Its kinda hard to not be toxic as a Zoro fan

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#43
Its stilla major power growth mate. BM should be at the level of Oven/Daifuku and those guys even Sanji was struggling against in WCI and now Robin made quick work of her.
TBH Sanji was shown struggling against Dailfuku once and later interactions had him kicking away a larger genie if I’m not mistaken. And a oven got his shit rocked by a base kick.

Yeah, it really means that Robins new form is insane. It took her from being weaker than Diamanté (Maybe Cavendish level) to being stronger than Maria, Oven and Daifuku. She only won cause of it afterall, none of the rest of he abilities showed any significant growth.

Though I do believe in moderate growth between arcs, it’s stupid to pretend it ain’t a thing.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#44
Excuses

Robin used a new form

Sanji got 2 power ups queen being a retard and a distraction to win
Queen was dominating sanji with ease and would have killed him had his exo skeleton not kicked in

There's nothing to see. Zoro was stronger. It's a fact.
Excuses yourself.

Robin couldnt hang with people of BMs level and now she does, that was pre new form.

The same for Sanji.

You dont know what a fact is, you forgo all logic and expect Zoro to have been 5-10x stronger than Luffy at the start of post skip. Do you realize how insane this stance is? Btw this is the same Zoro that didnt insta wreck pica which he should have if he was at this level back then, this is the same Zoro that has some semblance of trouble against killer before the raid,etc

Its clear he got buffed to the non biased eye. Anyways, just stating my piece and this is gonna keep going in circles so Ima just drop this last post here.
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TBH Sanji was shown struggling against Dailfuku once and later interactions had him kicking away a larger genie if I’m not mistaken. And a oven got his shit rocked by a base kick.

Yeah, it really means that Robins new form is insane. It took her from being weaker than Diamanté (Maybe Cavendish level) to being stronger than Maria, Oven and Daifuku. She only won cause of it afterall, none of the rest of he abilities showed any significant growth.

Though I do believe in moderate growth between arcs, it’s stupid to pretend it ain’t a thing.
She was hanging with BM before she used the form.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#45
Excuses yourself.

Robin couldnt hang with people of BMs level and now she does, that was pre new form.

The same for Sanji.

You dont know what a fact is, you forgo all logic and expect Zoro to have been 5-10x stronger than Luffy at the start of post skip. Do you realize how insane this stance is? Btw this is the same Zoro that didnt insta wreck pica which he should have if he was at this level back then, this is the same Zoro that has some semblance of trouble against killer before the raid,etc

Its clear he got buffed to the non biased eye. Anyways, just stating my piece and this is gonna keep going in circles so Ima just drop this last post here.
Cap.
Zoro was levels above pica. Who could only run. When he did engage he got one shot.
Killer got overpowered by zoro flexing his chest then also got one shot
Zoro is just that strong
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#51
? Address what. He was. Luffy getting folded.
So Oda who never had Zoro stronger than Luffy during the entirety of the show ( at best s relative equal) up and decided that Zoro should be 5-10 times stronger than the Luffy who’s training was hyped up and ended the timeskip?

That is more logical to you than Luffy and Zoro coming out of the timeskip relative to each other but Luffy growing stronger due to Oda making post-skip the luffy show which resulted in Oda buffing up every SHs up to par for the raid.

Which one makes sense to you.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#52
Robin went from struggling against doffy execs to supplexing Black Maria and she did nothing from then to here. Its pretty evident what happened mate.
Who said Doffy's top execs are much weaker than Tobi Roppo?

Sanji went from somewhat struggling against Oven/Daifuku to beating up Drake and not getting insta rekt against a yc2,etc
Sanji never went all out against Oven/Daifuku. He'd wreck them if he did so and he did get insta wrecked by Queen (who was also holding back his Germa abilities btw).

Characters get stronger with powerups and visible stat boosts. Zoro's first powerup in the post timeskip was Enma, he was just that strong from the timeskip itself.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#54
Who said Doffy's top execs are much weaker than Tobi Roppo?


Sanji never went all out against Oven/Daifuku. He'd wreck them if he did so and he did get insta wrecked by Queen (who was also holding back his Germa abilities btw).

Characters get stronger with powerups and visible stat boosts. Zoro's first powerup in the post timeskip was Enma, he was just that strong from the timeskip itself.
So Oda who never had Zoro stronger than Luffy during the entirety of the show ( at best s relative equal) up and decided that Zoro should be 5-10 times stronger than the Luffy who’s training was hyped up and ended the timeskip?

That is more logical to you than Luffy and Zoro coming out of the timeskip relative to each other but Luffy growing stronger due to Oda making post-skip the luffy show which resulted in Oda buffing up every SHs up to par for the raid.

Which one makes sense to you.
Okay buddy Zoro was several times stronger that Luffy but we never actually saw that strength difference ever up until Zoro who did nothing started hurting Yonko. Cool cool.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#55
So Oda who never had Zoro stronger than Luffy during the entirety of the show ( at best s relative equal) up and decided that Zoro should be 5-10 times stronger than the Luffy who’s training was hyped up and ended the timeskip?

That is more logical to you than Luffy and Zoro coming out of the timeskip relative to each other but Luffy growing stronger due to Oda making post-skip the luffy show which resulted in Oda buffing up every SHs up to par for the raid.

Which one makes sense to you.
That zoro was stronger

If they were relative then roof piece doesn't make sense cause luffy had 3 extreme diff fights and 2 power ups
 
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