Character Discussion Is Zoro nerfed?

[style]

There a couple of answers that needs to be answered.

Is Zoro nerfed because he's not using Enma at full power like on the Rooftop? It seems so

Is Zoro nerfed because he has not fully recovered? Unclear so far, we wait for the next chapters for a definitive answer

Is Zoro nerfed because King's ability might be a counter for swordsmen? Same as above

 

[Adam-san]

Couldn't find one of Ronaldo so Messi will have to do

Why ronaldo when messi is the Goat

 

[Patryipe]

Aint no way dude stood against two yonkos and told kaido i will cut your head but says he cant win vs King, is he nerfed for the plot?

No lol.

 

[Finalbeta]

Aint no way dude stood against two yonkos and told kaido i will cut your head but says he cant win vs King, is he nerfed for the plot?

Pretty much I guess, at least stamina wise. He arguably never properly recovered from the time the rooftop fight ended.

 

[Malio]

Why ronaldo when messi is the Goat

Fabrizio Romano confirmed this 🤷🏾‍♂️

 

[Finalbeta]

Fabrizio Romano confirmed this 🤷🏾‍♂️

Fabrizio Romano lol

 

[Adam-san]

Fabrizio Romano confirmed this 🤷🏾‍♂️

idc what he says messi is the greatest of all time.

 

[Malio]

idc what he says messi is the greatest of all time.

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Fabrizio Romano lol

Here We Go!

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Why you keep lying

Zoro didn't sneak Kaido even a single time.

> Oni giri- Kaido was looking straight at Zoro and Killer...even tried blocking.
>Dragon blaze- Kaido looking straight at Zoro again
>Tatsumaki- Zoro alerting Kaido by telling him not to eat his captain
>Asura- Zoro alerting Kaido again by telling him not to kill his captain

But but Zoro sneaked Kaido throughout the fight...Delusion

Oni Giri was two people attacking at the same time.

Law teleported Zoro to Kaido's location while he was in the middle of attacking Luffy with Boro Breath. Then Zoro attacked and missed.

Zoro was in the middle of launching Dragon Twister as Kaido noticed it at the last second. Prior to that Kaido was focused on Luffy.

Didn't deny Asura.

Bu.. But... Kaido noticed at the last second so it doesn't count as a sneak attack.... It's not like One Piece characters are insanely fast, where the difference between having .01 and 1 second of preparation matters a lot.

 

[Geo]

Oni Giri was two people attacking at the same time.

Law teleported Zoro to Kaido's location while he was in the middle of attacking Luffy with Boro Breath. Then Zoro attacked and missed.

Zoro was in the middle of launching Dragon Twister as Kaido noticed it at the last second. Prior to that Kaido was focused on Luffy.

Didn't deny Asura.

Bu.. But... Kaido noticed at the last second so it doesn't count as a sneak attack.... It's not like One Piece characters are insanely fast, where the difference between having .01 and 1 second of preparation matters a lot.

Continuous dishonesty.
What does two people attacking Kaido who was fully aware and trying to guard have to do with you claiming that Zoro SNEAKED him...

Law teleported Zoro to intercept Boro breath. Zoro never attacked Kaido there.
Zoro went on to use his own move with Kaido clearly looking at him...so show where the "Sneaked" is

Zoro alerted Kaido, then Kaido noticed Zoro preparing an attack and Kaido had enough time to even wonder what the strange haki is....where is the "sneaked" in there?

Yet Asura is no different than those listed above. Zoro calls out Kaido, Kaido notices, them Zoro attacks.
Try a better form of downplay

You have only proven that either;
1. You don't know what SNEAK means
2. Your bias made you delusional to think those situations are sneak attacks
3. Both

 

[Finalbeta]

Wait do some really affirm that Kaido wasn't prepared when Zoro launched his Asura attack?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Continuous dishonesty.
What does two people attacking Kaido who was fully aware and trying to guard have to do with you claiming that Zoro SNEAKED him...

Law teleported Zoro to intercept Boro breath. Zoro never attacked Kaido there.
Zoro went on to use his own move with Kaido clearly looking at him...so show where the "Sneaked" is

Zoro alerted Kaido, then Kaido noticed Zoro preparing an attack and Kaido had enough time to even wonder what the strange haki is....where is the "sneaked" in there?

Yet Asura is no different than those listed above. Zoro calls out Kaido, Kaido notices, them Zoro attacks.
Try a better form of downplay

You have only proven that either;
1. You don't know what SNEAK means
2. Your bias made you delusional to think those situations are sneak attacks
3. Both

The whole point is that outside of Asura, it was never a straight 1 v 1 for Zoro when it came to Kaido.

Double team with the Killer situation.

Both Oni Giri and Tatsumaki were sneak attacks, no matter how much you you want to deny it. Noticing at the last second doesn't disqualify it from being exactly that.

Asura was no where near the same, as Zoro approached Kaido, Kaido acknowledged his attack prior, and met the attack head on. Neither Tatsumaki or Dragon Blaze is similar to that.

Show me an instance outside of Asura where Kaido was solely focused on Zoro and no one else, where Zoro got the upperhand. It's made even worse in the few instances where Zoro had a showing against Kaido it was when he was in base form, and his slow ass Dragon form.

You guys love to pretend like Zoro had these amazing 1 v 1 feats against Kaido on the rooftop, when it was infact only one, and Zoro needed Asura + CoC to pull if off for just a few seconds. Double teaming Base Kaido with killer, missing an attack on an off guard Island sized Dragon, and landing an attack on an off guard Island sized dragon are not amazing 1 v 1 feats.

And this is the BS you guys use to try and elevate King.

Let Zoro try and use any of his attacks outside Asura + CoC to try and match a Thunder Bagua, and see how well that works out for him.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Oda is nerfing him pretty hard

He was way way stronger on the rooftop

 

[Jack D. Jobber]

1000 chapters in and people still don't understand matchups alright

 

[Geo]

The whole point is that outside of Asura, it was never a straight 1 v 1 for Zoro when it came to Kaido.

Double team with the Killer situation.

Both Oni Giri and Tatsumaki were sneak attacks, no matter how much you you want to deny it. Noticing at the last second doesn't disqualify it from being exactly that.

Asura was no where near the same, as Zoro approached Kaido, Kaido acknowledged his attack prior, and met the attack head on. Neither Tatsumaki or Dragon Blaze is similar to that.

Show me an instance outside of Asura where Kaido was solely focused on Zoro and no one else, where Zoro got the upperhand. It's made even worse in the few instances where Zoro had a showing against Kaido it was when he was in base form, and his slow ass Dragon form.

You guys love to pretend like Zoro had these amazing 1 v 1 feats against Kaido on the rooftop, when it was infact only one, and Zoro needed Asura + CoC to pull if off for just a few seconds. Double teaming Base Kaido with killer, missing an attack on an off guard Island sized Dragon, and landing an attack on an off guard Island sized dragon are not amazing 1 v 1 feats.

And this is the BS you guys use to try and elevate King.

Let Zoro try and use any of his attacks outside Asura + CoC to try and match a Thunder Bagua, and see how well that works out for him.

Nobody said it was a 1 v 1. You claimed that he sneaked Kaido in rooftop battle which is blatantly false

Double team with the Killer situation.

Both Oni Giri and Tatsumaki were sneak attacks, no matter how much you you want to deny it. Noticing at the last second doesn't disqualify it from being exactly that.

Double team =\= sneak attack

I've already proven you wrong. In neither of those case did Kaido "notice at the last second"

Asura was no where near the same, as Zoro approached Kaido, Kaido acknowledged his attack prior, and met the attack head on. Neither Tatsumaki or Dragon Blaze is similar to that.

Kaido didn't acknowledge anything prior. Zoro called him and next panel he was in his face overpowering and cutting him.
Tatsumaki- Zoro called Kaido out and next panel he was in his face overpowering his tornadoes and cutting him

Show me an instance outside of Asura where Kaido was solely focused on Zoro and no one else, where Zoro got the upperhand. It's made even worse in the few instances where Zoro had a showing against Kaido it was when he was in base form, and his slow ass Dragon form.

Don't move the goal post. We are talking about "sneak attacks".
Every time Zoro was in Kaido's face, Kaido was focused on him

You guys love to pretend like Zoro had these amazing 1 v 1 feats against Kaido on the rooftop, when it was infact only one, and Zoro needed Asura + CoC to pull if off for just a few seconds. Double teaming Base Kaido with killer, missing an attack on an off guard Island sized Dragon, and landing an attack on an off guard Island sized dragon are not amazing 1 v 1 feats.

No you like to pretend that you have a valid point when it is blatant falsehoods.

Proving my point again...how can Kaido be off guard when Zoro was calling him out right in his face with Kaido noticing Zoro then getting cut?

And this is the BS you guys use to try and elevate King.

This coming from the guy who thought Zoro's milestone will be cutting Queen of all people.
I know how biased you've been against Zoro before , during and after rooftop battle
I only came to disprove the blatant falsehoods of sneak attack. Whatever you have concerning King is irrelevant to my point

 

[Adam-san]

Oda is nerfing him pretty hard

He was way way stronger on the rooftop

when he had 4 guys backing him up.
bunch of fan service too
real fights with meaning started after 1010.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

when he had 4 guys backing him up.
bunch of fan service too
real fights with meaning started after 1010.

What fan service lol ?

 

[Gintoki]

Enma shriveled up his arm and is causing him massive pain he's also under a time limit zoro is always nerfed in some way in 1v1s where he struggles this is nothing we haven't seen before.

Nah, zolo is at 100% at the start of his fight with King

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Pre Udon Luffy King kong gatling made Kaido Fall and did 0 damage, retards still with brain dead argument , Kaido never defeated Zoro , it was Kaido + Big Mom

and pre-Enma zolo will literally deal negative damage to Kaido lmao

 

[Date]

Imagine if Zoro had to fight in the rooftop without Enma 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Adam-san]

Imagine if Zoro had to fight in the rooftop without Enma 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

oof.