Character Discussion Is V. Nasujuro even eligible for the WSS title?

I think there are three options:

- That Nasujuro is simply weaker than Mihawk.
- That Nasujuro is not a swordsman like King. Let's think that he has an awakened fruit and it is possible that it is strange and with strange powers like Saturn.
-He is a swordsman and stronger than Mihawk but since his power is unknown, he is effectively ineligible.

Show me the panel where it states CoC has nothing to do with creating a black blade.

Right now it's still a mystery. All we know is any blade can become a black blade and black blades are created or forged by users.
I don't have to show you a panel that says it has nothing to do with it. I've shown countless amounts of evidence that suggests CoA, while there is zero evidence to suggest CoC.

So if you want to argue with me that it's CoC and not CoA, then bring evidence to support the claim, because I have evidence to support my claim.

If I say, I think it's CoA because of X,Y and Z, you can't come back with, "It's not CoA, it's CoC, because there's no evidence to suggest it isn't CoC." That's not a counter argument.

And I know there is nothing concrete at the moment, but I am strictly speaking from a context and clues perspective, which is given by the manga. I have a foundation to base my claims. CoC has no foundation to stand on at the moment. I've never said "It's CoA and that's final." I'm arguing why it makes sense to be CoA, and why it doesn't make sense to be CoC. I could be wrong, and that's fine, but again, from what everything we know so far, the signs to point CoA.
I think you're both a little wrong. I don't know how a black blade is forged, whether with CoA, CoC or a combination of both, but it should not be exclusively Haki.

If it were only a matter of Haki, characters like Roger, Rayleigh and Shanks should have a Kokuto. Surely there is something else that we still don't know.
 
I think there are three options:

- That Nasujuro is simply weaker than Mihawk.
- That Nasujuro is not a swordsman like King. Let's think that he has an awakened fruit and it is possible that it is strange and with strange powers like Saturn.
-He is a swordsman and stronger than Mihawk but since his power is unknown, he is effectively ineligible.




I think you're both a little wrong. I don't know how a black blade is forged, whether with CoA, CoC or a combination of both, but it should not be exclusively Haki.

If it were only a matter of Haki, characters like Roger, Rayleigh and Shanks should have a Kokuto. Surely there is something else that we still don't know.
It could be either or, or both with me. To me all signs point to CoA. Until further information is released, I'm going off of what we currently know. If something happens in the manga that eludes to CoC, then I'd say yeah, CoC is now on the table. But for now, nothing points to it. The biggest red flag right now, is that the people of Wano don't know what CoC is, yet Hitetsu and Gyukimaru elude to knowing how a black blade is forged.
 


  • Even if you consider Roger and WB above Shanks. Mihawk already seeking someone above Shanks.
  • Black blade , Roger , Rocks , Shanks , none can pull it off , only ryuma did and he was fucking WG alone 100s of years ago.
  • Ryuma was called Sword God , Mihawk is Called World Strongest Swordsman. Both are the title given to them , neither of them claimed these.
  • So far neither of the title are fraud. WB at prime was the world strongest and above Roger. Kaido is the world strongest , Tbh I still don't see Luffy winning if they start fresh again. Given how Kizaru vs Luffy went , Kaido bonking the shit out of Luffy again.
  • Oda saving mihawk for the end because he's the end game material. It took us so long for Shanks attack , Gorosei introduction. Still we have nothing on mihawk.
  • His battle with shanks used to shake the whole new world.
You retard i asked for Roger and WB. Not shanks. He seeks someone above shanks cause shanks got his arm bitten off. There's nothing that indicates he's above Roger or WB in that statement. If he wanted someone stronger, he'd have already fucking fought WB back when WB was still in his prime or even before marine ford. Him testing WB in mf shows that he didn't know where wb was in relation to himself. So he fucking sat on his ass when there were potential stronger people out there.

Also, WB's title WSM just fucking outweighs Mihawks WSS title. So yeah. Try again.


Ryuma was called Sword God , Mihawk is Called World Strongest Swordsman. Both are the title given to them , neither of them claimed these.
And? What indication is there for Ryuma > Roger ? Wano citizens dickriding him? Ryuma is at best an unknown, and at worst equal to current goofy cause that's who the wano retards compared him to.
So far neither of the title are fraud. WB at prime was the world strongest and above Roger. Kaido is the world strongest , Tbh I still don't see Luffy winning if they start fresh again. Given how Kizaru vs Luffy went , Kaido bonking the shit out of Luffy again.
So, WB had WSM title. That just completely outweighs the WSS title cause Swordsmen are fucking MEN too you utter idiot. And you're using that fact to validate your shit headcanon of Mihawk>WB?

What the fuck have you been arguing with me for in this thread? You fucking said WB was the worlds strongest. The whole fucking thing i've been saying is WB a nd Roger at peak is Above mihawk you clown.

And the whole point of the arguments were since Mihawk had black blade and WB or Roger didn't, that put him above them. That's what you fuckers been saying here. But congratulations for being so retarded that you missed the whole point lol. You just admitted to WB> Mihawk.

Oda saving mihawk for the end because he's the end game material. It took us so long for Shanks attack , Gorosei introduction. Still we have nothing on mihawk.
Oda saving mihawk cause he's Zoro's end game. Not goofy's or not the story's. Zoro ain't strong enough yet. That's why he's saving mihawk.
His battle with shanks used to shake the whole new world.
A Yonko commander level shanks lmao. Oda uses hyperbole and exaggerations to hype up characters all the fucking time.

If you have ACTUAL instances in the fucking story to indicate Mihawk> Roger/WB etc, fucking bring it.

You see that words "interpret" and "probably" ? The jap fans are speculating shit just like us lmao. I thought you had some dialogue that the english translations omitted or some shit. But it's just some fucking fan speculation lol.

There was no mention of subordinates in that statement. And it's structured in a way that makes it seem it was about strength. I don't know where y'all are getting the subordinate shit from.

Where did i say that?
Hao lol. I been arguing with all y'all. But yes. Extreme z fans are arguin that mihawk black blade puts him above everyone without one.

Dude, Mihawk literally says that he wants to measure the "true distance" between Whitebeard & his enemies -> Uses an attack -> Stopped by Jozu.
Kizaru does the same -> Stopped by Marco -> followed by Marco saying "I can't have you taking the King right at the start..."

The entire scene was to introduce & hype Whitebeard's two subordinates.

Mihawk's statement is conjecture, he means that even though Whitebeard is a closer in distance, it ain't easy to get to him because he has able subordinates - which is why the question of "true distance" comes into play.
That's one interpretation my dude.


Kizaru didn't say shit about any distance or some shit did he? If you wanna go down the subordinate route, What does Mihawk sending a slash WB's way and getting it blocked by a mere subordinate mean? It looks like WB is above Mihawk and his subordinates are enough for him. That's what happens when you try to interpret shit like this for agendas.

What, did Mihawk not know WB would have his commanders to back him up or something? The true distance is more so framed as a matter of strength than it is a matter of bodies to go through. Mihawk wouldn't need an attack to know there would be commanders there. The slash was just used to hype up Jozu. but the statement is about the strength difference between WB and Mihawk/warlords.

It does because in your interpretation, he wasn't measuring himself against an old, sick Whitebeard.
This is his first time meeting Whitebeard EVER. All he has heard about the man was that he was the WSM so far.
So, why didn't mihawk fight WB then? WSM who uses a Naginata that is one of the 12 supreme grade swords. If Mihawk needs to test WB's strength, then WB at some point was above Mihawk. Do you at least agree to that?

And that same WB used to fight Roger equally. So he's above Mihawk too. Thus, black blade =/= above Roger and WB.

All this for an argument that i never argued in the first place... :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

And it's really funny that you compare a DF user like Whitebeard with the most destructive DFs in the series to make your point about Swordsmen & Black Blades though lol.
Did Roger have a df? A black blade? Yet he fought WB equally.
This tells me all I need to know.

WSM & WSC are no different from WSS - all 3 are WS titles yet two of those are looked at with Rose tinted glasses & one is downplayed despite it being an MC's dream literally... funny how that works.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THREE IS CONDITIONAL. AND THE OTHER TWO AUTOMATICALLY IS ABOVE WSS BECAUSE OF THEIR INCLUSION OF MIHAWK AS A MAN AND A CREATURE.

I don't really give a shit about titles. I think they're all just hype tools. But WSM and WSC by definition includes any dude that uses a sword in their evaluation lol. It's not like Mihawk ain't a man or a creature right? So, WSM and WSC is highly inclusive and doesn't matter whatever shit their opponents use and are. But WSS is very conditional in that we don't even know who qualifies as a swordsman.

In wano, King uses swords yet zoro tells says he ain't a swordsman cause king doesn't think he is one lol.

This is not about WSS debates. It's about black blades and whether Roger and WB not having them means they are below Mihawk or not. I don't think they're below him. I've made my points. Many of you, not you specifically, argue that he is above them. I disagree and the story itself also does.

So, what do you think Conq? Since you asked this

Where did i say that?

I assume you don't think he's above them either? Then why have you been arguing with me ?

lol
 

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The Rogue Prince
So, why didn't mihawk fight WB then? WSM who uses a Naginata that is one of the 12 supreme grade swords. If Mihawk needs to test WB's strength, then WB at some point was above Mihawk. Do you at least agree to that?
Very simple, the only time he met him was when WB was a shell of his former self.

Kizaru didn't say shit about any distance or some shit did he?
I never said he did.
I said he - as per Marco's words - 'went for the King' just like Mihawk did.

If you wanna go down the subordinate route, What does Mihawk sending a slash WB's way and getting it blocked by a mere subordinate mean? It looks like WB is above Mihawk and his subordinates are enough for him. That's what happens when you try to interpret shit like this for agendas.
:kaidowhat:

Take off the agenda glasses for a second and read the entire scene for once.

That entire scene was written to HYPE Marco's & Jozu's entrances into the War -> which literally follows with the next two Double Page spreads.
Mihawk wasn't "testing" Whitebeard, he was testing how far Marco & Jozu would go to fight for Whitebeard. Hence why "the true distance" is talked about, because even if Whitebeard was close - you can't easily gang up on him because he has a able crew.

What, did Mihawk not know WB would have his commanders to back him up or something? The true distance is more so framed as a matter of strength than it is a matter of bodies to go through. Mihawk wouldn't need an attack to know there would be commanders there. The slash was just used to hype up Jozu. but the statement is about the strength difference between WB and Mihawk/warlords.
:milaugh:

It was well known that Whitebeard has commanders, it's about whether they are competent enough.
All this mental gymanstics from a simple sentence which was meant to hype the introduction of Marco & Jozu... truly sad lmfao.

So, what do you think Conq? Since you asked this
We won't know for sure until we finally get what makes a Blade into a Black Sword.
All i know is Mihawk is canonically superior to Shanks, who i consider as basically One Armed Roger. :kayneshrug:
One of the only 3 Top Tiers that Oda introduced in East Blue - in iconic chapters (1/50/100).

Then why have you been arguing with me ?
Because i saw unnecessary and bad faith Mihawk slander?
 
It could be either or, or both with me. To me all signs point to CoA. Until further information is released, I'm going off of what we currently know. If something happens in the manga that eludes to CoC, then I'd say yeah, CoC is now on the table. But for now, nothing points to it. The biggest red flag right now, is that the people of Wano don't know what CoC is, yet Hitetsu and Gyukimaru elude to knowing how a black blade is forged.
Depends. If we talk about rarity and Kokuto are extremely rare, CoC comes to mind.

Of course this is pure speculation, I think it will be both things and something else that we don't know.

There are many high-level CoA and CoC users and few Kokuto. There has to be something more than just Haki.
 
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You retard i asked for Roger and WB. Not shanks. He seeks someone above shanks cause shanks got his arm bitten off. There's nothing that indicates he's above Roger or WB in that statement. If he wanted someone stronger, he'd have already fucking fought WB back when WB was still in his prime or even before marine ford. Him testing WB in mf shows that he didn't know where wb was in relation to himself. So he fucking sat on his ass when there were potential stronger people out there.

Also, WB's title WSM just fucking outweighs Mihawks WSS title. So yeah. Try again.
You fuckin clown , His hands changed nothing According to oda. Accept it or not , Shanks is a Yonkou tier character and mihawk isn't seeking someone Slightly stronger than Shanks , he's simply looking for a tier difference , and who are at that time difference ? Roger and WB , that's it. How tf mihawk would have WB in his prime when he himself wasn't at his prime at that time? Are you retarded or something?
He didn't say on his ass when there were potentially stronger people out there , he simply didn't bother to fight people weaker than him. Old beard was weaker than him , Kaido already show his top 5 and shanks was one of them , and mihawk > Shanks is Canon you fuckin clown. How is any one stronger than him then?

Again your Ass canon lmao. There are clear indication on WSS is above all the title at this point and you still won't accept it because it doesn't follow your Headcanon.


And? What indication is there for Ryuma > Roger ? Wano citizens dickriding him? Ryuma is at best an unknown, and at worst equal to current goofy cause that's who the wano retards compared him to.
See the Roger Dick riding again?
Give me a indication you fuckin clown on , Roger > Kaidou , Roger > Whitebeard. When it comes to Joyboy y'all wank him to sky , even while knowing that mf lost.
Ryuma stood against the whole WG , Alone , No crew or anything , And fended off Enemies. And came down as a legend.
And your Ass thinks , he's comparable to Current goofy , I mean do you even use your brain or not? , they compared their achievements , Of liberating wano , not strength wise , nobody in current wano knows the strength of Ryuma , it was simply a statement from some random nobody in one panel. Zoro got compared to ryuma as well ? Should I wank him to God tier now? Your logic are beyond what a child would made. You talk like people who believes Buggy is actually stronger than crocodile because one piece news says so.


So, WB had WSM title. That just completely outweighs the WSS title cause Swordsmen are fucking MEN too you utter idiot. And you're using that fact to validate your shit headcanon of Mihawk>WB?

What the fuck have you been arguing with me for in this thread? You fucking said WB was the worlds strongest. The whole fucking thing i've been saying is WB a nd Roger at peak is Above mihawk you clown.

And the whole point of the arguments were since Mihawk had black blade and WB or Roger didn't, that put him above them. That's what you fuckers been saying here. But congratulations for being so retarded that you missed the whole point lol. You just admitted to WB> Mihawk.
I'm convinced you can't read at this point.
I still stand by my fact clown.

WB at prime was the world strongest and above Roger. Kaido is the world strongest , Tbh I still don't see Luffy winning if they start fresh again. Given how Kizaru vs Luffy went , Kaido bonking the shit out of Luffy again.

This is what I said , WB at his prime , which is years ago , Mihawk didn't hit his Prime at this point. You saw Mihawk at Roger funeral , you think he was at prime at that time ? OMG do you seriously believe Mihawk is prime since the time he held the sword or something?
You totally missed the point , World strongest kept changing every decade. That was the point made here , these people never lived in the same era to even begin with to be compared. I compared how titles from different era are never fraudulent.

And I still say that you fuckin clown , Mihawk > Roger and whitebeard , because neither of them achieved Black blade and mihawk ... When did I go back on it.

I explained you how timeline worked , I never admitted or qouted on prime Mihawk is weaker than Prime Whitebeard you clown. Get Roger Dick out of your so that you can read atleast.



Oda saving mihawk cause he's Zoro's end game. Not goofy's or not the story's. Zoro ain't strong enough yet. That's why he's saving mihawk.
Neither is Gorosei or Shanks , it's BB or Imu.
Its simply oda way of hyping up the character. More we wait more greatness to expect. Shanks one shotted kid. Shanks isn't Luffy endgame either. Then why take this long you clown? WB , Roger , Rocks arsenal is missing as well , they aren't there for endgame either.... They are simply strong and that's why oda still hasn't shown anything of them.


A Yonko commander level shanks lmao. Oda uses hyperbole and exaggerations to hype up characters all the fucking time.

If you have ACTUAL instances in the fucking story to indicate Mihawk> Roger/WB etc, fucking bring it.
I have already said it.
You fuckin clown.

You're the one dick riding by the fact , Roger/WB and Shanks have a tier gap between. They are simply Slightly stronger than them , that's it. There isn't a tier gap their.

Mihawk is seeking someone stronger than Shanks , Because he's way past his level already.

All of three of them are supreme grade blad user and only one of them managed to turn it into Black blade.
Its mihawk , strongest blade known to mankind currently. Your Whitebeard and Roger couldn't achieve that shit , why? Because they were simply not strong enough like mihawk.

Mihawk Dialogue to Zoro of , I'll be waiting for you sitting at the top of the world. Do you understand the meaning of that clown ? Don't bring up shit like his talking about swordsmanship here , they ain't turning off haki and clashing iron bars there.

To the matter of fact his bounty is enough evidence on how strong he is. Why do you think he's bounty is higher than buggy when , they consider Buggy as superior?
Because after factoring everything he's at 3.1B only. Mihawk being higher is because that's his Frozen bounty , they simply unfreezed it , there's no Bounty hike for him.

And bounty simply for being strong , that too 3.6 B , just 400 Mil less than Yonkou who commands A fuckin fleet , their territories, strong people below them , "threat to WG because they trying to find one piece" , mihawk has none.

WG is simply scared of his strength. And when he reached peak , he decided to live in peace until a character shows up who can actually put on a fight for him. It was Zoro.


You explain me why mihawk got 3.6B , higher than buggy while being in the same organisation and buggy seen as the head of it. Neva mind explanation. You tell me that !
You have got no answer to that. Because Mihawk don't function like average Yonkou crew , he function alone. Add territory and crew to mihawk side and actual sense of Threat to WG because to ancient history and watch his bounty surpassing 5 B.

Titles aren't fraudulent in one piece , you simply dick ride Roger that's it lol.
Also mihawk wasn't scared of yonkou , He clearly mentioned going against all of them is clownary and it is. Nobody is strong enough to take on two Yonkou at once , not even your Roger-Chan.

One on one , Mihawk takes the win against Current Yonkou easily.
 
Narratively this is my mindset for Mihawk

Making your own Black blade is probably a crazy power up, cause Oda felt more comfortable giving Zoro ACoC before a BB.

Oda has been saving up Mihawks first named attack for longer then any other character in the series.

Everyone else with a WS title is top 5-6 all time

Oda's very clear Zoro bias

These all seem like narrative hints he is insane.
 
Headcanon lol.
Mihawk seeks challenge not weak people.
If Old beard was stronger than him
He would have fought him lmao.
Your Two Piece Mihawk is certainly different than Oda's, since One Piece Mihawk runs away from anyone YC and above, one of the first things we learnt about him is that he sneak attacked Krieg and hunted him all the way from the Grand Line.
 
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The bald Gorosei is even weaker than Old Whitebeard, and even Old Rayleigh. At most, the bald Gorosei is a mid top-tier (at most).
 
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Your Two Piece Mihawk is certainly different than Oda's, since One Piece Mihawk runs away from anyone YC and above, one of the first things we learnt about him is that he sneak attacked Krieg and hunted him all the way from the Grand Line.
Lmao who's alt is this
 
Why should you believe what other fans are saying?

Oda never wrote or said Mihawk spoke about subordinates there.
The statement wasn't about subordinates.
Testing gap between wb and them isn't about "if the subordinates will protect him"

You guys are quoting sandman as if he is talking about facts
"Many JAPANESE FANS THINK/INTERPRET IT.." they're also coping just like you guys
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Very simple, the only time he met him was when WB was a shell of his former self.


I never said he did.
I said he - as per Marco's words - 'went for the King' just like Mihawk did.


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Take off the agenda glasses for a second and read the entire scene for once.

That entire scene was written to HYPE Marco's & Jozu's entrances into the War -> which literally follows with the next two Double Page spreads.
Mihawk wasn't "testing" Whitebeard, he was testing how far Marco & Jozu would go to fight for Whitebeard. Hence why "the true distance" is talked about, because even if Whitebeard was close - you can't easily gang up on him because he has a able crew.


:milaugh:

It was well known that Whitebeard has commanders, it's about whether they are competent enough.
All this mental gymanstics from a simple sentence which was meant to hype the introduction of Marco & Jozu... truly sad lmfao.


We won't know for sure until we finally get what makes a Blade into a Black Sword.
All i know is Mihawk is canonically superior to Shanks, who i consider as basically One Armed Roger. :kayneshrug:
One of the only 3 Top Tiers that Oda introduced in East Blue - in iconic chapters (1/50/100).


Because i saw unnecessary and bad faith Mihawk slander?
:milaugh:"Mihawk wasn't testing the gap between he and wb but to see how far..."

Copium bases on Japanese fans copium

:suresure:it went from distance in km to subordinates helping wb

You're the one making up mental gymnastics
Oda didn't make Minawk say thay to hype Marco and jozu, coz Marco and jozu voicing those attacks just proves how weak Mihaqk is compared to WB that his attack came even reach sickbeard

"The gap between us and that man"
Not "how can his men can protect him based on the distance"
 
NGL that sounds pretty boring and "circlejerky" for lack of a better term. He's WSS, and nobody can contend for it except Zoro. (the person who trained under him)

That is boring. (To me)
I'd agree if Oda didn't say that Mihawk has no more worthy challengers left and he's looking for someone stronger than Shanks to arrive.

There's no one currently alive that can contend for it, unless Oda decide to bring someone from the past back, its only gonna be Zoro who he loses to
 
There's no one currently alive that can contend for it,
I think you guys are misunderstanding something here

of course there are people who CAN CONTEND for the title… for example Shanks can wake up one day and decide he wants the title and go fight Mihawk… that in itself is a “contention”… contention doesn’t mean the person mihawk fights can beat him… It means the person mihawk fights wants to beat him and tries to do it… Also let’s not forget things like Haki blooms exist in this universe where someone wcan start a fight weaker than someone else and just haki bloom mid fight and ended up stronger than them and winning

Shanks doesn’t contend for the title because Oda wrote him to NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT… And this applies to the entire OP universe… even swordsmen who know and respect Mihawk DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CONTENDING such as Vista.

no one in the verse cares about this title and so no one wants to obtain it.

and this is a failing on Oda’s writing… Oda is unable or unwilling to write a character that cares about this title so it ends up as one of worst aspects of Oda’s world building in the story

It’s fascinating the difference between WSS and other titles like WSM and WSC… The difference is that there is an in-built mechanism for how the WSS title works and gets passed on, whereas there is none for WSM or WSC… when Whitebeard died and Kaido was defeated, we stopped hearing about the WSM and WSC titles… literally no one has ever mentioned those titles since… even in the flashbacks of young whitebeard and young Kaido we are never shown how or why they have those titles

whereas it’s impossible for Oda to write a Mihawk flashback without going into detail about how he obtained the title… If Mihawk were to die or be defeated in whatever manner, it’s impossible for the story to just decide never to mention the WSS title ever again like how WSM or WSC titles were

So Oda is in this situation where HE MUST address this title no matter what and yet at the same time he CLEARLY DOESNT CARE HIMSELF… he has put exactly zero energy into trying to incorporate the mechanics of this title into his world building because he doesn’t want to

And so his supreme laziness regarding this is what has led to the existence of threads like this
 
That entire scene was written to HYPE Marco's & Jozu's entrances into the War -> which literally follows with the next two Double Page spreads.
Mihawk wasn't "testing" Whitebeard, he was testing how far Marco & Jozu would go to fight for Whitebeard. Hence why "the true distance" is talked about, because even if Whitebeard was close - you can't easily gang up on him because he has a able crew.


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It was well known that Whitebeard has commanders, it's about whether they are competent enough.
All this mental gymanstics from a simple sentence which was meant to hype the introduction of Marco & Jozu... truly sad lmfao.
Ironic, it was clear that the “distance” Mihawk was referring to is strength. The legendary WB, what can my slash do to him? - Oh it didn’t even reach him
That entire moment was meant to hype up WB, not his commanders. It was meant to put him on a pedestal.

I’ve only heard of coping from Mihawk fans ever since this dropped, everybody else without a Mihawk bias interprets it the way it should be.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Ironic, it was clear that the “distance” Mihawk was referring to is strength. The legendary WB, what can my slash do to him? - Oh it didn’t even reach him
That entire moment was meant to hype up WB, not his commanders. It was meant to put him on a pedestal.

I’ve only heard of coping from Mihawk fans ever since this dropped, everybody else without a Mihawk bias interprets it the way it should be.
What happens in the scene right after he says the statement - the following two double page spreads? Does WB show off his power or does Marco & Jozu get introduced?
 
I think you guys are misunderstanding something here

of course there are people who CAN CONTEND for the title… for example Shanks can wake up one day and decide he wants the title and go fight Mihawk… that in itself is a “contention”… contention doesn’t mean the person mihawk fights can beat him… It means the person mihawk fights wants to beat him and tries to do it… Also let’s not forget things like Haki blooms exist in this universe where someone wcan start a fight weaker than someone else and just haki bloom mid fight and ended up stronger than them and winning

Shanks doesn’t contend for the title because Oda wrote him to NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT… And this applies to the entire OP universe… even swordsmen who know and respect Mihawk DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CONTENDING such as Vista.

no one in the verse cares about this title and so no one wants to obtain it.

and this is a failing on Oda’s writing… Oda is unable or unwilling to write a character that cares about this title so it ends up as one of worst aspects of Oda’s world building in the story

It’s fascinating the difference between WSS and other titles like WSM and WSC… The difference is that there is an in-built mechanism for how the WSS title works and gets passed on, whereas there is none for WSM or WSC… when Whitebeard died and Kaido was defeated, we stopped hearing about the WSM and WSC titles… literally no one has ever mentioned those titles since… even in the flashbacks of young whitebeard and young Kaido we are never shown how or why they have those titles

whereas it’s impossible for Oda to write a Mihawk flashback without going into detail about how he obtained the title… If Mihawk were to die or be defeated in whatever manner, it’s impossible for the story to just decide never to mention the WSS title ever again like how WSM or WSC titles were

So Oda is in this situation where HE MUST address this title no matter what and yet at the same time he CLEARLY DOESNT CARE HIMSELF… he has put exactly zero energy into trying to incorporate the mechanics of this title into his world building because he doesn’t want to

And so his supreme laziness regarding this is what has led to the existence of threads like this
Summarise this into 1 sentence :kriwhat:
 
What happens in the scene right after he says the statement - the following two double page spreads? Does WB show off his power or does Marco & Jozu get introduced?
This is pointless
Since Mihawk was testing WB not Marco and Vista

He didn't care about them, if he wanted to test them he'd say it " i wanna see how far his men can guard him"
Not "I wanna see the true gap between us and that man'

Ironic, it was clear that the “distance” Mihawk was referring to is strength. The legendary WB, what can my slash do to him? - Oh it didn’t even reach him
That entire moment was meant to hype up WB, not his commanders. It was meant to put him on a pedestal.

I’ve only heard of coping from Mihawk fans ever since this dropped, everybody else without a Mihawk bias interprets it the way it should be.
It's just pure cope,
They can't accept that Mihawk is under sickbeard and Yonko, also admirals.

Yet they're the same ones saying GB is below Kaido and Shanks because he said "I can't ever come to wano if kaido is around"
They deny statements that doesn't suit their agenda
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
This is pointless
Since Mihawk was testing WB not Marco and Vista

He didn't care about them, if he wanted to test them he'd say it " i wanna see how far his men can guard him"
Not "I wanna see the true gap between us and that man'
He said he wants to measure the "true distance" between that man and us - meaning even though WB was close, he wasn't really easy to attack because he has able subordinates. Which is what happened in the next two pages of the manga.

Idc for your nonsense tbh.
 
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