General & Others Just another warlord

[ZenZu]

You can when you remember crocodile has a 2 billion berry bounty comparable to Blackbeards

Jinbe’s bounty more than doubled just after joining Luffy’s crew

Fodder like dorry and brogy have 1.8 billion bounties

Kid and Law have an equal bounty to awakened Nika fruit Luffy who’s an emperor

Caribou and his random brother had 200 million berry bounties for hunting marines and they were genuine fodder

And yet none of them have bounties higher than Admirals and Yonkou.

And Crocodile's bounty is 1.6 bill apart from Mihawk which is a massive gap.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

You do realize the reason they aren’t even able to achieve the utopia goal is because they don’t have enough strength right?

Part of it is strength but a lot of it is ambition, the kind of ambition that accepts no plan is 100 % but even if it's only 25-75 % it might be worth going for it (Crocodile and Mihawk are far too cautious for this).

Regarding Mihawks strength I have no doubt its legit. 100 % clearing Big Mom. Toss up regarding Kaido until we see more but given Shanks (likely Shamrock) stopped Kaido from going to Marineford Mihawk scales to that and should defeat Kaido too.

Crocodiles strength, like Doflamingos if he flees Impel Down, will be around YC1/Shichibukai (just one step down from Yonko). So of course Mihawk and Croc are a force by themselves but they could still be overwhelmed by numbers.

But what the boys really lucked out with was Buggy providing what they lacked - real ambition and a bit of guts.

If Mihawk and Crocodile were left to their own devices they would "slowly build" just like Kaidos or Big Mom did for 30-40 years with absolutely nothing to show for it. In fact the WG loved the Yonkos little stalemate. Instead it took guys like BB, Law, Luffy, Sabo and (lol) Buggy doing outrageous things to actually make the Gorosei and later Imu himself come down to the Blue Seas. And that in turn triggered Dragon. Already pulling strings to starve the CD and soon finally will join the battle on the front lines.

 

[Albino 👑]

And yet none of them have bounties higher than Admirals and Yonkou.

And Crocodile's bounty is 1.6 bill apart from Mihawk which is a massive gap.

Kid and law have higher bounties than pre onigashima Blackbeard and equal to Luffy’s


Mihawk has done a lot more than crocodile. Feat wise mihawk’s best accomplishment is fighting pre billion berry shanks
We know he used to have beef with marines and go out of his way to fight them. We also know he has religious ties which can imply he knows of Davy or joyboy. There’s also the Imu shit that I personally don’t believe but that would also bounty boost

 

[ZenZu]

Kid and law have higher bounties than pre onigashima Blackbeard and equal to Luffy’s


Mihawk has done a lot more than crocodile. Feat wise mihawk’s best accomplishment is fighting pre billion berry shanks
We know he used to have beef with marines and go out of his way to fight them. We also know he has religious ties which can imply he knows of Davy or joyboy. There’s also the Imu shit that I personally don’t believe but that would also bounty boost

Law literally got jumped by Blackbeard and some of his commanders and still had him work like a mule. Reasonable enough tbh.

Law and Kidd got their bounties off a 3 way split between them and Luffy for taking out 2 Yonkou. Mihawk has no such event that we know of. Just his strength was assessed, referencing his swordsmanship. Obviously fodder Marine hunting isn't warranting a 3.6 bil bounty, unless he took out an Admiral or something.

And besides your argument is just another Warlord, so then it would be easy for Oda to just give him an equal bounty to Crocodile like he did with Law Luffy Kidd....but nope he gave him 1.6 bill higher than the next highest Warlord. So clearly not the case.

 

[Rurushu]

Kid and law have higher bounties than pre onigashima Blackbeard and equal to Luffy’s


Mihawk has done a lot more than crocodile. Feat wise mihawk’s best accomplishment is fighting pre billion berry shanks
We know he used to have beef with marines and go out of his way to fight them. We also know he has religious ties which can imply he knows of Davy or joyboy. There’s also the Imu shit that I personally don’t believe but that would also bounty boost

It's really hilarious how author straight up gave an explanation behind their bounties on the very same panel, just so you could sit here and pretend that Mihawk’s bounty is more inflated than Crocodile’s.

Spoiler: 1058

Like Brannew literally tell us that Croc's bounty based on two external things outside of combat but can't even mention how much Mihawk being this big bad Marine hunter and having faith in God inflated his bounty to the moon based on your interpretation.

Also him bringing up fucking Emperor to hype up Mihawk's combat strength but yeah he is just another Warlord i guess.



P.S. Also as ZenZu said why just don't give him the same or close bounty as for other Warlords?

Like you do understand that your cope reasoning does not exist in the story itself right?

Not once Oda empathized that anything you're mentioning inflated Mihawk's bounty much more than other Warlords to justify this huge ass gap between them(He actually did the opposite with Crocodile and Buggy)

So it's begs the question what the point for Mihawk having double of the second Warlords bounty if they're actually relative in strength? Especially when they're in the same fucking crew

 

[Albino 👑]

Law literally got jumped by Blackbeard and some of his commanders and still had him work like a mule. Reasonable enough tbh.

Law and Kidd got their bounties off a 3 way split between them and Luffy for taking out 2 Yonkou. Mihawk has no such event that we know of. Just his strength was assessed, referencing his swordsmanship. Obviously fodder Marine hunting isn't warranting a 3.6 bil bounty, unless he took out an Admiral or something.

And besides your argument is just another Warlord, so then it would be easy for Oda to just give him an equal bounty to Crocodile like he did with Law Luffy Kidd....but nope he gave him 1.6 bill higher than the next highest Warlord. So clearly not the case.

Law isn’t a top tier
Also it’s Blackbeard. He’s basically the big mom to shanks’s Kaido both getting constantly clowned on despite their strength

I understand how kid and law got their bounties but it’s still ridiculous to compare them to any emperor crew

Mihawk’s best known accomplishment is fighting a Shanks that Blackbeard scarred. The last time they fought being 13 years ago. That same shanks only had a billion berry bounty. So yeah there’s 100% more to mihawk’s bounty than his fight with shanks all the way back then

None of the warlords have equal bounties
Luffy kid and law have the same bounties because they worked together in onigashima. Same way with Luffy and Law in dressrosa or dorry and brogy’s whole careers. Crocodile and Mihawk have different past and accomplishments so they wouldn’t have the same bounty.

It's really hilarious how author straight up gave an explanation behind their bounties on the very same panel, just so you could sit here and pretend that Mihawk’s bounty is more inflated than Crocodile’s.

Spoiler: 1058

Like Brannew literally tell us that Croc's bounty based on two external things outside of combat but can't even mention how much Mihawk being this big bad Marine hunter and having faith in God inflated his bounty to the moon based on your interpretation.

Also him bringing up fucking Emperor to hype up Mihawk's combat strength but yeah he is just another Warlord i guess.



P.S. Also as ZenZu said why just don't give him the same or close bounty as for other Warlords?

Like you do understand that your cope reasoning does not exist in the story itself right?

Not once Oda empathized that anything you're mentioning inflated Mihawk's bounty much more than other Warlords to justify this huge ass gap between them(He actually did the opposite with Crocodile and Buggy)

So it's begs the question what the point for Mihawk having double of the second Warlords bounty if they're actually relative in strength? Especially when they're in the same fucking crew

The last time they fought was before Shanks’s 1 billion berry bounty. If mihawk’s bounty was just based on him fighting shanks 13 years ago it’d be significantly lower

Tho yes all the warlord’s bounties are extremely inflated. Jinbe’s bounty more than doubled. Crocodile has a bounty 100 of millions above any other emperor right hand

 

[Boiroy]

Law isn’t a top tier
Also it’s Blackbeard. He’s basically the big mom to shanks’s Kaido both getting constantly clowned on despite their strength

I understand how kid and law got their bounties but it’s still ridiculous to compare them to any emperor crew

Mihawk’s best known accomplishment is fighting a Shanks that Blackbeard scarred. The last time they fought being 13 years ago. That same shanks only had a billion berry bounty. So yeah there’s 100% more to mihawk’s bounty than his fight with shanks all the way back then

None of the warlords have equal bounties
Luffy kid and law have the same bounties because they worked together in onigashima. Same way with Luffy and Law in dressrosa or dorry and brogy’s whole careers. Crocodile and Mihawk have different past and accomplishments so they wouldn’t have the same bounty.

The last time they fought was before Shanks’s 1 billion berry bounty. If mihawk’s bounty was just based on him fighting shanks 13 years ago it’d be significantly lower

Tho yes all the warlord’s bounties are extremely inflated. Jinbe’s bounty more than doubled. Crocodile has a bounty 100 of millions above any other emperor right hand

Get some sleep bitch

 

[JDragon20]

Bro thinks about Mihawk than Zoro Bros 😂

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Knowing my favourite character is weaker than this poorly written plot device bum whose only purpose is to be a loser at the end of the story with a fanbase full of rabid roaches really stings. This is why I dropped this garbage manga

 

[Rurushu]

The last time they fought was before Shanks’s 1 billion berry bounty. If mihawk’s bounty was just based on him fighting shanks 13 years ago it’d be significantly lower

... that's why it doesn't based on that?
It's based on him being current world's strongest swordsman and having superior swordsmanship to Emperor Shanks.

And yes there's something else that boost his bounty but the core of it and the only part that Oda wanted to empathize and give us as explanation is his strength. It's really not that hard to get the author's intent here but for some reason you can't.

Tho yes all the warlord’s bounties are extremely inflated. Jinbe’s bounty more than doubled. Crocodile has a bounty 100 of millions above any other emperor right hand

And we know that Mihawk's is the most strength based out all of them because Oda literally highlighted it. So you can't cope about Mihawk's bounty not being an argument for him to absolutely shitstomp bums like Crocodile when its absolutely is.

 

[Albino 👑]

... that's why it doesn't based on that?
It's based on him being current world's strongest swordsman and having superior swordsmanship to Emperor Shanks.

And yes there's something else that boost his bounty but the core of it and the only part that Oda wanted to empathize and give us as explanation is his strength. It's really not that hard to get the author's intent here but for some reason you can't.


And we know that Mihawk's is the most strength based out all of them because Oda literally highlighted it. So you can't cope about Mihawk's bounty not being an argument for him to absolutely shitstomp bums like Crocodile when its absolutely is.

Who did Mihawk fight to prove that? Did him fighting shanks 13+ years ago make him the strongest swordsman?
If mihawk’s sword skill is said to be greater than shanks’s something had to happen to prove that. So what do you think it was

When his greatest known accomplishment is fighting pre billion berry shanks then no it’s not cope lol. If Whitebeard or Kaido’s greatest achievement in their pirating careers was fighting a shanks fruitless Blackbeard scarred they shouldn’t get any benefit either

 

[Rurushu]

Who did Mihawk fight to prove that? Did him fighting shanks 13+ years ago make him the strongest swordsman?
If mihawk’s sword skill is said to be greater than shanks’s something had to happen to prove that. So what do you think it was

Idk when Mihawk get his title and i don't like to speculate on things so idc

Him having superior swordsmanship to current Shanks and getting 3.6B bounty is the evidence of his grow since his battles with Shanks 13 years ago. That much is canon.

When his greatest known accomplishment is fighting pre billion berry shanks then no it’s not cope lol. If Whitebeard or Kaido’s greatest achievement in their pirating careers was fighting a shanks fruitless Blackbeard scarred they shouldn’t get any benefit either

If his greatest known accomplishment in the verse was really him fighting Shanks 13 yeras ago then he wouldn't be WSS and he wouldn't have 3.6B bounty. But since he is WSS and have that bounty it's not the case.

 

[Albino 👑]

Idk when Mihawk get his title and i don't like to speculate on things so idc

Him having superior swordsmanship to current Shanks and getting 3.6B bounty is the evidence of his grow since his battles with Shanks 13 years ago. That much is canon.


If his greatest known accomplishment in the verse was really him fighting Shanks 13 yeras ago then he wouldn't be WSS and he wouldn't have 3.6B bounty. But since he is WSS and have that bounty it's not the case.

What is Mihawk’s greatest accomplishment if it’s not fighting shanks 13+ years ago?

There’s no issue with saying mihawk is stronger than he was back then the problem is he hasn’t fought Shanks in over a decade and Shanks is still being used as a measuring device for mihawk’s sword skill

If he’s fought someone more impressive than Shanks back then that would be used instead but nope
You can’t say how he got his title or if he’s ever even done anything better than fighting shanks 13 years ago

 

[Rurushu]

What is Mihawk’s greatest accomplishment if it’s not fighting shanks 13+ years ago?

Idk

There’s no issue with saying mihawk is stronger than he was back then the problem is he hasn’t fought Shanks in over a decade and Shanks is still being used as a measuring device for mihawk’s sword skill

Your whole argument is that he should have bounty lower than a billion for strength because you think that he's greatest accomplishment in the verse is fighting 27 y/o Shanks.
Clear evidence of his growth debunke that lol how it's no issue for your argument here?
Shanks is used because he have the second strongest swordsmanship right now in the world.

If he’s fought someone more impressive than Shanks back then that would be used instead but nope
You can’t say how he got his title or if he’s ever even done anything better than fighting shanks 13 years ago

No?
That's someone needs to be alive rn and have stronger swordsmanship than current Shanks who is used as hypetool for Mihawk's combat strength.
Mihawk could fought a 10 characters stronger than 27 y/o Shanks in the past but if none of them is relevant rn than they wouldn't be used to hype him when Shanks exist.

Anyway. Your original argument was that Mihawk's bounty is insanely inflated because of external factors other than strength. Not only that you go as far as claim/imply that Crocodile's bounty is much less inflated.

- Both things are horseshit because we literally have Marines explaining on what their bounties are based for.

- Funny enough Crocodile have a few external factors outside of strength empathized for them but Mihawk only highlighted for his combat abilities.

- Now you are trying to argue that Mihawk's greatest known achievement in the verse is fighting 27 y/o Shanks SOOO his bounty should be lower than a billion for strength while we already know that the core and what his bounty is majorly based for IS strength.

 

[Albino 👑]

Idk


Your whole argument is that he should have bounty lower than a billion for strength because you think that he's greatest accomplishment in the verse is fighting 27 y/o Shanks.
Clear evidence of his growth debunke that lol how it's no issue for your argument here?
Shanks is used because he have the second strongest swordsmanship right now in the world.


No?
That's someone needs to be alive rn and have stronger swordsmanship than current Shanks who is used as hypetool for Mihawk's combat strength.
Mihawk could fought a 10 characters stronger than 27 y/o Shanks in the past but if none of them is relevant rn than they wouldn't be used to hype him when Shanks exist.

Yes your bounty is only based on known information and accomplishments. You can’t have a bounty based on not known information.

Blackbeard despite scarring shanks had no bounty for the longest because it wasn’t known. It doesn’t matter if you’re goku level but if the world government doesn’t know shit about you besides the fact you’re greatest known accomplishment is beating Kuro your bounty is going to be shit

Laffitte was known more and higher bounty than Blackbeard despite him being a wbp and killing a commander

??
If Mihawk fought better swordsmen than shanks they’d be used instead lol. Them being greater swordsmen would make them more relevant to Mihawk’s title lol

Do you think shanks 13 years ago when they fought was the strongest swordsman?

 

[Rurushu]

Yes your bounty is only based on known information and accomplishments. You can’t have a bounty based on not known information.

Blackbeard despite scarring shanks had no bounty for the longest because it wasn’t known. It doesn’t matter if you’re goku level but if the world government doesn’t know shit about you besides the fact you’re greatest known accomplishment is beating Kuro your bounty is going to be shit

Laffitte was known more and higher bounty than Blackbeard despite him being a wbp and killing a commander

Okay???
I didn't say that Mihawk's growth in strength is unknown to the public or Marines. The fact that they are using Emperor Shanks and give him huge bounty is the clear evidence that they acknowledge it.
Idk with who you arguing here.

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If Mihawk fought better swordsmen than shanks they’d be used instead lol. Them being greater swordsmen would make them more relevant to Mihawk’s title lol

Do you think shanks 13 years ago when they fought was the strongest swordsman?

No?
Again that swordsmen needs to be
1. Alive right now.
2. Have stronger swordsmanship than current Shanks.

Even if Shanks is "not a swordsmen" he still have second strongest swordsmanship right now which they USE for comparison with Mihawk. Why use someone who is weaker than Shanks in that category to empathize Mihawk's strength?

Also:

Anyway. Your original argument was that Mihawk's bounty is insanely inflated because of external factors other than strength. Not only that you go as far as claim/imply that Crocodile's bounty is much less inflated.



- Both things are horseshit because we literally have Marines explaining on what their bounties are based for.



- Funny enough Crocodile have a few external factors outside of strength empathized for him but Mihawk only highlighted for his combat abilities.



- Now you are trying to argue that Mihawk's greatest known achievement in the verse is fighting 27 y/o Shanks SOOO his bounty should be lower than a billion for strength while we already know that the core and what his bounty is majorly based for IS strength.

 

[kekaro]

@Rurushu aint no way you are arguing seriously with bino bro

 

[Rurushu]

@Rurushu aint no way you are arguing seriously with bino bro

Probably enough.
Yeah.

 

[Albino 👑]

Okay???
I didn't say that Mihawk's growth in strength is unknown to the public or Marines. The fact that they are using Emperor Shanks and give him huge bounty is the clear evidence that they acknowledge it.
Idk with who you arguing here.

Okay so please tell me what Mihawk has done that’s more impressive than his fight with shanks 13 years ago? The last time they fought shank had a billion berry bounty, 2 arms, and was scarred by fruitless Blackbeard

No?
Again that swordsmen needs to be
1. Alive right now.
2. Have stronger swordsmanship than current Shanks.

Even if Shanks is "not a swordsmen" he still have second strongest swordsmanship right now which they USE for comparison with Mihawk. Why use someone who is weaker than Shanks in that category to empathize Mihawk's strength?

Again you’re still using Shanks without acknowledging what mihawk has done to prove his superiority. Did mihawk become the wss because he beat shanks a decade ago or because shanks lost his arm or what?
There’s no problem using shanks or saying Mihawk has greater sword skill but answer what he did to prove that

Anyway. Your original argument was that Mihawk's bounty is insanely inflated because of external factors other than strength. Not only that you go as far as claim/imply that Crocodile's bounty is much less inflated.

- Both things are horseshit because we literally have Marines explaining on what their bounties are based for.

- Funny enough Crocodile have a few external factors outside of strength empathized for them but Mihawk only highlighted for his combat abilities.

- Now you are trying to argue that Mihawk's greatest known achievement in the verse is fighting 27 y/o Shanks SOOO his bounty should be lower than a billion for strength while we already know that the core and what his bounty is majorly based for IS strength.

No all of their bounties are inflated in general and bounty has never been something that measures strength. Bounty measures known accomplishment
Doesn’t matter how strong a character is if they don’t fight strong characters or do anything against the world government

Crocodile’s greatest known feat is losing to Whitebeard. Sure he’s smart but like Moria or even Hancock he doesn’t have a known famous fight
Mihawk greatest known accomplishments are hunting down marines and fighting Shanks. Which in a way is better than just losing to a top tier

• Mihawk having beef with the marines could also hint at him being special. Whether it’s having a special knowledge or family. Which is more than strength based

 

[Djordje]

Nothing but facts here. Only actual place where he stood out is inside Zoro fans headcanon.