Chapter Discussion Is Shanks crew twice as strong as regular yonko crew?
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Didn't Brannew say that the red hair pirates have high average bounties and are considered the most balanced among the yonko?
As Shanks so far appears to have the smallest yonko crew, it would be pretty believable for me that Shanks crew members have higher bounties than compared to the Big Mom Pirates and Beast Pirates and their commanders to even things out. Not to mention the fact that people like lucky roo, Beckman and yassop get more time to shine when your crew isn't in the 20, 000 member figure like Kaido or Big Mom's. There leaves more opportunity for individual members to get the headline news when your crew isn't overcrowded with people and don't have to look through hundreds of bounties to find the star of the show.
Though having said that I doubt the sweet commanders and the calamities are 2x weaker than shank's fighters, that would be unrealistic imo. But having a smaller crew does mean that you must make up numbers for quality and strength, so I won't be surprised at all if Shanks commanders all have bounties higher than other yonko commanders and are a little bit more stronger than other yonko commanders.
The other thing I would like to add are the crew and commander compositions. Outside of blackbeard himself, the rest of the blackbeard pirates imo are a bit weak compared to the other yonko commanders, especially when you think how jesus burgess did against sabo, shiyu can be stronger than him, but I doubt he's ben Beckman level right now, same goes for yassop vs Van auger. Without blackbeard himself, I think the rest of his crew would lose against the other yonko commanders like katakuri, Beckman, or King. Kaido's Calamities seem pretty damn strong with their high bounties and their physical feats, but till now no one else outside the crew is really impressive save the Calamities, which are only 3 people. Kaido's crew so far have shown to have quantity but no quality. it's 3 Calamities vs Shanks top 3 + 5 other veterans. Headliners like Hawkins I don't count considering he didn't even defeat zoro. He could end up losing a arm just like Kidd. The whitebeard pirates would of have a better chance against the red hair pirates, but after losing Ace, Squatch and Jozu's arm I don't think they have the strength anymore, not to mention pops is also gone.
Realistically i actually think the big mom pirates are closest to the red hair pirates, quality and strength wise. Counting Snack, they have 4 sweet commanders, plus 3 and more veterans. Add in the large amounts of paramecia users in big mom's crew and the Red Hair pirates will be dealing with quite a handful.
So yeah I won't be surprised if on a crew to crew member basis the red hair pirates are the strongest individually, having more and stronger quality fighters, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they are 'twice' as strong as other yonko crews. That would be unrealistic, and if were true, would mean the other yonko commanders aren't up to scratch.
As Shanks so far appears to have the smallest yonko crew, it would be pretty believable for me that Shanks crew members have higher bounties than compared to the Big Mom Pirates and Beast Pirates and their commanders to even things out. Not to mention the fact that people like lucky roo, Beckman and yassop get more time to shine when your crew isn't in the 20, 000 member figure like Kaido or Big Mom's. There leaves more opportunity for individual members to get the headline news when your crew isn't overcrowded with people and don't have to look through hundreds of bounties to find the star of the show.
Though having said that I doubt the sweet commanders and the calamities are 2x weaker than shank's fighters, that would be unrealistic imo. But having a smaller crew does mean that you must make up numbers for quality and strength, so I won't be surprised at all if Shanks commanders all have bounties higher than other yonko commanders and are a little bit more stronger than other yonko commanders.
The other thing I would like to add are the crew and commander compositions. Outside of blackbeard himself, the rest of the blackbeard pirates imo are a bit weak compared to the other yonko commanders, especially when you think how jesus burgess did against sabo, shiyu can be stronger than him, but I doubt he's ben Beckman level right now, same goes for yassop vs Van auger. Without blackbeard himself, I think the rest of his crew would lose against the other yonko commanders like katakuri, Beckman, or King. Kaido's Calamities seem pretty damn strong with their high bounties and their physical feats, but till now no one else outside the crew is really impressive save the Calamities, which are only 3 people. Kaido's crew so far have shown to have quantity but no quality. it's 3 Calamities vs Shanks top 3 + 5 other veterans. Headliners like Hawkins I don't count considering he didn't even defeat zoro. He could end up losing a arm just like Kidd. The whitebeard pirates would of have a better chance against the red hair pirates, but after losing Ace, Squatch and Jozu's arm I don't think they have the strength anymore, not to mention pops is also gone.
Realistically i actually think the big mom pirates are closest to the red hair pirates, quality and strength wise. Counting Snack, they have 4 sweet commanders, plus 3 and more veterans. Add in the large amounts of paramecia users in big mom's crew and the Red Hair pirates will be dealing with quite a handful.
So yeah I won't be surprised if on a crew to crew member basis the red hair pirates are the strongest individually, having more and stronger quality fighters, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they are 'twice' as strong as other yonko crews. That would be unrealistic, and if were true, would mean the other yonko commanders aren't up to scratch.
As a whole crew, I do think they are strongest Yonko crew!
But not to the point of saying equal to 2 Yonko crews hahaha
That's waaaaay out of their league!
But comparing one yonko crew to the others, Red Hair Pirates comes out on top as a group.
Again, underline the word "group" cause do not mix that with Shanks individual strength to be on top cause I don't believe that
But not to the point of saying equal to 2 Yonko crews hahaha
That's waaaaay out of their league!
But comparing one yonko crew to the others, Red Hair Pirates comes out on top as a group.
Again, underline the word "group" cause do not mix that with Shanks individual strength to be on top cause I don't believe that
now? Of course
- Mihawk is around low yonkou lvl. (Probably As strong As Shanks)
- Beckman is clearly lot stronger than other 1YC, because he's way closer to his captain.
- probably Lucky Roo is around 1YC level
- Yasopp is considered one of the most powerful fighter and most skilled sniper in the whole world. Probably his CoO is one of the best in the series. (He is only bit weaker than Lucky Roo)
- Rockstar is definitely stronger than other 4YC, perhaps he is as strong as Jack/Cracker or bit weaker.
- Mihawk is around low yonkou lvl. (Probably As strong As Shanks)
- Beckman is clearly lot stronger than other 1YC, because he's way closer to his captain.
- probably Lucky Roo is around 1YC level
- Yasopp is considered one of the most powerful fighter and most skilled sniper in the whole world. Probably his CoO is one of the best in the series. (He is only bit weaker than Lucky Roo)
- Rockstar is definitely stronger than other 4YC, perhaps he is as strong as Jack/Cracker or bit weaker.
i Think RHP Top 8-9 Commander are (Ben is Close to Shanks roux and Yasopp close to ben and other commander around 3-4YC Level) Almost 2 Time Stronger Than other Top 8-9 Commander of other Yonko But other Yonko Have 30000+(big mom Probably have around 100000) Soldier and very big Fleet but shanks barely have 100+ Soldier
i agree even weak trio will be YC Level
nami already Have Zeus and wit Zeus if her attack is able to even scratch big mom let alone YC if she get normall level haki she will be able to defeat normal 3-4 YC
Chopper Monster Point Attack Power is Good he only need Haki
Brook fight big mom and he was way better than other YC against Yonko (he isn't as strong as YC) if he get Haki and Awakening he probanly wull be stronger than normal 2-3 Yonko Commander
And etc
nami already Have Zeus and wit Zeus if her attack is able to even scratch big mom let alone YC if she get normall level haki she will be able to defeat normal 3-4 YC
Chopper Monster Point Attack Power is Good he only need Haki
Brook fight big mom and he was way better than other YC against Yonko (he isn't as strong as YC) if he get Haki and Awakening he probanly wull be stronger than normal 2-3 Yonko Commander
And etc
Shanks crew has 7-8 main guys who apparently have high average, yc lvl bounty. If this is the case then his crew is twice as strong as a regular crew seeing how BM, WB & Kaido had only 3-4 people with high average bounties.
You literally stated no reason for your statement. Theres no reason to believe all Shank's fighters are YC lvl.
First - Shanks Is comparable to yonkou, then beckmann is stronger than any YC1
Second - Shanks is the weakest yonkou, then beckman is similar to any YC1..
While, WG said about RHP was after WB death... So it could be not much thing.
But, the possibility that RHP have more YC is here:
1 YC1 Or 1 YC
2 YC2 Or 1 YC2
3 YC3 or 1 YC3
................4 YC4
Or etc
Second - Shanks is the weakest yonkou, then beckman is similar to any YC1..
While, WG said about RHP was after WB death... So it could be not much thing.
But, the possibility that RHP have more YC is here:
1 YC1 Or 1 YC
2 YC2 Or 1 YC2
3 YC3 or 1 YC3
................4 YC4
Or etc
What you mean by "crew" ? just the top tiers or the whole thing ?like we know BP have 20k members + 10k Samurai mostly fodders obviously but u can't just ignore them.
I think it all depends if Shanks have actual control of some powerful territory like Erbaf in this case not twice as strong but quite above ,if he doesn't and in the 957 they meant to say "He have a rly strong & balanced crew but small" then no.... it may also be the weakest.....( Power > Strength and BM & Kaido have both , their crew is not as balanced cuz the gap between YCs and veterans is rly high but individually they have quite a lot of military power)
I think it all depends if Shanks have actual control of some powerful territory like Erbaf in this case not twice as strong but quite above ,if he doesn't and in the 957 they meant to say "He have a rly strong & balanced crew but small" then no.... it may also be the weakest.....( Power > Strength and BM & Kaido have both , their crew is not as balanced cuz the gap between YCs and veterans is rly high but individually they have quite a lot of military power)