Character Discussion Jack should have been Kaido's YC1

#41
Jacks role was to hype king and queen and did it perfectly.

He was powerful and intimidating, his bounty was the first 10 digit bounty we’ve ever seen and he was comparable to the strongest member of big moms crew. This strength just made king and queens that much more impressive since he is much weaker than them.

Jack being Kaidos weakest commander just shows how amazing the beast pirates are
Stick to Sanji or Crocodile threads
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Jack isn't much weaker btw

Oda simply thought making Jack yc3 who respects King and Queen would make beast pirates be amazing
Nah

Kinga and Queen desigsns suck, they ended up doing nothing much
Having no real hype of their own
 
#47
Comparing Jack to King is like comparing Mr. 3 to Mr. 1 or Jabura to Lucci or Cracker to Katakuri and so on.

King is significantly stronger than Jack. No joke, you can put dozens of characters between King and Jack, that's how big the difference is. In fact, King >= Marco >= Katakuri > Doffy > Queen >= Denjiro > Sulong Dukes > Jack > Inu~Nekomamushi~Ashura Doji~Perospero
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#48
Jack x killer would be so hype tho, two characters with elly Nice designs that got wasted imo
 
#49
Jack should have been Kaido's YC1
Jack is not YC1 for the simple reason that the crew was formed before he was born. Jack is only 28 years old, while King was made Kaido's right hand man some 33 years ago. Queen is even older than King.
He is younger than most tobi roppo (only Page One and Ulti are younger) and yet he is above them. If the crew wasn't defeated, he could have taken Queen's place in a few years. I don't think he could have taken King's place, you obviously undersetimate him. He was truly undefeatable for decades before Zoro came along.

Is why Beast pirates suck as a crew
They suck as a crew because they regard their crewmates as replaceable. They don't really care for each other and don't guard each other's back. They rule by fear and have too many traitors in their ranks.

King doesn't even sound smartee than anyone in Beast pirate.
He was the only one in their crew thinking strategically, both with kicking Big Mom's ship off the waterfall, and with commanding his crew to kill Momo, so that the raiders would lose their leader and their spirit.

In my opinion, King is the most hansome, good-looking character in One Piece. No character looks better or dresses better than him. His design is what made me fall for the first time in my life in love with a villain.
 
#50
Even his flashback with kaidou was short
Jack is not YC1 for the simple reason that the crew was formed before he was born. Jack is only 28 years old, while King was made Kaido's right hand man some 33 years ago. Queen is even older than King.
He is younger than most tobi roppo (only Page One and Ulti are younger) and yet he is above them. If the crew wasn't defeated, he could have taken Queen's place in a few years. I don't think he could have taken King's place, you obviously undersetimate him. He was truly undefeatable for decades before Zoro came along.


They suck as a crew because they regard their crewmates as replaceable. They don't really care for each other and don't guard each other's back. They rule by fear and have too many traitors in their ranks.


He was the only one in their crew thinking strategically, both with kicking Big Mom's ship off the waterfall, and with commanding his crew to kill Momo, so that the raiders would lose their leader and their spirit.

In my opinion, King is the most hansome, good-looking character in One Piece. No character looks better or dresses better than him. His design is what made me fall for the first time in my life in love with a villain.
Too bad he didn't face Lucci.. Battle of the good looking villians lol
 
#53
Too bad he didn't face Lucci.. Battle of the good looking villians lol
Yes, Lucci also looks good. I almost fell in love with him too, back then. But then he turned out to be a villain and I couldn't.
With King it was the other way around. First he was a villain with a hideous mask, and then he became a good looking angel, who made a mistake as a child and followed Kaido. He was supposed to follow Luffy! He should never have become a villain!
 
#57
Jack is not YC1 for the simple reason that the crew was formed before he was born. Jack is only 28 years old, while King was made Kaido's right hand man some 33 years ago. Queen is even older than King.
He is younger than most tobi roppo (only Page One and Ulti are younger) and yet he is above them. If the crew wasn't defeated, he could have taken Queen's place in a few years. I don't think he could have taken King's place, you obviously undersetimate him. He was truly undefeatable for decades before Zoro came along.


They suck as a crew because they regard their crewmates as replaceable. They don't really care for each other and don't guard each other's back. They rule by fear and have too many traitors in their ranks.


He was the only one in their crew thinking strategically, both with kicking Big Mom's ship off the waterfall, and with commanding his crew to kill Momo, so that the raiders would lose their leader and their spirit.

In my opinion, King is the most hansome, good-looking character in One Piece. No character looks better or dresses better than him. His design is what made me fall for the first time in my life in love with a villain.
You seriously don't get it

Oda could have retconned Jack age and story
Like he did change Caesar age to make him 56 while in the last it was revealed he was 40. Oda realised Caesar would be too young to be Mads member

Same thing could have happened here

Jack is better than King in everything bar durability & some skills
Hype, design, intro, etc... Jack
 
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