Jujutsu Kaisen, Chapter 232: Inhuman Makyou Shinjuku Showdown, Part 10

[notAfanboy]

Nobody is saying that Sukuna was Aizen or some shit

And yeah having an hostage or someone to take hits at your place isn’t some 10000 IQ plan but it’s still a plan.

Megumi just doesn’t accidentally became Sukuna play thing. Sukuna planned for it and it worked. I don’t need to remember you that Sukuna had eyes on Megumi since day one and planned his absorption for a long time now.

So putting Megumi out of the plan when he was a good part of the plan is stupid.



Lmao yeah sure sure



And ? Still a plan and still worked



Yeah Gojo fried his brain as Sukuna expected but it’s a Sukuna fail again ? Sure …….

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[Light D Lamperouge]

Nobody is saying that Sukuna was Aizen or some shit

You're out here touting Sukuna as the master planner lmao. Like get on the same page as yourself and then we can talk more.

And yeah having an hostage or someone to take hits at your place isn’t some 10000 IQ plan but it’s still a plan.

Indeed. A child can come up with it.

Megumi just doesn’t accidentally became Sukuna play thing. Sukuna planned for it and it worked. I don’t need to remember you that Sukuna had eyes on Megumi since day one and planned his absorption for a long time now.

What does that have to do with anything lmao?

So putting Megumi out of the plan when he was a good part of the plan is stupid.

You don't get or don't wanna admit understanding what I am saying.

This is no master plan. This is as basic as it gets. The plan only works cuz of Megumi's body. This isn't something you can do that will work every single time against everyone.

Lmao yeah sure sure

Like Rayan seriously, put your agenda aside at the moment for real. The plan hinges on whether Gojo decides to save Megumi or kill Megumi.

And ? Still a plan and still worked

Read above.

Yeah Gojo fried his brain as Sukuna expected but it’s a Sukuna fail again ? Sure …….

Wait you're saying Sukuna got brain damage as part of the plan lmao? Is this what you're tryna argue? He literally got destroyed and was at Gojo's mercy cuz of his MaStEr PLaN.

It is what it is br0. I am sorry. I don't write the manga. Issue your complains to Gege. You chose not to believe the author's words and thought Sukuna is the God of the verse and now you're disappointed and can only cope about it. I tried to warn you.

 

[L57]

Nobody is saying that Sukuna was Aizen or some shit

And yeah having an hostage or someone to take hits at your place isn’t some 10000 IQ plan but it’s still a plan.

Megumi just doesn’t accidentally became Sukuna play thing. Sukuna planned for it and it worked. I don’t need to remember you that Sukuna had eyes on Megumi since day one and planned his absorption for a long time now.

So putting Megumi out of the plan when he was a good part of the plan is stupid.



Lmao yeah sure sure



And ? Still a plan and still worked



Yeah Gojo fried his brain as Sukuna expected but it’s a Sukuna fail again ? Sure …….

Gojo:ill kill you before it adapts
Failed

 

[matt245]

The biggest thing that Gojo has going for him is the permanent Infinity. Having an ability capable of neglecting 90% of the attacks in the verse with close to no draw backs is OP. Gojo won the lottery

 

[RayanOO]

You're out here touting Sukuna as the master planner lmao. Like get on the same page as yourself and then we can talk more.

Euh yeah between the two Sukuna is indeed the better planner and managed to make a good plan

Not my fault

Indeed. A child can come up with it.

Lol don’t really but if you want to underestimate Sukuna to glorify Gojo you can you can

You don't get or don't wanna admit understanding what I am saying.

This is no master plan. This is as basic as it gets. The plan only works cuz of Megumi's body. This isn't something you can do that will work every single time against everyone.

The stupid part of your post is putting Megumi aside of the plan

while he is THE plan

You talking about the rando etc doesn’t make sense

What does that have to do with anything lmao?

I don’t know ? Everything

Like Rayan seriously, put your agenda aside at the moment for real. The plan hinges on whether Gojo decides to save Megumi or kill Megumi.

Yeah sure I’m the one driven by agenda here

You putting Gojo on a pedestal and trying to hype up his every moves is funny but it’s not in the story and I can’t stop myself from telling it to you

Wait you're saying Sukuna got brain damage as part of the plan lmao? Is this what you're tryna argue? He literally got destroyed and was at Gojo's mercy cuz of his MaStEr PLaN.

Yeah sure it happened like that

Sukuna bet that Gojo would fry his brain, and it happened
But he didn’t expect UV to touch and affect him too

So yeah it backfired a little bit his plan/bet to push Gojo to fry his own brain worked

It is what it is br0. I am sorry. I don't write the manga. Issue your complains to Gege. You chose not to believe the author's words and thought Sukuna is the God of the verse and now you're disappointed and can only cope about it. I tried to warn you.

Gojo too stong
Gojo the great
👑

Imagine thinking that Gojo could have ended Sukuna with any of his moves anytime lmao

Only in your mind my friendo

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

The biggest thing that Gojo has going for him is the permanent Infinity. Having an ability capable of neglecting 90% of the attacks in the verse with close to no draw backs is OP. Gojo won the lottery

The most busted ability in JJK is Mahoraga's adaptation.

Also Gojo's infinity being permanent is his doing. It's not something he was born with lmao.

Euh yeah between the two Sukuna is indeed the better planner and managed to make a good plan

Between whom?

Lol don’t really but if you want to underestimate Sukuna to glorify Gojo you can you can

No one here is underestimating Sukuna.

The stupid part of your post is putting Megumi aside of the plan

while he is THE plan

You talking about the rando etc doesn’t make sense

The stupid part here is you people glorifying and throating Sukuna as the almighty God of plans. The one who came up with plans in the first place. Man made one basic plan and his stans went wild lmao.

I don’t know ? Everything

Alright lmao.

Yeah sure I’m the one driven by agenda here

Indeed you are.

You putting Gojo on a pedestal and trying to hype up his every moves is funny but it’s not in the story and I can’t stop myself from telling it to you

I am not the one doing that. It's all in the manga. You choosing not to accept it is your thing entirely. Like I said, I don't write JJK.

Yeah sure it happened like that

Sukuna bet that Gojo would fry his brain, and it happened
But he didn’t expect UV to touch and affect him too

So yeah it backfired a little bit his plan/bet to push Gojo to fry his own brain worked

So Sukuna got brain damage from his plan and that makes him a great planner? Standards at rock bottom I see. Man got brain damage and my dude Rayan is out here saying it backfired A LITTLE lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Gojo too stong
Gojo the great
👑

Finally something factual.

Imagine thinking that Gojo could have ended Sukuna with any of his moves anytime lmao

Only in your mind my friendo

It's all in the manga br0. You not wanting to accept it is your thing. Not all of us are deep in the agenda to not be able to accept information that contradicts our headcanon and desires.

 

[matt245]

The most busted ability in JJK is Mahoraga's adaption.

Also Gojo's infinity being permanent is his doing. It's not something he was born with lmao.

Maho's adaptation is busted too. Agreed. However, as we've seen, A 15F Sukuna dispatched a Maho with adaptation relatively easily. To take advantage of it, you gotta survive enough time for the adaptation to take effect, which in this case; is only happening because Sukuna can stall Gojo enough time for the wheel to spin 4 times. Outside of him, I doubt that anyone is good enough to survive Gojo's assaults. And Gojo himself believed that he could one shot Maho so yeah... It has a big BUT.

Regarding Infinity, yes, props to Gojo for being able to make it a passive but let's not act like he wasn't born with Infinity itself (and the 6 eyes to make it consume less CE) duh.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Maho's adaptation is busted too. Agreed. However, as we've seen, A 15F Sukuna dispatched a Maho with adaptation relatively easily. To take advantage of it, you gotta survive enough time for the adaptation to take effect, which in this case; is only happening because Sukuna can stall Gojo enough time for the wheel to spin 4 times. Outside of him, I doubt that anyone is good enough to survive Gojo's assaults. And Gojo himself believed that he could one shot Maho so yeah... It has a big BUT.

I was talking about the ability only. Not how strong Maho is. You can have an OP ability and still be relatively a fodder or smth, just look at Takaba. Pound for pound it's the most busted thing in JJK thus far. The ability to adapt to any and all phenomena is the most busted thing in the verse as of now. Maho's other stats lacking is the reason why Maho is weaker than some. In a vacuum, on its own, talking purely about abilities, not who wields them or other stats, it's the most broken thing. Gojo's infinity is broken too, but there are ways around it. Nothing can get around Mahoraga's ability except outright killing it. But killing the user is something that destroys every ability in JJK lol.

Regarding Infinity, yes, props to Gojo for being able to make it a passive but let's not act like he wasn't born with Infinity itself (and the 6 eyes to make it consume less CE) duh.

Yeah Gojo was born with infinity, but not permanent infinity which was your point.

he biggest thing that Gojo has going for him is the permanent Infinity. Having an ability capable of neglecting 90% of the attacks in the verse with close to no draw backs is OP. Gojo won the lottery

^^

Gojo was not born with permanent infinity. He had to master it and master RCT or else he wouldn't be able to use it.

 

[matt245]

I was talking about the ability only. Not how strong Maho is. You can have an OP ability and still be relatively a fodder or smth, just look at Takaba. Pound for pound it's the most busted thing in JJK thus far. The ability to adapt to any and all phenomena is the most busted thing in the verse as of now. Maho's other stats lacking is the reason why Maho is weaker than some. In a vacuum, on its own, talking purely about abilities, not who wields them or other stats, it's the most broken thing. Gojo's infinity is broken too, but there are ways around it. Nothing can get around Mahoraga's ability except outright killing it. But killing the user is something that destroys every ability in JJK lol.



Yeah Gojo was born with infinity, but not permanent infinity which was your point.

^^

Gojo was not born with permanent infinity. He had to master it and master RCT or else he wouldn't be able to use it.

You gotta look at the drawbacks too mate. Having to tank hits to adapt is a huge, huge minus. Sukuna almost vanished from the game if it wasn't for Megumi taking UV and despite that, he still took damage to the brain. Which means that you pretty much can't adapt to something like UV because you'll outright die. For stuff like Blue or Red, you'll have to take constant hits for the ability to finally be unable to damage you. Meanwhile, with Infinite; stuff like Blue and Red won't hit your right away.
Dunno about you but I'd rather have something that grants me immunity to attacks from the beginning rather than having to build up immunity by getting smacked around.

Regarding Gojo; yes, as I said, props to him for making Infinity a passive but even without being a passive it's still rather strong as you can turn it on right before getting hit by it. However, as I said, Gojo's infinity is a combination of 3 major factor's:
1. The CT itself. Without it, there's no infinity.
2. Six Eyes. Without it, Gojo would run out of CE very fast.
3. Gojo's skill.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

You gotta look at the drawbacks too mate. Having to tank hits to adapt is a huge, huge minus. Sukuna almost vanished from the game if it wasn't for Megumi taking UV and despite that, he still took damage to the brain. Which means that you pretty much can't adapt to something like UV because you'll outright die. For stuff like Blue or Red, you'll have to take constant hits for the ability to finally be unable to damage you. Meanwhile, with Infinite; stuff like Blue and Red won't hit your right away.
Dunno about you but I'd rather have something that grants me immunity to attacks from the beginning rather than having to build up immunity by getting smacked around.

Again your point hinges on who uses them and not the abilities themselves. As a single ability, the adaptation is the most broken ability. UV can be avoided if your domain is strong enough. Nothing can stop Mahoraga from adapting unless you kill it. But like I said, you stop any ability when you kill someone.

Mahoraga killed the previous 6 eyes and limitless user. Meaning it alone managed to adapt to limitless, because no one ever tamed it so they couldn't use it like Sukuna does.

Which is my entire point. As far as the abilities themselves go, the ability to adapt to anything is the most busted thing.

Regarding Gojo; yes, as I said, props to him for making Infinity a passive but even without being a passive it's still rather strong as you can turn it on right before getting hit by it. However, as I said, Gojo's infinity is a combination of 3 major factor's:
1. The CT itself. Without it, there's no infinity.
2. Six Eyes. Without it, Gojo would run out of CE very fast.
3. Gojo's skill.

Yeah but it's Gojo's skills that make it so strong. Previous 6 eyes and limitless users were never hailed to be the strongest or something like that. It's Satoru and Satoru alone. Because he took it to the next level. Like I said, Satoru alone would bodybag the previous 6 eyes and limitless user and the previous 10 shadows user. But that's because Satoru is so strong. Even tho the previous 6 eyes and limitless user got the same CT as Satoru, and the previous 10s user has Mahoraga. But again, Mahoraga lacks in other stats compared to the top of the verse, however, it has the single most busted ability on its own.


My entire point here is that there is no stopping Maho's adaptation besides outright killing it. As far as the ability itself goes it's the most busted. The rest of course depends on the wielder. As we've seen limitless lost to Mahoraga alone. In a vacuum, independent of who uses the ability, as in the ability itself only, it's the most busted thing.

With this ability you can do things no one can. Not even Gojo or Sukuna can break binding vows without consequence. But Mahoraga's ability should allow even that.

 

[Durableguy]

Again. It was when Jogo and crew were ganging up on Gojo during Shibuya. Jogo straight up mentally asks if there isn't anything Gojo has.

It's not just 6 eyes and limitless. His h2h skills. Amount of cursed energy. Battle smarts. Etc.

Nobody can match it.

Maybe there are people who are better in some ways.

But overall Gojo has too much.

And I severely doubt previous users of 6E and Limitless had a DE as powerful as UV

 

[matt245]

Again your point hinges on who uses them and not the abilities themselves. As a single ability, the adaptation is the most broken ability. UV can be avoided if your domain is strong enough. Nothing can stop Mahoraga from adapting unless you kill it. But like I said, you stop any ability when you kill someone.

Mahoraga killed the previous 6 eyes and limitless user. Meaning it alone managed to adapt to limitless, because no one ever tamed it so they couldn't use it like Sukuna does.

Which is my entire point. As far as the abilities themselves go, the ability to adapt to anything is the most busted thing.



Yeah but it's Gojo's skills that make it so strong. Previous 6 eyes and limitless users were never hailed to be the strongest or something like that. It's Satoru and Satoru alone. Because he took it to the next level. Like I said, Satoru alone would bodybag the previous 6 eyes and limitless user and the previous 10 shadows user. But that's because Satoru is so strong. Even tho the previous 6 eyes and limitless user got the same CT as Satoru, and the previous 10s user has Mahoraga. But again, Mahoraga lacks in other stats compared to the top of the verse, however, it has the single most busted ability on its own.


My entire point here is that there is no stopping Maho's adaptation besides outright killing it. As far as the ability itself goes it's the most busted. The rest of course depends on the wielder. As we've seen limitless lost to Mahoraga alone. In a vacuum, independent of who uses the ability, as in the ability itself only, it's the most busted thing.

With this ability you can do things no one can. Not even Gojo or Sukuna can break binding vows without consequence. But Mahoraga's ability should allow even that.

Yes, you can adapt with Maho's ability and there is no coming back but as I said, there is a HUGE drawback; you gotta tank hits before you adapt. Infinity is a free pass to almost everything for the get go; Maho is a free pass to everything after you take enough hits. For infinity you can bypass it with DA (which was proven ineffective alr) and DE (which is the same thing for Maho as you ain't surviving a direct DE).
It's a give and take, a matter of person preference I'd say. Do you want to risk taking hits to become invincible or do you want to be almost always invincible without having to take any damage?

Regarding Maho vs Past S6 eyes; as you pointed out; Gojo is superior to them and seeing how Sukuna manhandled Maho; it's safe to assume that the past Limitless user was weaker than 15F Sukuna. Meanwhile we have Gojo, who was confident on one shotting Maho before he adapted. So I don't get your point with this.
(Something that I'd like to note is that we are yet to see the 10th Shikigami. Granted, he may be irrelevant/too weak but one is never sure.)

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Yes, you can adapt with Maho's ability and there is no coming back but as I said, there is a HUGE drawback; you gotta tank hits before you adapt. Infinity is a free pass to almost everything for the get go; Maho is a free pass to everything after you take enough hits. For infinity you can bypass it with DA (which was proven ineffective alr) and DE (which is the same thing for Maho as you ain't surviving a direct DE).
It's a give and take, a matter of person preference I'd say. Do you want to risk taking hits to become invincible or do you want to be almost always invincible without having to take any damage?

Again you're conflating terms because you're comparing the users and Satoru's infinity with Maho's adaptation. Satoru's infinity is special. Satoru's infinity can still be neutralized by DA but Satoru is so strong it doesn't really matter. Sukuna with DA would whop the previous six eyes and limitless user most likely. But Satoru is whopping Sukuna because Satoru is that strong. Satoru makes his infinity that strong. Maho's ability is that strong on its own. If you're not Satoru, even with the six eyes you can't use infinity like Satoru can. You'll fry your brain. And infinity on its own is an active ability. You have to use it unless you're Satoru Gojo. This is why I keep saying, in a vacuum, without looking at the users, Mahoraga's ability is more busted.

Regarding Maho vs Past S6 eyes; as you pointed out; Gojo is superior to them and seeing how Sukuna manhandled Maho; it's safe to assume that the past Limitless user was weaker than 15F Sukuna. Meanwhile we have Gojo, who was confident on one shotting Maho before he adapted. So I don't get your point with this.

That is my point lol. That with fighters around the same level Maho's adaptation already proved superior to infinity because it managed to adapt to it and kill the 6 eyes and limitless user. You're confused about it because you keep comparing it to Satoru. I am talking about abilities themselves. Like I've been saying for the past 5 posts. Satoru would kill Mahoraga, the 10s guy and the 6 eyes guy, because Satoru is THAT strong. He has it all.

(Something that I'd like to note is that we are yet to see the 10th Shikigami. Granted, he may be irrelevant/too weak but one is never sure.)

It's gonna end up being this dragon thingy

 

[Mr.9000]

I need Megumi to wake up; he cant let this fraud win. Gojo wont die, until Sukuna is defeated.