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● Now i made this thread so we can use it to bring Jack feats and hype compared to other commanders including Doffy who was called by Kaido a weakling so let's start :

● he fought 2 top members of the mink Niko and inu while using his Zoan form for 5 days and never got injured or out of breath while the same niku stalemated Ashura doji who got stalemated by base Jack and called Strong by Kaido who called Doffy a weakling.
● Base Jack tanked a an island attack from Zunisha's Trunk while being bandaged and still he was conscious while doffy was out from KKG .
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#5
Jack was bruised up from fighting the two
The first thing Neko does when he arrives is floor Jack.
After that we have a sequence of panels with them fighting without anyone gaining a particular edge, reinforced by the statement that none could topple the other until Jack grew tired and brought out the weapon.

Context is important. Kaido calls Doflamingo a weakling in a state of drunken emotion due to his supply being cut off, basically limiting or destroying his dream.


Doflamingo with his ruptured organs, entire day of fighting, enduring one round of G4 and multiple G4 hits was taken out by Luffy's strongest attack.​
 
#6
One fucking chapter and the community took 180 on Jack, from slandering to Wanking. Like how easy do people change their mind on things when it comes to agenda? People see Jack fighting against multiple Su Long users and like "Jack>Dofy" but forget that the same Doflamingo took under control someone like Jozu.

Like I'm not trying to peek a side here, I don't care who do you think is stronger but for fuck sake stop using one chapter to go 180, that's stupid. People think it's impressive that Jack can fight against Su Long users when they wouldn't been able to even touch Doflamingo, they'd all be under his control. Jack's toughness isn't a new thing ether, we know that Zoan users are tough and on top of that Jack is a Fishman with a really tough body. Let's just see what he can do against Nekomamushi and Inuarashi.
 
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@TheAncientCenturion You are big Doffy fan if I remember.

Why people always use this fucking parasite thing to scale Doffy?

It is OP but let's be honest Jozu didn't even try to break it ( Oda didn't think about this idea probably not to de-hype Doffy before his arc ).

Jack can easily break out from this.
 
#11
Jack stronger than Doflamingo, Inu and Neko are also stronger than Doflamingo if were counting Sulong. The argument that just because Jozu got Parasite means Doflamingo > Jozu is just plain idiocy. Luffy got Parasite but remind me again who won?
 

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#13
Doflamingo was stronger than Luffy in DR.

Non hakified awakening
did this to a guy literally covered in haki
There's no trade off going on there. Luffy could move freely when he used G4 against Katakuri. Oda even clarified it in an SBS
pre GK Doffy was easily reacting to g2/g3 Luffy.
DR Mingo vs DR Luffy without outside interference and factors results in Mingo's victory. The difference between pre GK Doffy and post GK Doffy is noticeable.
This was stated about GK
Law was planning to take down Doffy for years, was willing to cut down on his remaining life span, all of that just to be able to land GK, for that one moment.
Taking down Doflamingo was Law's life goal.
Doflamingo then got hit with jet stamp and counter shock after standing up, once again undoing some of the stitches he had done

Post GK Mingo couldn't keep up with Luffy's g2 and was getting overwhelmed
whilst pre GK Doffy was easily reacting to g2/g3 Luffy.
The difference as I've said is noticeable. Even though Mingo stitched himself up, it affected him, so much that the first thing he does when he is up is reapplying his patch
While Mingo may not be able to best G4 Luffy in CQC he'd be able to dodge more hits, as illustrated above. Plus if Mingo plays it smart he can keep Luffy at bay using his awakening. With awakening pestering Luffy, Mingo can potentially attack Luffy from the sides or back and aim for the head.
Moreover, CIS/PIS/ and plot armor restricted, Doffy takes the W here. Doffy, whilst critically injured (hit with GK, injection shot, and counter shock), survived one round of G4. Luffy could barely keep his eyes opened and was exhausted by that, so much that Gyats had to carry him around.

And this time Mingo won't 'forget' to use his haki on his awakening against g4, like he did, aka plot armor.
but was capable of using it against base Luffy and fodders
clear plot armor protection. Good luck trying to constantly run away and hide during the 10 minutes in which he lacks haki, from a guy who can turn the entire surroundings into strings.
If there's no pis then Doflamingo someone deemed callous and calculating, someone who would seize the smallest weakness in a fight, someone against whom you'd lose your life if you lose your cool
won't just stand there and let Luffy powerup and underestimate him.

Without the plot armor, the ability to use haki, or the energy to constantly keep his eyes open, and without the gladiators stalling Doflamingo, Mingo catches up to Luffy and kills him.


Before someone brings the sbs, this is the official translation
Here's the proper one. Oda says Luffy would need to tough it out.

Tough it out- to endure what's coming.

Pay attention to how there's no risk of not being able to move but Doflamingo's awakening managed to weaken Luffy so much that he was trembling all over and needed Gyats to carry him

 

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#14
@TheAncientCenturion You are big Doffy fan if I remember.

Why people always use this fucking parasite thing to scale Doffy?

It is OP but let's be honest Jozu didn't even try to break it ( Oda didn't think about this idea probably not to de-hype Doffy before his arc ).

Jack can easily break out from this.
Shape shifting isn’t enough to break parasite lol. The strings are still attached to the same part of the body. It’s not like a radical change as in G4 where they burst off likely thanks to the elastic properties.
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It’s also a little fucked up that I didn’t get tagged in a Jack thread
 
#15
Jack stronger than Doflamingo, Inu and Neko are also stronger than Doflamingo if were counting Sulong. The argument that just because Jozu got Parasite means Doflamingo > Jozu is just plain idiocy. Luffy got Parasite but remind me again who won?
Boundman Luffy was required.
Boundman is stronger than Sulong Inu and Neko.
 
#18

Without the plot armor, the ability to use haki, or the energy to constantly keep his eyes open, and without the gladiators stalling Doflamingo, Mingo catches up to Luffy and kills him.
Luffy had some logical plot armor involving all the enemies Doflamingo had created for himself.
Doflamingo had massive plot armor to further the threat of bird cage, increase arc drama and to establish the weakness of G4.
Luffy wasting time in G4, bouncing around and explaining himself, holding back multiple times, not using finisher moves like Organ or King Kong Gun, G4 time limit conveniently running out a split second before he would have finished it in round 1.
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That's on Luffy. Not the other characters.
Boundman Luffy is the only one to break out of Parasite iirc (could be wrong but I think so?) , now this doesn't establish the minimum required strength perfectly, but it is somewhere between Jozu level and Boundman level. Considering Boundman is physically a lot stronger than Doflamingo, Cracker and slightly physically stronger than Katakuri this is a high bar.
 
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