Speculations Kaido being the strongest , is just what people say it is not a fact.

Fujishiro

Just chilling
In what world were they "fodders". This is Kaido's army which including all his top dudes including King and Queen (and whoever else had Jack's place back then).



Oden got one shot without Kaido even using a named move, and he was stronger than Kaido. He was actually Yonko level. Keep crying though.



I never said he has "PK level" ap. You have no idea what you're talking about. In fact I said Luffy will surpass his offence. I said he has PK tier durability, since only Oden left a scar on him. Kaido has the best durability ever shown on OP. That is a fact.
How do you explain then Rogers names attack doing nothing to him but kaidos no named club albeit a sneak one hit him?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
How do you explain then Rogers names attack doing nothing to him but kaidos no named club albeit a sneak one hit him?
Because he blocked rogers attack and still got sent flying.
And kaido hit him flush on the head when his guard was down.
 
I see people claim Kaido title ain't legit cause it has no title box. Meaning Oden was purposefully disinforming audiance, both in the manga & real life, cause he did put Kaido over Akainu in interviews.

Imu & maybe Dragon are probably above Kaido, that' s why he didn't receive title info box. One Piece Population knows nothing about power lvl of those 2, but they know admiral/yonko power lvls though. Kaido > yonko/admirals/Mihawk is set in stone though.
 
I don't think his hybrid form is going to give him as much as a boost that G4 gives luffy. And I don't think we'll see his awakened form either. Maybe he already used it to be honest and we are just not aware about it.
The point isn't about receiving as much as a boost as G4 but receiving a boost, alone. Hybrid form has been consistently portrayed as the strongest by a good margin (Luffy kind of kept it up with Lucci when both in base, but needed G2 to match his hybrid), so we basically can't measure properly Oden's level in comparison to Kaido as long as the latter didn't use his best form.

On the other hand, I'd take his awakened form as granted. He's probably the ultimate Zoan user we will ever see in this manga and he's an emperor, so it makes no sense for Oda to not give him awakening. It is also unlikely that he has already used it because awakened Zoans look like a more bestialized hybrid form. We haven't seen Kaido's hybrid, so it is next to impossible for us to have seen his awakening.
 
The point isn't about receiving as much as a boost as G4 but receiving a boost, alone. Hybrid form has been consistently portrayed as the strongest by a good margin (Luffy kind of kept it up with Lucci when both in base, but needed G2 to match his hybrid), so we basically can't measure properly Oden's level in comparison to Kaido as long as the latter didn't use his best form.

On the other hand, I'd take his awakened form as granted. He's probably the ultimate Zoan user we will ever see in this manga and he's an emperor, so it makes no sense for Oda to not give him awakening. It is also unlikely that he has already used it because awakened Zoans look like a more bestialized hybrid form. We haven't seen Kaido's hybrid, so it is next to impossible for us to have seen his awakening.
His hybrid will be a big boost only if base luffy (G2/3) can keep up with his base form with advanced coa and coo. So then they can both use their trump cards.
 
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