Character Discussion Just another Yamato4nakama theory

#22
First of all i am a pattern believer, so i am going to point out every nakama theories that had been made by other person in the past, and try to tie them up to the possibility of Yamato joining the crew. For those who dont believe in pattern, feel free to believe what you believe.


Second, im a very lazy person, too lazy to put image, and sometimes too lazy to explain things that are already obvious. Also, there might be others that made a thread and pointed all of this, but again I'm so lazy to scroll down. so im sorry for all the inconveniences.


Third, i'll do my best to make it short as I believe most readers here are already familiar with the pattern theories.


Allright lets get going


1. The mfmm pattern.
- In east blue, nami is joining after Zoro
- In Paradise, Robin is joining after Chopper
- In NW, Jimbei is already joining and take the the first male spot in mfmm pattern. Lets stick to the pattern that the next one will be a female.


There are a lot of potential female candidats I know, but im going to stick to Yamato as the female that will join next to Jimbe as She fits the most in every existed patterns.


2. All the females characters have a role that is related to the direction of the journey so that the crew won't get lost.
- Nami is a navigator, no need an explanation here.
- Robin can read Poneglyph, well without her, no-one can read those red poneglyphs which is the key to go to Laughtale.
- As for Yamato, She holds Oden's Journal for 20 years. I believe it will play important role for the strawhats to know which direction they need to take. There must be some important informations related to how to reach Laughtale or at least where to find the last red poneglyph.


3. All the female characters are members of the a pirate crew in which they didn't really want to be a part of.
- Nami was a member of the Sun pirates.
- Robin was a member of baroque works.
- Yamato is a member of the beast pirates.


4. The alphabet pattern.
This will sound farfetched for Yamato to fit in the pattern, but I believe Oda intentionally put some Twist on his patterns such as Yamato consider herself as a man and she consider herself as 'Oden'.


Alright here it goes the pattern :
AB Brook
CD Chopper
EF Franky
GH ????
IJ Jimbe
KL Luffy
MN Nami
OP ????
QR Robin
ST Sanji
UV Ussop
WX ????
YZ Zoro


I believe Yamato will fit the OP slot as She consider herself as 'Oden'. Yea as I said it sounds farfecthed, but it is just my opinion.


I know that Pudding also fit that slot if it is only by her name, but her devil fruit doesn't fit the gorowase patterns that appeared in SBS (I forgot which volume and too lazy to do some research. And I won't point out that pattern in this theory as it isn't confirmed that Yamato has a devil fruit.)


I know Carrot's fan will say that OP can stand for Carrot with an excuse of her inheriting Pedro's will but She never consider herself as Pedro, yet Yamato keep calling herself 'Oden'.


5. Parallel to Chinese novel, Journey to the West.


I think it is obvious that the manga is a parallel of that novel, there has been so many theories about this even a really good one mentioning that both story is a journey from east to the the west ( China to India, East blue to Laughtale).


So let's see the parallel of that novel with Shs crew :


- Luffy as Sun wukong, the Monkey king, obvious.
- Sanji as Zhu Bajie, the pig (Woman lover, related to food)
- Jimbei as Sha Wujing, (both are water creature that become stronger when they are underwater)
- Zoro as Tang Sanzang, the monk, ( it is an interesting twist that in the novel, it was the monk that freed Sun wukong from the mountain prison, and in the manga it was Luffy who freed Zoro from Morgan's prison as if the monkey King freed the monk)


- There is another character in that novel, which is the white dragon horse that carried Tang Sanzang throughout the journey. And in that novel, the horse is the son of the Dragon King. We know who is the dragon here in the manga and he also have a child. So Yamato represent the white dragon horse.


As for color scheme, animals, and other patterns, I'm just too lazy to do the research and to point them out, again, I'm sorry.


So that's it. For me, Yamato is joining. Hopefully you guys enjoy the read and I'm sorry for my bad English and grammatical mistakes.

I might not respond to all of the commentary if somehow anyone is interested enough to drop a comment or two, please excuse my incredible laziness for that. My main purpose is just to express my thought.

First of all, I want to say that you did a great job summarizing things. But for the MFMM pattern, it’s a bit debatable in my opinion. If Oda use the same MFMM pattern again, isn’t it too predictable? Not to mention that we have to think widely also; 10 male - 3 females. The females are still not comparable with 10 males, so I suggest 9 males & 4 females. And the other thing is merchandise related stuff. Just imagine that having 13 main members, where Luffy is in the middle, then 6-6 members on each side; each side consists of 4 male & 2 females. This happened so much already before Jinbe joined the crew, with the 9 members.

Another thing for sure is about “bad luck”. It’s a myth in Pirate world that bringing woman/women to the crew brings bad luck. Hence, Nami & Robin’s epithet are more on the bad side than good side (Burglar Cat & Devil Child). What is another bad luck? Number 4, which is read as “shi”, the same like how Japanese pronounce “death”.

Additional interesting thing to note is about their powerset. Nami is a non-DF user, Robin is a Paramecia DF user, and Yamato is (most probably) a Zoan DF user. What’s left is a female, and only Logia user in the crew. If Yamato joins, there are 3 Paramecia users, 2 Zoan users, and that’s left is a Logia user. I think that the Logia is a female, is what has Oda been hinting all time; almost every single Logia user is men, the only Logia user which is a woman is Monet and she is presumed dead. And I agree that although Yamato may not fit the YZ pattern, she might be changing her name into “Oden” or “Ouyama”, as we can see in current chapter that Yamato wants to severe the chains that bound her with Kaido, and I believe that is her identity as Kaido’s “son”.


for the colour theory, I might have crazy theory but so far it’s reasonable. The 6 main colours of the rainbow is coincidentally the 6 “human” members of the Straw Hat:
Luffy - Red
Nami - Orange
Usopp - Yellow
Zoro - Green
Sanji - Blue
Robin - Violet

What I say as “human” is human both inside and out; Franky & Brook may be human before, but they are not fully human inside and out. Brook’s colour is Black & White. I have presumed, that Black & White represents “Stronger” & “Weaker”. Let’s see from the example:

Chopper - pink (lighter shade of red)
Franky - cyan (lighter shade of blue)

Why is that so? Because Chopper is definitely weaker than Luffy, and Franky is definitely weaker than Sanji. The most prominent example currently is Jinbe’s signature colour, which is Ochre; in Japanese it’s “黄土色” (Oudoiro) or “Yellow earth colour”. I presume Jinbe’s signature colour belongs to yellow part, and Ochre is a deeper shade of yellow. And what is it? Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. Why Oda chose Ochre, an uncommon colour to represent Jinbe? Oda should’ve chosen just plain Brown “茶色” (Chairo) but Oda chose Ochre as a sign that Ochre is deeper shade of Yellow, because Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. So all that’s left is purple, green, and orange.


I believe that for green part, it must be lighter shade of green, because Zoro’s colour is green & the one who represents light shade of green must be weaker than Zoro. Coincidentally, the “lighter” shades of colours are the Monster Trio: Luffy, Zoro, Sanji; Red, Green, Blue. I still have no idea whether the one who represents violet will be weaker/stronger than Robin because Robin is currently among the top 5 fighters in SHP, although Robin is more brain than brawl. But for orange part, it’s most definitely the deeper shade of orange which I presume: Yamato.

So the colour part is most likely like this:



So the ones left are purple & green. I suggest Yamato might be deeper shade of orange because her horns are shades of red to orange, and she wears red pants.
 
#23
First of all, I want to say that you did a great job summarizing things. But for the MFMM pattern, it’s a bit debatable in my opinion. If Oda use the same MFMM pattern again, isn’t it too predictable? Not to mention that we have to think widely also; 10 male - 3 females. The females are still not comparable with 10 males, so I suggest 9 males & 4 females. And the other thing is merchandise related stuff. Just imagine that having 13 main members, where Luffy is in the middle, then 6-6 members on each side; each side consists of 4 male & 2 females. This happened so much already before Jinbe joined the crew, with the 9 members.

Another thing for sure is about “bad luck”. It’s a myth in Pirate world that bringing woman/women to the crew brings bad luck. Hence, Nami & Robin’s epithet are more on the bad side than good side (Burglar Cat & Devil Child). What is another bad luck? Number 4, which is read as “shi”, the same like how Japanese pronounce “death”.

Additional interesting thing to note is about their powerset. Nami is a non-DF user, Robin is a Paramecia DF user, and Yamato is (most probably) a Zoan DF user. What’s left is a female, and only Logia user in the crew. If Yamato joins, there are 3 Paramecia users, 2 Zoan users, and that’s left is a Logia user. I think that the Logia is a female, is what has Oda been hinting all time; almost every single Logia user is men, the only Logia user which is a woman is Monet and she is presumed dead. And I agree that although Yamato may not fit the YZ pattern, she might be changing her name into “Oden” or “Ouyama”, as we can see in current chapter that Yamato wants to severe the chains that bound her with Kaido, and I believe that is her identity as Kaido’s “son”.


for the colour theory, I might have crazy theory but so far it’s reasonable. The 6 main colours of the rainbow is coincidentally the 6 “human” members of the Straw Hat:
Luffy - Red
Nami - Orange
Usopp - Yellow
Zoro - Green
Sanji - Blue
Robin - Violet

What I say as “human” is human both inside and out; Franky & Brook may be human before, but they are not fully human inside and out. Brook’s colour is Black & White. I have presumed, that Black & White represents “Stronger” & “Weaker”. Let’s see from the example:

Chopper - pink (lighter shade of red)
Franky - cyan (lighter shade of blue)

Why is that so? Because Chopper is definitely weaker than Luffy, and Franky is definitely weaker than Sanji. The most prominent example currently is Jinbe’s signature colour, which is Ochre; in Japanese it’s “黄土色” (Oudoiro) or “Yellow earth colour”. I presume Jinbe’s signature colour belongs to yellow part, and Ochre is a deeper shade of yellow. And what is it? Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. Why Oda chose Ochre, an uncommon colour to represent Jinbe? Oda should’ve chosen just plain Brown “茶色” (Chairo) but Oda chose Ochre as a sign that Ochre is deeper shade of Yellow, because Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. So all that’s left is purple, green, and orange.


I believe that for green part, it must be lighter shade of green, because Zoro’s colour is green & the one who represents light shade of green must be weaker than Zoro. Coincidentally, the “lighter” shades of colours are the Monster Trio: Luffy, Zoro, Sanji; Red, Green, Blue. I still have no idea whether the one who represents violet will be weaker/stronger than Robin because Robin is currently among the top 5 fighters in SHP, although Robin is more brain than brawl. But for orange part, it’s most definitely the deeper shade of orange which I presume: Yamato.

So the colour part is most likely like this:



So the ones left are purple & green. I suggest Yamato might be deeper shade of orange because her horns are shades of red to orange, and she wears red pants.
Your argument for the MFMM pattern is actually make sense and I also like the idea of sh having more females on the crew. But I'm afraid I'll have to stick with the pattern for now until proven otherwise. But I won't be disappointed if Oda decide to break it.

As for Yamato changing her name, that's a great idea and I personally prefer her changing her name with a new one instead of 'Oden'.

And thanks a lot for the color scheme addition! Definitely fit for her.
 
#24
First of all, I want to say that you did a great job summarizing things. But for the MFMM pattern, it’s a bit debatable in my opinion. If Oda use the same MFMM pattern again, isn’t it too predictable? Not to mention that we have to think widely also; 10 male - 3 females. The females are still not comparable with 10 males, so I suggest 9 males & 4 females. And the other thing is merchandise related stuff. Just imagine that having 13 main members, where Luffy is in the middle, then 6-6 members on each side; each side consists of 4 male & 2 females. This happened so much already before Jinbe joined the crew, with the 9 members.

Another thing for sure is about “bad luck”. It’s a myth in Pirate world that bringing woman/women to the crew brings bad luck. Hence, Nami & Robin’s epithet are more on the bad side than good side (Burglar Cat & Devil Child). What is another bad luck? Number 4, which is read as “shi”, the same like how Japanese pronounce “death”.

Additional interesting thing to note is about their powerset. Nami is a non-DF user, Robin is a Paramecia DF user, and Yamato is (most probably) a Zoan DF user. What’s left is a female, and only Logia user in the crew. If Yamato joins, there are 3 Paramecia users, 2 Zoan users, and that’s left is a Logia user. I think that the Logia is a female, is what has Oda been hinting all time; almost every single Logia user is men, the only Logia user which is a woman is Monet and she is presumed dead. And I agree that although Yamato may not fit the YZ pattern, she might be changing her name into “Oden” or “Ouyama”, as we can see in current chapter that Yamato wants to severe the chains that bound her with Kaido, and I believe that is her identity as Kaido’s “son”.


for the colour theory, I might have crazy theory but so far it’s reasonable. The 6 main colours of the rainbow is coincidentally the 6 “human” members of the Straw Hat:
Luffy - Red
Nami - Orange
Usopp - Yellow
Zoro - Green
Sanji - Blue
Robin - Violet

What I say as “human” is human both inside and out; Franky & Brook may be human before, but they are not fully human inside and out. Brook’s colour is Black & White. I have presumed, that Black & White represents “Stronger” & “Weaker”. Let’s see from the example:

Chopper - pink (lighter shade of red)
Franky - cyan (lighter shade of blue)

Why is that so? Because Chopper is definitely weaker than Luffy, and Franky is definitely weaker than Sanji. The most prominent example currently is Jinbe’s signature colour, which is Ochre; in Japanese it’s “黄土色” (Oudoiro) or “Yellow earth colour”. I presume Jinbe’s signature colour belongs to yellow part, and Ochre is a deeper shade of yellow. And what is it? Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. Why Oda chose Ochre, an uncommon colour to represent Jinbe? Oda should’ve chosen just plain Brown “茶色” (Chairo) but Oda chose Ochre as a sign that Ochre is deeper shade of Yellow, because Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. So all that’s left is purple, green, and orange.


I believe that for green part, it must be lighter shade of green, because Zoro’s colour is green & the one who represents light shade of green must be weaker than Zoro. Coincidentally, the “lighter” shades of colours are the Monster Trio: Luffy, Zoro, Sanji; Red, Green, Blue. I still have no idea whether the one who represents violet will be weaker/stronger than Robin because Robin is currently among the top 5 fighters in SHP, although Robin is more brain than brawl. But for orange part, it’s most definitely the deeper shade of orange which I presume: Yamato.

So the colour part is most likely like this:



So the ones left are purple & green. I suggest Yamato might be deeper shade of orange because her horns are shades of red to orange, and she wears red pants.

#Carrot4nakama
 
#26
Your argument for the MFMM pattern is actually make sense and I also like the idea of sh having more females on the crew. But I'm afraid I'll have to stick with the pattern for now until proven otherwise. But I won't be disappointed if Oda decide to break it.

As for Yamato changing her name, that's a great idea and I personally prefer her changing her name with a new one instead of 'Oden'.

And thanks a lot for the color scheme addition! Definitely fit for her.
Hopefully we would have more female members in the end. Too many testosterones in the crew LOL. So far I want to stick the MFMM pattern but even some of Yamato fans are debating her gender *Artur, ahem*, so some Yamato fans consider Yamato is a trans-man, thus making Yamato a male than female. If that does happen, maybe the MFMM pattern is being reversed? So it’s MMFM.

Jinbe (M), Yamato (M), unknown female, unknown male

If Yamato truly changes her name (same case like Franky), I hope Oda would make her name fit the alphabet pattern. Ouyama sounds great, as in Japanese it means “King Yama”, although Oden doesn’t sound bad for her either. If her name is Ouyama, it kinda fits with the female pattern having 1 letter added to each name: Nami - 4 letters; Robin - 5 letters; Ouyama - 6 letters. Coincidentally, Yamato’s name is 6 letters, but her current name doesn’t fit the alphabet pattern.
 
#27
First of all, I want to say that you did a great job summarizing things. But for the MFMM pattern, it’s a bit debatable in my opinion. If Oda use the same MFMM pattern again, isn’t it too predictable? Not to mention that we have to think widely also; 10 male - 3 females. The females are still not comparable with 10 males, so I suggest 9 males & 4 females. And the other thing is merchandise related stuff. Just imagine that having 13 main members, where Luffy is in the middle, then 6-6 members on each side; each side consists of 4 male & 2 females. This happened so much already before Jinbe joined the crew, with the 9 members.

Another thing for sure is about “bad luck”. It’s a myth in Pirate world that bringing woman/women to the crew brings bad luck. Hence, Nami & Robin’s epithet are more on the bad side than good side (Burglar Cat & Devil Child). What is another bad luck? Number 4, which is read as “shi”, the same like how Japanese pronounce “death”.

Additional interesting thing to note is about their powerset. Nami is a non-DF user, Robin is a Paramecia DF user, and Yamato is (most probably) a Zoan DF user. What’s left is a female, and only Logia user in the crew. If Yamato joins, there are 3 Paramecia users, 2 Zoan users, and that’s left is a Logia user. I think that the Logia is a female, is what has Oda been hinting all time; almost every single Logia user is men, the only Logia user which is a woman is Monet and she is presumed dead. And I agree that although Yamato may not fit the YZ pattern, she might be changing her name into “Oden” or “Ouyama”, as we can see in current chapter that Yamato wants to severe the chains that bound her with Kaido, and I believe that is her identity as Kaido’s “son”.


for the colour theory, I might have crazy theory but so far it’s reasonable. The 6 main colours of the rainbow is coincidentally the 6 “human” members of the Straw Hat:
Luffy - Red
Nami - Orange
Usopp - Yellow
Zoro - Green
Sanji - Blue
Robin - Violet

What I say as “human” is human both inside and out; Franky & Brook may be human before, but they are not fully human inside and out. Brook’s colour is Black & White. I have presumed, that Black & White represents “Stronger” & “Weaker”. Let’s see from the example:

Chopper - pink (lighter shade of red)
Franky - cyan (lighter shade of blue)

Why is that so? Because Chopper is definitely weaker than Luffy, and Franky is definitely weaker than Sanji. The most prominent example currently is Jinbe’s signature colour, which is Ochre; in Japanese it’s “黄土色” (Oudoiro) or “Yellow earth colour”. I presume Jinbe’s signature colour belongs to yellow part, and Ochre is a deeper shade of yellow. And what is it? Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. Why Oda chose Ochre, an uncommon colour to represent Jinbe? Oda should’ve chosen just plain Brown “茶色” (Chairo) but Oda chose Ochre as a sign that Ochre is deeper shade of Yellow, because Jinbe is stronger than Usopp. So all that’s left is purple, green, and orange.


I believe that for green part, it must be lighter shade of green, because Zoro’s colour is green & the one who represents light shade of green must be weaker than Zoro. Coincidentally, the “lighter” shades of colours are the Monster Trio: Luffy, Zoro, Sanji; Red, Green, Blue. I still have no idea whether the one who represents violet will be weaker/stronger than Robin because Robin is currently among the top 5 fighters in SHP, although Robin is more brain than brawl. But for orange part, it’s most definitely the deeper shade of orange which I presume: Yamato.

So the colour part is most likely like this:



So the ones left are purple & green. I suggest Yamato might be deeper shade of orange because her horns are shades of red to orange, and she wears red pants.
Caribou+Carrot or Zeus+Carrot XDXD
 
#28
Caribou+Carrot or Zeus+Carrot XDXD
Zeus: combined with Nami’s clima tact & he’s more comparable to Sunny than to be considered a nakama. Even Karuu doesn’t count as a nakama although Karuu sailed together & have the X sign (poor Karuu)
Carrot: the only thing that bothers me with Carrot is her initial letter name is same with Chopper. Her name contradicts the alphabet theory; unless she changes her name.



Imagine for merchandise reason, that Chopper will be replaced with Carrot. Top image is an example that each Straw Hat represents each alphabet so well (BCFJLNRSUZ)

Brook is replaced by Bartholomeo and it’s really weird. That’s one of the example if having 2 crews with same initial name.
Caribou: contradicts the alphabet theory + too ugly to be a merchandise LOL
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I like your theory with the alphabet but I think it is just coincidence since oda is japanese.
Well, the manga is called “One Piece” for a reason: because Oda knows alphabet for sure. Hence if the reason that it is coincidence just because Oda is Japanese, the manga will be called “Ichi Ippen” (一 一片), just like how Jujutsu Kaisen is XD
:funky:
 
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#38
I honestly don’t want to overanalyze everything over a cover page though. Sounds a bit too far-fetched & the connection is too small almost none IMO
You overanalyze most of fanmade theory but not this? Something that oda draw himself?
:kaidowhat:

The only thing that make it not good as theory is that some of these cats characteristic are not stand out much to tell us who is who
 
#39
You overanalyze most of fanmade theory but not this? Something that oda draw himself?
:kaidowhat:

The only thing that make it not good as theory is that some of these cats characteristic are not stand out much to tell us who is who
It’s not over-analyzing if there is still a connection & logical reason behind the “theory”, and like I said on the 2nd part: the connection is too small almost none.

Well, ironically, you basically explained it on the second part which I quote: “The only thing that make it not good as a theory is that some of these cats characteristic are not stand out much to tell who is who.”

not to mention that over 1016 request cover page so far, we can conclude just by 1 cover page. Therefore, the connection is almost none. I can “over-analyze” it if you want to by the way. Do you want me to start?
 
#40
It’s not over-analyzing if there is still a connection & logical reason behind the “theory”, and like I said on the 2nd part: the connection is too small almost none.

Well, ironically, you basically explained it on the second part which I quote: “The only thing that make it not good as a theory is that some of these cats characteristic are not stand out much to tell who is who.”

not to mention that over 1016 request cover page so far, we can conclude just by 1 cover page. Therefore, the connection is almost none. I can “over-analyze” it if you want to by the way. Do you want me to start?
I say my second part because you said it's far fetched

The connection is not small. The percentage of our answer is true to "which cat is which SHs" is what is small.

Not really. Feel free to post it or not. I have my own guess too tho
 
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