Character Discussion Just A Mihawk Reminder
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I think it should because we saw Loki kill Harald and though this feat has an asterisk the possibility of killing a HK stands. And when you consider that the lethality factor is highest for swords then the required AP should be a possibility for the WSS.
I have told my views on the WS titles before but the gist is that the eras are different for all three. And because we haven't seen them defeated hence their title stands. Kaido being stronger than WB individually is canon as per Ace Novel. And the titles of WB and Kaido are tied to their fruits too. WB because he can destroy the world and the reason why BB proclaimed himself the strongest after eating the DF. And Kaido because of his invincibility and a guardian diety DF. And these guys have top tier individual strength too instead of being just DF merchants. You can notice how their strength is again highlighted in the Road to LT magazine where the weapons and their grades are discussed and how their weapons are able to channel their full strength without breaking. And this is also the reason why I think Mihawk has more AP since his weapon is the strongest and toughest/unbreakable to channel his max strength without breaking.
And lastly Venusjuro has more claim in this argument since his level of seal is even higher than the HKs supposedly.
I have told my views on the WS titles before but the gist is that the eras are different for all three. And because we haven't seen them defeated hence their title stands. Kaido being stronger than WB individually is canon as per Ace Novel. And the titles of WB and Kaido are tied to their fruits too. WB because he can destroy the world and the reason why BB proclaimed himself the strongest after eating the DF. And Kaido because of his invincibility and a guardian diety DF. And these guys have top tier individual strength too instead of being just DF merchants. You can notice how their strength is again highlighted in the Road to LT magazine where the weapons and their grades are discussed and how their weapons are able to channel their full strength without breaking. And this is also the reason why I think Mihawk has more AP since his weapon is the strongest and toughest/unbreakable to channel his max strength without breaking.
And lastly Venusjuro has more claim in this argument since his level of seal is even higher than the HKs supposedly.
Loki killing Harald has no asterisk because before it did happen it was stated only Loki with DF can actually kill him. Harald letting himself be hit has no relevance to Loki attack overcoming regeneration which is passive ability .
Yes you yourself confirmed titles are because of their devil fruits and not because they defeated everyone noteworthy in the world. Seeing how Kaido can turn into a dragon and is Oni no wonder he was given strongest creature , and seeing how WB can literally destroy island no wonder he got WSM title. They were given titles because people considered them strongest .
It doesnt matter MIhawk is from different era , he never did anything noteworthy that would cause people to consider him WSM / WSC instead of those 2.
Mihawk title may be the most legit one because he did actually want to become WSS and was defeating his opponents for that. Yet we also know he did not fight every swordsman outthere . We know he never fought Vista , most likely Fujitora too and for certain he was not facing Shamrock in his quest for becoming WSS.
Unless Oda makes him regeneration merchant like rest of HK and Gorosei for me Shamrock is Shanks with both hands ( manga literally stated their talent / potential is equal ) plus Imu buffs with Cerberus sword .
Yes you yourself confirmed titles are because of their devil fruits and not because they defeated everyone noteworthy in the world. Seeing how Kaido can turn into a dragon and is Oni no wonder he was given strongest creature , and seeing how WB can literally destroy island no wonder he got WSM title. They were given titles because people considered them strongest .
It doesnt matter MIhawk is from different era , he never did anything noteworthy that would cause people to consider him WSM / WSC instead of those 2.
Mihawk title may be the most legit one because he did actually want to become WSS and was defeating his opponents for that. Yet we also know he did not fight every swordsman outthere . We know he never fought Vista , most likely Fujitora too and for certain he was not facing Shamrock in his quest for becoming WSS.
Unless Oda makes him regeneration merchant like rest of HK and Gorosei for me Shamrock is Shanks with both hands ( manga literally stated their talent / potential is equal ) plus Imu buffs with Cerberus sword .
It will always have an asterisk because Harald was not fighting back, even in his fight with Shanks and Gaban he had already returned the legendary sword. Was Lokis AP higher than Gaban/Shanks? Most likely and which resulted in Harald taking quite a bit of damage. Do you think Harald was using CoC barrier when he told Loki to kill him?
Yes, idk why you are repeating stuff. The point is that their strength, power and feats were what got them the title instead of them going around and fighting everyone to prove they are the strongest.
Bro, you are mixing things up and this is probably due to anti Mihawk propaganda messing things up. Mihawks title is absolute compared to the other two. He made a name for himself before the Great Pirate era, he fought until no worthy opponents were left, he is WSS in name and reality, he is waiting for someone to surpass his rival Shanks and challenge him.
That is such a stupid argument, you haven't fought every swordsman and beaten them hence you cant be called WSS. Wtf is that logic.
And with all that unless Shamrock has haki greater than Venusjuro he will still be weaker than Venusjuro.
Yes, idk why you are repeating stuff. The point is that their strength, power and feats were what got them the title instead of them going around and fighting everyone to prove they are the strongest.
Bro, you are mixing things up and this is probably due to anti Mihawk propaganda messing things up. Mihawks title is absolute compared to the other two. He made a name for himself before the Great Pirate era, he fought until no worthy opponents were left, he is WSS in name and reality, he is waiting for someone to surpass his rival Shanks and challenge him.
That is such a stupid argument, you haven't fought every swordsman and beaten them hence you cant be called WSS. Wtf is that logic.
And with all that unless Shamrock has haki greater than Venusjuro he will still be weaker than Venusjuro.
Mihawk title being absolute does not change the fact his accomplishments / feats never made people treat him as world strongest man /creature .
You crying how his title is most legit one does not change the fact someone ( could be group of people , could be navy as organisation , Morgan news ) gave it to him and thats their restricted knowledge on subject . Holy knights are secret organisation that rarely interacts with outside world .
And we are not debating Mihawk superiority as swordsman to SHamrock but his ability to counter Imu granted immortality which are completely different things.
You crying how his title is most legit one does not change the fact someone ( could be group of people , could be navy as organisation , Morgan news ) gave it to him and thats their restricted knowledge on subject . Holy knights are secret organisation that rarely interacts with outside world .
And we are not debating Mihawk superiority as swordsman to SHamrock but his ability to counter Imu granted immortality which are completely different things.
They treated him as the worlds strongest swordsman, a better title for a fighter. No ones picking the Mountain over Klitcshko as a fighter.
Again the title given to Mihawk is given by the author and solidified every single fucking time, in name and reality. Are HKs unknown to the marines? Why are the marines calling Mihawk the WSS then?
You seriously expect that Imu buffed immortality wont have a counter when the WG needs to be taken down and there are like 18 characters who have this buff (13 HKs and 5 Elders, idk if the 13 number includes the Gorosei). And the people who will counter them will have AP/power that Shanks/Mihawk dont have?
Again the title given to Mihawk is given by the author and solidified every single fucking time, in name and reality. Are HKs unknown to the marines? Why are the marines calling Mihawk the WSS then?
You seriously expect that Imu buffed immortality wont have a counter when the WG needs to be taken down and there are like 18 characters who have this buff (13 HKs and 5 Elders, idk if the 13 number includes the Gorosei). And the people who will counter them will have AP/power that Shanks/Mihawk dont have?
