Break Week It's time to accept Oden's wank even when...it is tiring

[RayanOO]

I see

For me that scene remains disrespectful no matter how Oda and Oden thought seems symbolic to "share last meal" with the dead
It's just doesn't sit well.

Oden's character is all fine , a dude who was wild then turned to be quite caring
But then it became silly when he was shown being super naive

Oh I forgot oda failed to foreshadow Oden properly handle His character outside of Wano

They are a yonko main squad
Sulong Dukes + Denjiro > 2 YCs
Ashura ~ 3rd YC
Kawa + Rest ~ Vets/Flyers

You guys are stuck into some wank
Oden has a yonko level squad

the lowest level one

Kata > A sulong Duke
Smoothie >=a Sulong Duke
Cracker ~ Denjiro
perospero ~ Ashura
Snack >= Kawamatsu
Oven / Daifuku / Compote / Tamago : Kinemon / Raizo / Izo / Kiku

Kata is too strong.

King > A Sulong Duke
Queen > A Sulong Duke
Jack ~ Denjiro
Drake ~ Ashura
Wsw ~ Kawamatsu
BM ~ Izo
ulti > Kiku
Kinemon > Sasaki
PO ~ Raizo

King and Queen are too strong and the rest are even

Marco > Sulong Duke
Jozu > Sulong Duke
Vista >= Denjiro
Ace > Ashura
Thatch ~ Kawa
Izo = Izo
The 10 commanders > the 3 scabbards

I don't even talk about the Red hair pirates or BB pirates.

So they are indeed strong but their strongest fighters are a bit lacking compared to Yonko best squad

 

[Kiiro]

Oden is like Zoro right now, so anyone stronger than him receives powerscaling.

Luffy will not be able to last an hour in boiling oil since he will melt lol.

 

[Herrera95]

There were 10 scabbards : 2 Sulong Dukesc Denjiro, Ashura, Kawamatsu, Kinemon, Izo, Kanjuro, Kiku, Raizo (and maybe Shinobu).

Is this Yonko level main squad Top 3 + 5/6 Vets ?
No. I don’t think they can win against any Yonko main crew. YC1/2 are too strong.
But frankly it’s not far below. Just give Kinemon / Raizo / Kanjuro / Kiku 20 years and no time skip to grow stronger and I think they could have compete frankly.

To me it seems Oda didn't made characters that timeskipped weaker than those who didn't. For example Kiku, Kin'emon, Raizo and The Traitor should be the weakest. Kin'emon is being portrayed as one of the strongest.

 

[RayanOO]

To me it seems Oda didn't made characters that timeskipped weaker than those who didn't. For example Kiku, Kin'emon, Raizo and The Traitor should be the weakest. Kin'emon is being portrayed as one of the strongest.

Yeah those who time skiped are weaker, and even Ashura and Inu said it.

Only Kinemon managed to shine more than the others because : it's likely he was the 1s or 2nd strongest in the past, he is the leader, his will his greater than the other and he is more important (closer to Momo, right hand of Oden etc etc)

But Inu/Neko;Denjiro, Ashura are def the strongest

 

[BOCCHI]

Never happened does no such thing.
Enma takes more haki than needed to cut more than you want when you've not mastered it which is why it's the same as his other 2 swords now its coc coated just like them

Go back to the roof top and you see Zoro stating how he needs to unleash more of enma for greater AP. Zoro is at least capable of such level of control over enma.

 

[HA001]

Go back to the roof top and you see Zoro stating how he needs to unleash more of enma for greater AP. Zoro is at least capable of such level of control over enma.

Go back to 1033 to where it clearly says enma has 0 power and all its been doing is wasting his haki. Enma just takes more haki than he wants to use.
Now he's released all his haki enma is no different to his other swords.

 

[Finalbeta]

No, enma only made Zoro stronger, he was only nerfed against King probably in 2 instances if I’m not mistaken.

I meant his performance was lowered once he was struck by Hakai.

 

[Date]

I dont like Oden, but its clear that he is one of the legendary character of the verse for Oda, together only with few others like WB, Roger, Shanks and Luffy

Even if the likes of Kaido, BM and Admirals are as strong as him, they are more "side characters" to the main story.

Oden is basically the "japanese" Luffy, and the scabbards his crew.

 

[BOCCHI]

Go back to 1033 to where it clearly says enma has 0 power and all its been doing is wasting his haki. Enma just takes more haki than he wants to use.
Now he's released all his haki enma is no different to his other swords.

A PU sword is no different than his other swords lol yeah I believe you.

 

[HA001]

A PU sword is no different than his other swords lol yeah I believe you.

Power up when the only power up is him finally stop holding back sure.

 

[BOCCHI]

Power up when the only power up is him finally stop holding back sure.

I’m confident it’s hard for you to accept Zoro getting PUs

 

[HA001]

I’m confident it’s hard for you to accept Zoro getting PUs

Lmfaoooo keep crying. You all got bodied by 1033.
No odens haki
No power up No nothing.
Just zoro releasing all HIS haki and coating ALL 3 SWORDS in coc NOT JUST ENMA

 

[PenguinKing]

I still fail to conciliate Oden's existence with Rayleigh focusing on Roger's ability to hear the voice of the Poneglyph as he couldn't decipher them while explaining they, as a whole, as a crew, were mere pirates (depicting a clear opposition to the ability to read that language). Not only Oden isn't addressed in any way in spite of his utter importance, but the whole way Rayleigh describes the events make it seem like none of them could decipher the stones.

(Since it's obvious Oden was a last time addition and wouldn't surprise me Oda just woke up one night noticing the plothole of Roger just hearing the voice yet being capable of writing the language).

I honestly thought it was a reference to Mormons. Their "guy" (not sure proper term) heard an angel speak to him and would only let 1 guy hear him translate & then scribe it to tell others. - Source, a south park episode.

 

[BOCCHI]

Lmfaoooo keep crying. You all got bodied by 1033.
No odens haki
No power up No nothing.
Just zoro releasing all HIS haki and coating ALL 3 SWORDS in coc NOT JUST ENMA

He is literally getting PUs lol. Unlocking CoC a PU, AdvCoC a PU, enma a PU.

 

[HA001]

He is literally getting PUs lol. Unlocking CoC a PU, AdvCoC a PU, enma a PU.

Yes that magic power up of releasing all HIS haki
Cry more

 

[BOCCHI]

Yes that magic power up of releasing all HIS haki
Cry more

That increase HIS AP

Zoro: Once I’ve gotten used to this sword I’ll be that much stronger.

Zoro again: Gotta unleash more of enma.

BM: this is no ordinary sword.

Oda naming a chapter over this sword and giving so much focus on it over and over

You: B but enma is not a PU it’s no different from other swords.


Who is crying here lol

 

[HA001]

That increase HIS AP

Zoro: Once I’ve gotten used to this sword I’ll be that much stronger.

Zoro again: Gotta unleash more of enma.

BM: this is no ordinary sword.

Oda naming a chapter over this sword and giving so much focus on it over and over

You: B but enma is not a PU it’s no different from other swords.


Who is crying here lol

Still you.
Zoro can release all his haki at once with any sword hence ALL 3 SWORDS are coc coated not just enma.
Once mastered its like all his other swords and it adds nothing extra to his ap.

 

[BOCCHI]

Still you.
Zoro can release all his haki at once with any sword hence ALL 3 SWORDS are coc coated not just enma.
Once mastered its like all his other swords and it adds nothing extra to his ap.

Why would only enma be coated with advCoC? It’s obviously gonna be three swords. When did I ever claim enma would be the only one with advCoC? As stated above enma is helping Zoro be stronger it adds to his AP. There’s no way around it. Claiming that just cuz Zoro got advCoC enma’s power is meaningless is stupid. You are literally ignoring what Zoro himself said just cuz you don’t like it.

 

[HA001]

Why would only enma be coated with advCoC? It’s obviously gonna be three swords. When did I ever claim enma would be the only one with advCoC? As stated above enma is helping Zoro be stronger it adds to his AP. There’s no way around it. Claiming that just cuz Zoro got advCoC enma’s power is meaningless is stupid. You are literally ignoring what Zoro himself said just cuz you don’t like it.

Zoro said no such thing about it adding to his ap.

If when zoro uses all his haki enma is the exact same as the other 2 swords what is it adding ?

No where in the manga does it say enma adds to his ap. All it does is take more haki to cut more.

Cry cry cry you got bodied by a single chapter

 

[BOCCHI]

Zoro said no such thing about it adding to his ap.

If when zoro uses all his haki enma is the exact same as the other 2 swords what is it adding ?

No where in the manga does it say enma adds to his ap. All it does is take more haki to cut more.

Cry cry cry you got bodied by a single chapter

What does Zoro mean when he says he will get stronger after he gets used to enma and saying he needs to unleash enma more ? Tell me what it means in your head?