Its kinda hard to not be toxic as a Zoro fan

#24
You can thank youtubers like King of Lightning and Jay D Legend for creating b.s toxicness against Zoro and his fans
that is a wild take LMAO and can't disagree more to this accusation given they remotely even insult zoro at times

funny enough a good chunk of their subs are Zori bois.

Jay D legend and KOL have a loyal following so even if people diametrically disagree with them they don't get hated unless they are half-asses followers or just nobodies that just know them from memes or controversial takes, whether that be zoro or sanji fans.


its definitely just your microcosmic and generalized perception of what is responsible for zoro fans getting bashed lets be honest Zkk being proven incorrect isn't gonna make it any better given how it resulted in they chaos it did at times.

mainly due to zoro fan haters or just reputations zoro fans have created for themselves etc.. claiming what you asserted is pretty disingenuous ..any bi products of their videos that they don't intend shouldn't be distorted and made to seem like they are intentionally demeaning zori or anything else generally.

their videos are up for interpretation by the masses with variety in those masses so if you expect there to be no misinterpretations then its just your lack of judgment.. and rational naivete.
 
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Herrera95

#25
None of these are reasons to be toxic but I agree that is hard when people are simply ignoring/denying raw manga evidence.

Is hard not to be toxic because people are toxic to your. I hate that word toxic, holy shit.

People are asshole towards Zoro fans that argue with evidence and logic. Period.
 
#30
A lot of times I go I'll be nice and chill when I log into this forum but then I see shit and maybe its a result of bias YouTubers or massive population of Sanji fans on both Oro Jackson and here but since day one I joined these forums this is how things have progressed.

I joined Oro Jackson because I started searching on the internet
"Will Zoro get Conqueror's Haki"
As a casual fan I never considered Sanji and Zoro thing as anything but random gags and that was opinion among my friends as well. No one was live "Zoro and Sanji" cuz muh rivals but then I started seeing shit on Oro Jackson like

"Zoro can't have Conqueror's Haki because if Zoro gets it Sanji gets it too because they are rivals"
And I was wtf is he talking about.

Then I joined Oro Jackson and people were talking shit and making fun for even suggesting Luffy and Zoro are close.
At the time it Dressrosa arc had just ended and most on Oro Jackson was like
Sanji and Zoro are very close and Zoro gets mid diffed by Luffy
And anytime I would suggest its the opposite, people would talk shit, insult etc.

Then we fast forwarded to Wano Arc and turns out Zoro only with one power up was doing better than Luffy with three power ups and three huge power ups against two Yonkou.

Not only was it apparently that Zoro was close to Luffy, Zoro more than likely was much stronger than Luffy coming out of time skip.

But before even that
People made fun of us for even suggesting Zoro would fight Kaido

Zoro fighst Kaido and people started with
Zoro will do no better than killer. Luffy Law and Kidd will take all the shine

Then chapter 1002 Happened, and people shat their pants

Then came damage control
Then it all became about Enma
-Oden's Haki
-Enma > Zoro

-Its not Zoro its Oden
-Oden
-Oden


Then Zoro blocks Hakai, Enma damage control can't work anymore
-He only blocked it for a second
-Law helped him
-Not impressive

He went through by far the strongest attack in the series, even characters in manga were impressed but instead of giving Zoro props
It was all about
-How many seconds he blocked it for?
-How Law helped him
-Not impressive

Then with 30 broken bones, Zoro becomes second only person to permanently scar Kaido
-Then it all became about Kaido not dropping on his back
-Paper Cut
-Not as deep as Oden

It was supposed to be a big feat, Kaido praised it and said Zoro's wound will scar Kaido when to Scabbards he said it won't even open old scar. COMBINED attack from 5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers won't even open old scar.

But no lets focus on downplaying

Then Zoro explains Enma is all his Haki
Should I Regulate my Haki


People shit their pants but then straight up denying like that dialogue doesn't even exist

People still mention Oden's Haki

Then Zoro unlocks advanced Conqueoror's Haki

After wanking advanced conqueror's Haki to moon now its not that great because Zoro has it.
Yeah exactly

Weirdly enough, I see members of a certain fandom of flat earthers desperately and delusionally trying to downplay Haki, Adv CoC, Kaido's statements and what not.

Why do these special friends of ours act like this?
Weirdly enough, they are the same ones that when Luffy unlocked Adv CoC were saying that "Adv CoC is the real deal, that makes Luffy lightyears stronger than Zoro" "Zoro will never have Adv CoC, Zoro won't even have basic Conqueror" "Zoro, at most, will obtain Adv CoC at the end of the series, if even".
Funnily enough, the author had a very different idea and Zoro was not only confirmed as a Conqueror and a King (not every Conqueror is a King!), but also unlocked Adv Coc, the power of the strongests, in the very same arc as the main character did, merely a few chapters after the man character.

And funnily enough, what they called the power of the strongests going with Kaido's words, what they called the real deal, what they called the power up that separated Luffy from Zoro... now suddenly became a third rate average power that didn't even separate Zoro from Simpji.

The coherence of these guys...
 

KonyaruIchi

👑𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓟𝓲𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓠𝓾𝓮𝓮𝓷👑
#32
You say this as if there aren't clowns shitting on basically every character that exists in OP. The observation of all the undue criticism being directed at zoro can be compared to other characters receiving the same kind of treatment, that's just the nature of this forum lmfao :suresure:
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#33
Tbh when @Cinera first came out with "Zoro left the timeskip stronger than Luffy" I was like "wtf this guy about". Then I read his explanations (by the time it was still in WCI arc iirc) and it actually made some sense.

But then Luffy got Future Sight, showed Snakeman, got advanced CoA.
And people were like
Luffy left Zoro in the dust
With FS, Zoro has 0% chance to even touch Luffy
Luffy mid diffs
Luffy low diffs

Then act 3 happened. Ulti happened. Apoo happened. Rooftop happened.
Cinera was really right all along. It is impossible to deny now, that Zoro left the timeskip stronger than Luffy.
Or he was artificially buffed.
 
F

Formerly Seth

#36
A lot of times I go I'll be nice and chill when I log into this forum but then I see shit and maybe its a result of bias YouTubers or massive population of Sanji fans on both Oro Jackson and here but since day one I joined these forums this is how things have progressed.

I joined Oro Jackson because I started searching on the internet
"Will Zoro get Conqueror's Haki"
As a casual fan I never considered Sanji and Zoro thing as anything but random gags and that was opinion among my friends as well. No one was live "Zoro and Sanji" cuz muh rivals but then I started seeing shit on Oro Jackson like

"Zoro can't have Conqueror's Haki because if Zoro gets it Sanji gets it too because they are rivals"
And I was wtf is he talking about.

Then I joined Oro Jackson and people were talking shit and making fun for even suggesting Luffy and Zoro are close.
At the time it Dressrosa arc had just ended and most on Oro Jackson was like
Sanji and Zoro are very close and Zoro gets mid diffed by Luffy
And anytime I would suggest its the opposite, people would talk shit, insult etc.

Then we fast forwarded to Wano Arc and turns out Zoro only with one power up was doing better than Luffy with three power ups and three huge power ups against two Yonkou.

Not only was it apparently that Zoro was close to Luffy, Zoro more than likely was much stronger than Luffy coming out of time skip.

But before even that
People made fun of us for even suggesting Zoro would fight Kaido

Zoro fighst Kaido and people started with
Zoro will do no better than killer. Luffy Law and Kidd will take all the shine

Then chapter 1002 Happened, and people shat their pants

Then came damage control
Then it all became about Enma
-Oden's Haki
-Enma > Zoro

-Its not Zoro its Oden
-Oden
-Oden


Then Zoro blocks Hakai, Enma damage control can't work anymore
-He only blocked it for a second
-Law helped him
-Not impressive

He went through by far the strongest attack in the series, even characters in manga were impressed but instead of giving Zoro props
It was all about
-How many seconds he blocked it for?
-How Law helped him
-Not impressive

Then with 30 broken bones, Zoro becomes second only person to permanently scar Kaido
-Then it all became about Kaido not dropping on his back
-Paper Cut
-Not as deep as Oden

It was supposed to be a big feat, Kaido praised it and said Zoro's wound will scar Kaido when to Scabbards he said it won't even open old scar. COMBINED attack from 5 high tiers and 4 mid tiers won't even open old scar.

But no lets focus on downplaying

Then Zoro explains Enma is all his Haki
Should I Regulate my Haki


People shit their pants but then straight up denying like that dialogue doesn't even exist

People still mention Oden's Haki

Then Zoro unlocks advanced Conqueoror's Haki

After wanking advanced conqueror's Haki to moon now its not that great because Zoro has it.
Stop being a fucking pussy and explaining ur toxicity.

You are bland in comparison to Shishio I remember from when I registered.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#38
Zoro was always stronger. Like we always said.
And it's been proven now.
Which is why you have to make excuses cause you can't understand how Zoro did what he did on the roof with no power ups.
Ah, but it hasn’t been proven though what do you mean?

Zoro was artificially buffed like the rest of the straw hats. Robin went from struggling against doffy execs to supplexing Black Maria and she did nothing from then to here. Its pretty evident what happened mate.

Sanji went from somewhat struggling against Oven/Daifuku to beating up Drake and not getting insta rekt against a yc2,etc

You guys just don’t wanna see it and would rather believe Zoro was several times stronger than Luffy out of the timeskip. As if Oda would ever have that be a thing.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#39
Ah, but it hasn’t been proven though what do you mean?

Zoro was artificially buffed like the rest of the straw hats. Robin went from struggling against doffy execs to supplexing Black Maria and she did nothing form then to here. Its pretty evident what happened mate.

Sanji went from somewhat struggling against Oven/Daifuku to beating up Drake and not getting insta rekt against a yc2,etc

You guys just don’t wanna see it and would rather believe Zoro was several times stronger than Luffy out of the timeskip. As if Oda would ever have that be a thing.
Robin needed Brooks help to survive without her ultimate technique, which she didn’t use for whatever reason in Dressrosa.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#40
Ah, but it hasn’t been proven though what do you mean?

Zoro was artificially buffed like the rest of the straw hats. Robin went from struggling against doffy execs to supplexing Black Maria and she did nothing form then to here. Its pretty evident what happened mate.

Sanji went from somewhat struggling against Oven/Daifuku to beating up Drake and not getting insta rekt against a yc2,etc

You guys just don’t wanna see it and would rather believe Zoro was several times stronger than Luffy out of the timeskip. As if Oda would ever have that be a thing.
Excuses

Robin used a new form

Sanji got 2 power ups queen being a retard and a distraction to win
Queen was dominating sanji with ease and would have killed him had his exo skeleton not kicked in

There's nothing to see. Zoro was stronger. It's a fact.
 
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