfolds. It can entirely save or ruin past adventures. So I've talked about this on other forums (with other usernames) to some degree but feel like I'd gain the most discussion here.

So we got this advert in the news thread, but it hasn't been shown around much:




Essentially what its saying is that with volumes 97, 98, and 99, (in 3 of 4 different sections), they are releasing 9 boxes altogether that encompass the past arcs of one piece through next year to One Piece's 24th anniversary. The first 3 are with 97, the 2nd 3 with 98, etc. The boxes are comprised as followed:

Box 1: 12 Volumes (East Blue)
Box 2: 11 Volumes (Boroque Works)
Box 3: 9 Volumes (Jaya, Skypiea, LRLL)
Box 4: 13 Volumes (Water 7, Enies Lobby)
Box 5: 8 Volumes (Thriller Bark, Sabaody, Amazon Lily)
Box 6: 8 Volumes (Impel Down, Marineford)
Box 7: 9 Volumes (Fishman Island, Punk Hazard)
Box 8: 10 Volumes (Dressrosa)
Box 9: 10 Volumes (Zou, Whole Cake Island)

So what is interesting is that with Volume 100, which falls in "section" 4 on this diagram, it just talks about Wano arc being comprised of 91~present (we currently are sitting in the middle of volume 98). This most certainly means the Wano "arc" will very likely comprise the entirety of Box 10 (this is not mentioned, but likely Shueisha compiles Wano this way to match the others eventually), which will be well over 10 volumes by the time it is over I'm sure. Now the big question revolves around these boxes themselves. As you can see, they were very clearly separated into small, digestible boxes that cover "mostly" related plot threads or tangential arcs. Compare to the US boxes so far, which are 20+ volume boxes for western collectors. So why 9 (so far) boxes? Why does it seem like Box 10 is starting another "Quarter" with Wano? I think thats exactly what its doing.

For people who consistently make jokes about the Anime or Advertising being privy to knowing more info than we give them credit for, I think they are right on the money. Wano being the start of the last "quarter" of the One Piece collection makes sense. It makes sense with Oda's admissions to wanting to finish in a finite number of years. It makes sense with the "80%" progress comments.


Now, does this mean One Piece is looking to end "exactly" on 120 volumes because Quarter 3 finished on an even 90 volumes? While signs seem to point to this I'm personally not sure that "needs" to be the case. If you look closely, you can see that each quarter seems to roughly end around the 30 volume mark, but they aren't perfect. Wano covering Box 10 very likely won't be a clean 10 volumes like Box 8 and Box 9 were. It can, and will, likely will go significantly past that to 12-15 volumes judging by the current pacing. If thats the case, it leaves less than 20 volumes to cover the remaining 2 boxes (again, assuming there will be 12 boxes total for an even collection).

So where does that leave us with Box's 11 and 12? Well, Wano still doesn't resolve the fact that Elbaf hasn't been seen, nor Laugh Tale, or any other "extraneous island" or plot point before the Final war. So my guesses would be that:

- Box 11 covers everything Post-Wano but prior to Laugh Tale/The Final War. Things like Elbaf, Lodestar and the possible Vegapunk arc could fall here.

- Box 12 covers Laugh Tale and the Final War.

Like any other Box collection outlined above, Boxes 11 and 12 (like Box 10) do not have to fall at an even 10 volumes. They can be longer or shorter depending on what Oda does. For example, Wano/Box 10 may be 13/14 volumes long by the end. Box 11 could be another 8-13 volumes (just judging by the smallest box being 8 and the largest so far being 13). Box 12 could be the largest one in the series at 14+ volumes, considering what it needs to achieve.

So while this doesn't actually answer "how much" is actually left, it puts into perspective on where we probably are in the story, and possibly "why" 80% or "about" 5 years is a conscious statement by the Author. It does not mean it will be perfect, but I just figured I bring this up since it seems like Shueisha will eventually market One Piece as an "Epic 12 Part Saga" one day.


Tl;dr: Signs and advertising seem to point to OP being a marketed 12 part/boxed series, based on the previous 9 parts/boxes (90 volumes total) separated by 3 "Quarters", with 1 quarter remaining. Wano is Part/Box 10, starting the 4th Quarter. There will be a Part/Box 11 that connects us from Wano to Part/Box 12, which will be the final arc/war/etc. This should at least net the series to 120 volumes, but it could be more or less depending on how Oda ends the series.
 
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#2
Think your right in the money here. Clearly, Oda and the higherups are in consultation over the fact they are going into the end run of the series, and they will know how the last chunk after Wano will go. He will have given them a road map with how many arcs are left and a rough estimation of how long he thinks each will take, and they've started to market with that in mind.
 
#4
I agree, it's closing in and i think oda really wants to end this series sooner rather than later, and that would also fit the 5 year time frame
For sure, but just remember that while we are assumedly on Part 10 of 12, it does not mean Parts 11 or 12 won't be sizable or fit in a dictated number of chapters. Wano, very clearly, won't finish in 10 volumes (we are already on the 8th volume and the battles haven't really even started). It will be longer than that.


The final arc could very well be (and should be all things considered), the biggest thing the series has done. If Wano is a 12-13 volume arc, what does that say about the Final War with vast amount more characters? That's not even including anything bridging us from Wano to the Final War (aka, Part 11). The final war will require some sort of "escalation" to get to it, just like how things escalated to Wano the past few arcs. A storyline, likely built from whatever comes after Wano and into Elbaf/etc will lead us to that final arc, but it will probably take some time to do it.

Thats why I don't see it "cleanly" ending in 23 volumes
 
#5
For sure, but just remember that while we are assumedly on Part 10 of 12, it does not mean Parts 11 or 12 won't be sizable or fit in a dictated number of chapters. Wano, very clearly, won't finish in 10 volumes (we are already on the 8th volume and the battles haven't really even started). It will be longer than that.


The final arc could very well be (and should be all things considered), the biggest thing the series has done. If Wano is a 12-13 volume arc, what does that say about the Final War with vast amount more characters? That's not even including anything bridging us from Wano to the Final War (aka, Part 11). The final war will require some sort of "escalation" to get to it, just like how things escalated to Wano the past few arcs. A storyline, likely built from whatever comes after Wano and into Elbaf/etc will lead us to that final arc, but it will probably take some time to do it.

Thats why I don't see it "cleanly" ending in 23 volumes
Oda did choose to expand it by over extending Dressrosa and WCI, the sub characters are the issue IMO
 
#6
Oda did choose to expand it by over extending Dressrosa and WCI, the sub characters are the issue IMO
Yup, my point exactly. We may even see the same problem in Wano. Its vastly larger than both of those arcs already in setup/scope, but lets see how the battles turn out this next year or so first.

Then you just have the myriad of "main" plot points that still need to be addressed, culminating into whatever grim conflict Oda was outlining at Jump Festa last year. There will certainly be hints to it after Wano finishes, but its very unlikely that he would entirely drop things like Elbaf or possibly reaching the end of Grand Line (Lodestar) before addressing that, but thats my opinion for now.


To me, the most crucial aspect is whatever follows Wano. While I don't want it to drag before the final war, I hope its sizable enough to where the Strawhats can feel like they are going on an adventure again before things get dramatic for the ending. Whether or not that includes things like the Underworld, Vegapunk, Elbaf, etc prior to the Final War's storyline is the biggest question I have.
 
#7
Yup, my point exactly. We may even see the same problem in Wano. Its vastly larger than both of those arcs already in setup/scope, but lets see how the battles turn out this next year or so first.

Then you just have the myriad of "main" plot points that still need to be addressed, culminating into whatever grim conflict Oda was outlining at Jump Festa last year. There will certainly be hints to it after Wano finishes, but its very unlikely that he would entirely drop things like Elbaf or possibly reaching the end of Grand Line (Lodestar) before addressing that, but thats my opinion for now.


To me, the most crucial aspect is whatever follows Wano. While I don't want it to drag before the final war, I hope its sizable enough to where the Strawhats can feel like they are going on an adventure again before things get dramatic for the ending. Whether or not that includes things like the Underworld, Vegapunk, Elbaf, etc prior to the Final War's storyline is the biggest question I have.
His issue it seems also is to want to make it short and consise but as the story goes on keep layering it

Sub characters take up way to much time, Law 5 ch flashback and Oden 14 ch flashback... Doffy flashback, not necessary at all
 
#10
yes I believe you're right based on the build up

Kaido/ Rocks story is part 10

BM/ Shanks story is Part 11 in Elbaf and shortly after it

Part 12 is WG and BB in the final

however in Part 10 and 11 there will be a lot of build up to Part 12 more than any previous Part, Oda will start to reveal some big stuff very soon and many major players will play their role in them( like many marine, Garp,Mohawk..ect), that's why Part 12 won't need to be as long as we preceive
 
#11
yes I believe you're right based on the build up

Kaido/ Rocks story is part 10

BM/ Shanks story is Part 11 in Elbaf and shortly after it

Part 12 is WG and BB in the final

however in Part 10 and 11 there will be a lot of build up to Part 12 more than any previous Part, Oda will start to reveal some big stuff very soon and many major players will play their role in them( like many marine, Garp,Mohawk..ect), that's why Part 12 won't need to be as long as we preceive
I agree that the setup will be there but we shouldn't underestimate the length of the final arc due to how notorious authors are for usually making it their longest. Oda will probably want to draw as much as he can there, considering it is the final conflict. Recall that Marineford mainly setup future plotlines and teased many characters. It only really ended Ace and WBs plotlines.

The Final War needs to not only tie up any extraneous plotline Oda wants to, but also end every Strawhats personal storyline/achievement/dream, not to mention, multiple villains/groups and allies.

Just like how Wano is turning out to be bigger than people thought (81 chapters and counting) knowing how Oda addresses his work seems like the Final War will probably be the biggest plotline the series manages to address. When we are in the thick of it im sure most people won't want it to end anyway, but we'll see how Wano ends and how it and subsequent arcs set up the end.
 
#12
I agree that the setup will be there but we shouldn't underestimate the length of the final arc due to how notorious authors are for usually making it their longest. Oda will probably want to draw as much as he can there, considering it is the final conflict. Recall that Marineford mainly setup future plotlines and teased many characters. It only really ended Ace and WBs plotlines.

The Final War needs to not only tie up any extraneous plotline Oda wants to, but also end every Strawhats personal storyline/achievement/dream, not to mention, multiple villains/groups and allies.

Just like how Wano is turning out to be bigger than people thought (81 chapters and counting) knowing how Oda addresses his work seems like the Final War will probably be the biggest plotline the series manages to address. When we are in the thick of it im sure most people won't want it to end anyway, but we'll see how Wano ends and how it and subsequent arcs set up the end.
yes it will be very long, am just saying Oda will spread the important plotlines across Part 10,Part 11 and Part 12 rather than leaving most of them for Part 12, still the Final will be very long

I think Oda is building to a pre EoS major War in Wano that will conclude many important players story (like Kaido,Weevil, some Admirals, Supernovas, Garp) and reveal some big stuff

Part 11 will be a bit calmer but we may see some SHs achieving their dream like Zoro and Ussop, and the conclusion to BM and Shanks stories

Part 12 will focus mainly on the WG and BB

that's how I think it will play out
 
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MD Zolo

#16
If the series ends well and does everything it needs to, I honestly don't know if I'll be sad. Hopefully the answer is "satisfied"
If you don't become sad after watching OP's ending, it was probably didn't end well.

I always get sad when a good series ends. Satisfied but sad.
 
#17
If you don't become sad after watching OP's ending, it was probably didn't end well.

I always get sad when a good series ends. Satisfied but sad.
I understand that, but if the series has you craving for more, it probably didn't do everything it set out to do. For some shorter lived series, this doesnt matter, but for OP, it deserves to tell everything it set up. There are really two types of sadness imo and its probably why I wasn't "sad" when a few other series ended lol, but for OP, the series has been a part of my life for so long that I'll really look at the ending in 2 ways:

- If it doesnt finish everything it meant to, I will be sad because id want more.

- If it does, ill only be sad for the emotional impact of the ending. But mostly ill be satisfied because it ended and did everything it needed to do
 
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