Character Discussion Is Zoro equal to Luffy in both portrayal and strength wise
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I understand the importance of Armament haki in the series. I just don't think that Mihawk having strong Armament haki dictates that he must remain equal or stronger than all potential/future opponents of Luffy. I'll exclude Im since there's not enough of him but regarding, Mihawk, I don't think he has to remain equal to, let's say, Blackbeard when the time for Luffy to face him comes. But since there's no way of telling for sure I'll agree that Mihawk being equal to Akainu, Blackbeard and other future Luffy opponent is completely reasonable. Was just curious if you thought Zoro would face any other strong opponents.
Regarding the questions, Law beat Vergo due to having good armament haki which was on par or better than Vergo's, on top of his fruit. Law lost to Doffy due to over-reliance on his fruit and not being able to match Doffy in other aspects, including mastery of/creativity when it comes to their devil fruit (Doflamingo repairing his organs after being hit with Gamma Knife) as well as haki usage. Luffy beat Doflamingo due to superior armament haki that he implemented into his fighting style to compliment his devil fruit, that boosted all his stats.
Regarding the questions, Law beat Vergo due to having good armament haki which was on par or better than Vergo's, on top of his fruit. Law lost to Doffy due to over-reliance on his fruit and not being able to match Doffy in other aspects, including mastery of/creativity when it comes to their devil fruit (Doflamingo repairing his organs after being hit with Gamma Knife) as well as haki usage. Luffy beat Doflamingo due to superior armament haki that he implemented into his fighting style to compliment his devil fruit, that boosted all his stats.
My current stance would be simply Blackbeard > Mihawk. Because two Devil Fruits. However, in MF, WB criticized Teech on his reliance on DF and arrogance. This is a disparity between him and Mihawk. Mihawk seems to acknowledge everyone with a name. And Teechs Darkness Fruit doesn’t counter or affect Mihawk whatsoever.
Until further information, Teech >= Mihawk. This is a very fair assumption. And I will never say that Zoro’s end goal is a more difficult fight than Luffys. Luffy simply fights ppl stronger. That’s that. HOWEVER, Luffy always requires help in his fights. If Luffy doesn’t solo Blackbeard then I have no choice to say Zoro > Luffys end progression fight. Knowing Oda that will be the most likely case.
Until further information, Teech >= Mihawk. This is a very fair assumption. And I will never say that Zoro’s end goal is a more difficult fight than Luffys. Luffy simply fights ppl stronger. That’s that. HOWEVER, Luffy always requires help in his fights. If Luffy doesn’t solo Blackbeard then I have no choice to say Zoro > Luffys end progression fight. Knowing Oda that will be the most likely case.
Strength maybe, at least pre time skip this was for sure debatable and now that we saw him do as well as G4 Luffy vs Kaido and BM this can be brought up again (at least until there are new feats). About portrayal nope, and I'm also a Zoro fan, Luffy is the captain while Zoro is his suppoert and pillar ready to sacrifice himself for his captain dream and his crew plus it is Luffy who gets all the light all the time, Zoro is always in the shadows portrayal wise compared to Luffy (who is also Roger's inheritor, Shanks as well, already recognized as a pseudo yonko etc. etc. has topt ier abilities like voat and coc).
Yes, Luffy and Zoro have equal portrayal and strength. Now, that doesn't mean that they're always equal 100% of the time. Sometimes Luffy is stronger while other times Zoro is stronger. But overall they are equal.
Oda told us they are equal during Zoro's encounter with Kuma.
Kuma allowed Zoro to exchange his head for Luffy's head.
There was one condition before he considered Zoro to be an equal exchange for Luffy. Zoro had to handle all of Luffy fatigue. He fought Zoro so he knows Zoro's strength and he now knows Zoro's ambitioun.
Yes, Oda is telling us that Zoro, the future WSS, is equal to Luffy, the future Pirate King.
There it is. So anybody who wants to claim Kid and Law are stronger than Zoro and have greater portrayal than him is wrong. No, it hasn't changed since the time skip.
Oda told us they are equal during Zoro's encounter with Kuma.
Kuma allowed Zoro to exchange his head for Luffy's head.
There was one condition before he considered Zoro to be an equal exchange for Luffy. Zoro had to handle all of Luffy fatigue. He fought Zoro so he knows Zoro's strength and he now knows Zoro's ambitioun.
Yes, Oda is telling us that Zoro, the future WSS, is equal to Luffy, the future Pirate King.
There it is. So anybody who wants to claim Kid and Law are stronger than Zoro and have greater portrayal than him is wrong. No, it hasn't changed since the time skip.
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