Its kinda hard to not be toxic as a Zoro fan

#1
A lot of times I go I'll be nice and chill when I log into this forum but then I see shit and maybe its a result of bias YouTubers or massive population of Sanji fans on both Oro Jackson and here but since day one I joined these forums this is how things have progressed.

I joined Oro Jackson because I started searching on the internet
"Will Zoro get Conqueror's Haki"
As a casual fan I never considered Sanji and Zoro thing as anything but random gags and that was opinion among my friends as well. No one was live "Zoro and Sanji" cuz muh rivals but then I started seeing shit on Oro Jackson like

"Zoro can't have Conqueror's Haki because if Zoro gets it Sanji gets it too because they are rivals"
And I was wtf is he talking about.

Then I joined Oro Jackson and people were talking shit and making fun for even suggesting Luffy and Zoro are close.
At the time it Dressrosa arc had just ended and most on Oro Jackson was like
Sanji and Zoro are very close and Zoro gets mid diffed by Luffy
And anytime I would suggest its the opposite, people would talk shit, insult etc.

Then we fast forwarded to Wano Arc and turns out Zoro only with one power up was doing better than Luffy with three power ups and three huge power ups against two Yonkou.

Not only was it apparently that Zoro was close to Luffy, Zoro more than likely was much stronger than Luffy coming out of time skip.

But before even that
People made fun of us for even suggesting Zoro would fight Kaido

Zoro fighst Kaido and people started with
Zoro will do no better than killer. Luffy Law and Kidd will take all the shine

Then chapter 1002 Happened, and people shat their pants

Then came damage control
Then it all became about Enma
-Oden's Haki
-Enma > Zoro

-Its not Zoro its Oden
-Oden
-Oden

Then Zoro blocks Hakai, Enma damage control can't work anymore
-He only blocked it for a second
-Law helped him
-Not impressive

He went through by far the strongest attack in the series, even characters in manga were impressed but instead of giving Zoro props
It was all about
-How many seconds he blocked it for?
-How Law helped him
-Not impressive

Then with 30 broken bones, Zoro becomes second only person to permanently scar Kaido
-Then it all became about Kaido not dropping on his back
-Paper Cut
-Not as deep as Oden

It was supposed to be a big feat, Kaido praised it and said Zoro's wound will scar Kaido when to Scabbards he said it won't even open old scar. COMBINED attack from 5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers won't even open old scar.

But no lets focus on downplaying

Then Zoro explains Enma is all his Haki
Should I Regulate my Haki

People shit their pants but then straight up denying like that dialogue doesn't even exist

People still mention Oden's Haki

Then Zoro unlocks advanced Conqueoror's Haki

After wanking advanced conqueror's Haki to moon now its not that great because Zoro has it.
 
#4
I disagree with some things on Zoro obviously but i understand your feeling. I will say don't let other opinions get to you. They don't matter at the end of the day. These discussions are formost for your own enjoyment.

If it is not turning out to be it is not worth it in my humble opinion. Maybe discuss other manga and anime, where fans are more alligned on opinions and discussions are importantly fun.
 
#5
Tbh when @Cinera first came out with "Zoro left the timeskip stronger than Luffy" I was like "wtf this guy about". Then I read his explanations (by the time it was still in WCI arc iirc) and it actually made some sense.

But then Luffy got Future Sight, showed Snakeman, got advanced CoA.
And people were like
Luffy left Zoro in the dust
With FS, Zoro has 0% chance to even touch Luffy
Luffy mid diffs
Luffy low diffs

Then act 3 happened. Ulti happened. Apoo happened. Rooftop happened.
Cinera was really right all along. It is impossible to deny now, that Zoro left the timeskip stronger than Luffy.
 
#6
Tbh when @Cinera first came out with "Zoro left the timeskip stronger than Luffy" I was like "wtf this guy about". Then I read his explanations (by the time it was still in WCI arc iirc) and it actually made some sense.

But then Luffy got Future Sight, showed Snakeman, got advanced CoA.
And people were like
Luffy left Zoro in the dust
With FS, Zoro has 0% chance to even touch Luffy
Luffy mid diffs
Luffy low diffs

Then act 3 happened. Ulti happened. Apoo happened. Rooftop happened.
Cinera was really right all along. It is impossible to deny now, that Zoro left the timeskip stronger than Luffy.
@Monkey D Theories @Yo Tan Wa
Yeah but look at @Cinera for example, he has always been respectful in his discussions and he doesn't even troll and always explains everything with details.

Look at how many people talk shit to him for simply giving his opinions. Its just fucked up tbh
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Why be toxic over this trash ass manga
I disagree with some things on Zoro obviously but i understand your feeling. I will say don't let other opinions get to you. They don't matter at the end of the day. These discussions are formost for your own enjoyment.

If it is not turning out to be it is not worth it in my humble opinion. Maybe discuss other manga and anime, where fans are more alligned on opinions and discussions are importantly fun.
Sometimes people are just irritating

I would nicely explain something and then they won't read and throw blanket statements and calling me Zorotard etc.

If you notice most Zoro fans don't become toxic as long as someone provides coherent arguments and engages in the debate.
 
#11
This is the reason why people can get toxic.

M0nstr3x: gives long ass essay with explanations and panels
@Jailer : *milaugh* *clown emoticon*

What kinda trash response is this?

Then instead of Jailer's comments got deleted, we have m0nstrex being banned several times after exposing Jailer's nonsense.
You can write essays as long as you want even a Book
If it's trash, it's trash
MonsterX :gokulaugh:
 
#18
A lot of times I go I'll be nice and chill when I log into this forum but then I see shit and maybe its a result of bias YouTubers or massive population of Sanji fans on both Oro Jackson and here but since day one I joined these forums this is how things have progressed.

I joined Oro Jackson because I started searching on the internet
"Will Zoro get Conqueror's Haki"
As a casual fan I never considered Sanji and Zoro thing as anything but random gags and that was opinion among my friends as well. No one was live "Zoro and Sanji" cuz muh rivals but then I started seeing shit on Oro Jackson like

"Zoro can't have Conqueror's Haki because if Zoro gets it Sanji gets it too because they are rivals"
And I was wtf is he talking about.

Then I joined Oro Jackson and people were talking shit and making fun for even suggesting Luffy and Zoro are close.
At the time it Dressrosa arc had just ended and most on Oro Jackson was like
Sanji and Zoro are very close and Zoro gets mid diffed by Luffy
And anytime I would suggest its the opposite, people would talk shit, insult etc.

Then we fast forwarded to Wano Arc and turns out Zoro only with one power up was doing better than Luffy with three power ups and three huge power ups against two Yonkou.

Not only was it apparently that Zoro was close to Luffy, Zoro more than likely was much stronger than Luffy coming out of time skip.

But before even that
People made fun of us for even suggesting Zoro would fight Kaido

Zoro fighst Kaido and people started with
Zoro will do no better than killer. Luffy Law and Kidd will take all the shine

Then chapter 1002 Happened, and people shat their pants

Then came damage control
Then it all became about Enma
-Oden's Haki
-Enma > Zoro

-Its not Zoro its Oden
-Oden
-Oden


Then Zoro blocks Hakai, Enma damage control can't work anymore
-He only blocked it for a second
-Law helped him
-Not impressive

He went through by far the strongest attack in the series, even characters in manga were impressed but instead of giving Zoro props
It was all about
-How many seconds he blocked it for?
-How Law helped him
-Not impressive

Then with 30 broken bones, Zoro becomes second only person to permanently scar Kaido
-Then it all became about Kaido not dropping on his back
-Paper Cut
-Not as deep as Oden

It was supposed to be a big feat, Kaido praised it and said Zoro's wound will scar Kaido when to Scabbards he said it won't even open old scar. COMBINED attack from 5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers won't even open old scar.

But no lets focus on downplaying

Then Zoro explains Enma is all his Haki
Should I Regulate my Haki


People shit their pants but then straight up denying like that dialogue doesn't even exist

People still mention Oden's Haki

Then Zoro unlocks advanced Conqueoror's Haki

After wanking advanced conqueror's Haki to moon now its not that great because Zoro has it.
You can thank youtubers like King of Lightning and Jay D Legend for creating b.s toxicness against Zoro and his fans. They are Sanji fanboys and they openly admit to hate on Zoro fans and downplay everything about him. Of course this type of behavior is spread throughout the One Piece community and its where we are today. All I can tell you is, block anyone who are clearly posting cap just for agenda pushing instead of actually trying to have a solid conversation.
 
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