Versus Battle Juubito takes a One Piece Gauntlet

How far does Juubito make it?


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Nothing to do with entering combat, they're simply different processes, like what the fuck does reacting to something have to do with how fast you can run for long distances? Nothing, they're entirely different.

I don't know if you're new to powerscaling, but speed being separated into categories such as travel, combat and reaction has always been a thing, this isn't exclusive to One Piece.
There’s short distance speed, long distance speed, and reaction speed. The first two are correlated to some extent. If someone had a short distance speed of nearly light speed, their long distance speed would be much greater than 200 km/h
 
There’s short distance speed, long distance speed, and reaction speed. The first two are correlated to some extent. If someone had a short distance speed of nearly light speed, their long distance speed would be much greater than 200 km/h
Luffy moves far faster than 200 km/h, he can move so fast that he's literally invisible to superhumans like Blueno even in a much, much, much less powerful version than his current self, was Gazelleman's fodder ass invisible to anyone? No.

The Gazelleman shit is just an antifeat like Goku being injured by guns or Saitama having his face clawed apart by a random cat as I mentioned earlier, these things exists in every manga and they aren't representative of a character's power.
 
Luffy moves far faster than 200 km/h, he can move so fast that he's literally invisible to superhumans like Blueno even in a much, much, much less powerful version than his current self, was Gazelleman's fodder ass invisible to anyone? No.

The Gazelleman shit is just an antifeat like Goku being injured by guns or Saitama having his face clawed apart by a random cat as I mentioned earlier, these things exists in every manga and they aren't representative of a character's power.
If we’re tossing out lowball feats, why not also toss out highball feats? Why should we say OP characters are massively faster than light because PTS Zoro could sidestep Kuma’s “light speed” air pads?

Most of the time, “light speed” is just used to convey that the attack is really fast, not that it’s literally light speed. If Kuma’s attack was literally light speed, then we should also scale Kuma to universe level because it would take infinite energy to accelerate air particles to light speed
 
If we’re tossing out lowball feats, why not also toss out highball feats? Why should we say OP characters are massively faster than light because PTS Zoro could sidestep Kuma’s “light speed” air pads?

Most of the time, “light speed” is just used to convey that the attack is really fast, not that it’s literally light speed. If Kuma’s attack was literally light speed, then we should also scale Kuma to universe level because it would take infinite energy to accelerate air particles to light speed
It's not a lowball feat, it's an antifeat, it's completely contradicted even.

No, when a character says "this attack moves at lightspeed" it means that attack moves at lightspeed, it's not open for interpretation.

You're now trying to limit feats by real world standards in a fictional setting, do that to Naruto and you can say goodbye to damn near every single feat they have as well.
 
It's not a lowball feat, it's an antifeat, it's completely contradicted even.

No, when a character says "this attack moves at lightspeed" it means that attack moves at lightspeed, it's not open for interpretation.

You're now trying to limit feats by real world standards in a fictional setting, do that to Naruto and you can say goodbye to damn near every single feat they have as well.
One of the biggest problems with powerscalers is their borderline autistic insistence with taking every statement literally. How about we actually use context to determine if characters are speaking figuratively or not?

How does it make any sense for low tiers like PTS Zoro to be light speed when Kizaru, the man with the Light Light Fruit, is hyped as being one of the fastest, if not the fastest, characters in the series because his fruit lets him travel at light speed? By your logic, Kizaru should be one of the slowest characters in the series because his fruit would let him only travel as fast as PTS Zoro.
 
One of the biggest problems with powerscalers is their borderline autistic insistence with taking every statement literally. How about we actually use context to determine if characters are speaking figuratively or not?
There is nothing to disprove the various statements in the manga and databooks being literal, if you want to say they're figurative then that's something you need to prove, but you'd frankly have to be a retard to think Kizaru being that fast is just figurative when he's literally made of light and stated repeatedly to be able to move and attack at that speed.
How does it make any sense for low tiers like PTS Zoro to be light speed when Kizaru, the man with the Light Light Fruit, is hyped as being one of the fastest, if not the fastest, characters in the series because his fruit lets him travel at light speed? By your logic, Kizaru should be one of the slowest characters in the series because his fruit would let him only travel as fast as PTS Zoro.
Thriller Bark Zoro isn't a low tier, he's a mid tier, and where did I say he was lightspeed? I said mid/high tiers can react to lightspeed attacks, which they can, but even characters with relativistic speed can do that.
 
There is nothing to disprove the various statements in the manga and databooks being literal, if you want to say they're figurative then that's something you need to prove, but you'd frankly have to be a retard to think Kizaru being that fast is just figurative when he's literally made of light and stated repeatedly to be able to move and attack at that speed.

Thriller Bark Zoro isn't a low tier, he's a mid tier, and where did I say he was lightspeed? I said mid/high tiers can react to lightspeed attacks, which they can, but even characters with relativistic speed can do that.
When characters say stuff like “my attack can destroy anything!” do you take all of those statements literally and assume said characters really do have infinite AP?

Zoro would have to be briefly moving at light speed to sidestep Kuma’s air pads. Even if he can perceive them at light speed, he still needs to be fast enough to move out of the way on time.

Kizaru hard caps the OPverse at light speed at best since he’s the fastest character and can only move at lightspeed. Everyone else is slower than him.
 
When characters say stuff like “my attack can destroy anything!” do you take all of those statements literally and assume said characters really do have infinite AP?

Zoro would have to be briefly moving at light speed to sidestep Kuma’s air pads. Even if he can perceive them at light speed, he still needs to be fast enough to move out of the way on time.

Kizaru hard caps the OPverse at light speed at best since he’s the fastest character and can only move at lightspeed. Everyone else is slower than him.
A character saying their attack moves at lightspeed and a character saying they can destroy anything are not comparable, the latter is far more hyperbolic.

Not how it works, distance is also a factor to reacting to attacks, as I said, you can evade and react to a lightspeed attack without being lightspeed yourself, relativistic speed is enough depending on circumstances.

Kizaru in Egghead showed the ability to accelerate beyond lightspeed, so no, the cap is not lightspeed, and Kizaru being the fastest character is equally baseless, stated nowhere.
 
Dunno why people downplay Madara with Guy's feats. Juubito was easily reacting to Minato and tagging him. 8 gates Guy was a beast and Madara despite having a part of his body blown off simply regenerated. Juubito has the Truth Seeking Orbs, which were described as disintegrating everything on a molecular level similar to Oonoki's Jinton, while having the advantage of taking on any form, only weakness being Senjutsu. That's why Kakashi had to rip a hole into the shield created by Madara with Kamui for Guy to pass through, or otherwise it would have disintegrated him with physical contact, which means its effect goes beyond Ninjutsu.

In the Manga, Juubito was seen instantly putting out a barrier superior to the ones created by 4 Hokage, then instantly firing off 4 large Juubidamas while shielding himself with the Truth Seeking Balls, with the Barrier being strong enough to withstand the explosion.

Juubito would wreck any One Piece character.


This is what a small Juubidama looks like for anyone who has forgotten, being so large you can see the curvature of the earth, towering a hundred times over mountains, and Juubito can instantly utilize the power of multiple larger ones while having a perfect defense (360 degrees truth seeking balls shielding), which simultaneously acts as the perfect offense (disintegrating everything on a molecular level).

How does anyone think a One Piece character stands a chance.
Doesn't seem likely that it's the actual curvature. Probably Kishi just drew it using a fisheye lens.
 
OP characters are being underrated here.
Kaido is a mountain buster something that Juubito ate point blank.
Mountain busting was already within reach for characters like Dressrosa Zoro let alone Kaido:
There’s been many island level feats in One Piece prior to a lot of the newer feats in Wano which even top those said island lvl+ feats, a lot of them are surpassed via scaling any way.
 
OP characters are being underrated here.

Mountain busting was already within reach for characters like Dressrosa Zoro let alone Kaido:
There’s been many island level feats in One Piece prior to a lot of the newer feats in Wano which even top those said island lvl+ feats, a lot of them are surpassed via scaling any way.
Pica is small mountain level at best, and Madara’s Perfect Susano’o casually cut 2 mountains in half from dozens of miles away
 
Pica is small mountain level at best, and Madara’s Perfect Susano’o casually cut 2 mountains in half from dozens of miles away
I mean we’ve had many feats that surpass Zoro’s feat in Dressrosa. I’m not familiar with the recent feats but via scaling Zoro himself has long surpassed that. Stating that Kaido is a mountain buster is waaay off and he’s rather closer to large island lvl or approaching country lvl of AP.
 
I mean we’ve had many feats that surpass Zoro’s feat in Dressrosa. I’m not familiar with the recent feats but via scaling Zoro himself has long surpassed that. Stating that Kaido is a mountain buster is waaay off and he’s rather closer to large island lvl or approaching country lvl of AP.
Lmao what the fuck has Kaido done to be placed at country level AP? Even large island level is a stretch
 
Lmao what the fuck has Kaido done to be placed at country level AP? Even large island level is a stretch
Ehn, the large island can work as wank really so it can be allowed.

His drum dragon form which is seemingly as large as wano or something could make him reach that scaling with some liberty takes.


But even then the Naruto verse still fae outscales that level of power.



Toneri alone, someone who in verse is still self admitted to be weaker than the ten tails has the power to cut him in half and that mfer is rubbish compared to a Juubi Jinchuriki.
 
Lmao what the fuck has Kaido done to be placed at country level AP? Even large island level is a stretch
Whatever dude, don’t really care either way. Point was Kaido is far above mountain lvl as demonstrated time and time again via many feats performed in Marineford and other arcs like Punk Hazard, Dressrosa that put the OP top tiers well within Island lvl. Large Island lvl is not even a stretch when you consider Mihawk being able to casually slash those mountain sized icebergs that towered over MF and WB having the AP to be able to destroy MF. Idk how you gonna deny that in 2024 it’s clear. I’m sure if I look over the Wano feats I’ll find even more impressive stuff but idc about One Piss like that.
 
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