Speculations Kaido may not show awakening

[R A I T E I I I]

It is stated that the battle has only a few minutes left, and we also know that there is emphasis on people not having much energy left - which is something that I find odd because I don't see how they've been pushed this far, especially big mom.

NOBODY has shown awakening from the beast pirates so far if I recall, at least not the calamities! So that makes me think that Kaido will not show awakening either. The potential of this fruit cannot be wasted just like that... that means that someone else will use the fruit. Here's where Blackbeard fits. I always argued that Luffy cannot face the same fruit twice, but it is different if Kaido didn't show all it could do.

If Kaido is not showing awakening soon then he will undoubtedly die and Blackbeard is coming. I think Zoro is done for btw.

Would you be disappointed if Kaido -and maybe Big Mom- don't show awakening? He could possibly show his oni form, an idea brought up by @pepperchampion32

Leave your thoughts.

@Zoro D Goat
@Extravlad
@Celestial D. Dragon
@Monkey D Theories
@Finalbeta
@AdmiralKinyagi

 

[Master OF Haki]

that means that someone else will use the fruit. Here's where Blackbeard fits. I always argued that Luffy cannot face the same fruit twice, but it is different if Kaido didn't show all it could do.

If Kaido is not showing awakening soon then he will undoubtedly die and Blackbeard is coming. I think Zoro is done for btw.

I agree with this part, I've been saying that Blackbeard will steal Kaido's DF for years already

 

[Extravlad]

Zoan awakening is a mess in general, Oda introduced it in Impel Down but didn't really say much about it other than they go enhanced stats.

Kaido might show awakening to force Luffy to unlock his own, but I don't see what an awakened Kaido could bring to the table in term of narrative other than that. It's not gonna change the fight coregraphy like with Doffy/Katakuri, at best he might develop new techniques similar to Boro Breath/Wind slashes but that's it

Maybe they've all been awakened all along and Oda didn't feel the need to develop on it because zoan awakening is just a stat boost?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Considering that the Beast Pirates are the strongest Zoans in the world, it would be extremely bizarre if none of them have awakened fruits.

In fact, that would actually imply that no pirate in the world has an awakened Zoan.

Although Oda may have written a loophole for this back in Impel Down - using awakening makes Zoans go berserk.

 

[The Legend]

But what is the awakening of a zoan? The ones in impel dawn were normal zoans and had no rationing ability, so what could be the awakening of a mythical zoan? To recover it to 100% in an instant?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

We're not even sure what son awakening is, as Oda never explained shit Is It a new form? A simple stats boost? I always assumed it was a new form because ID zoans looked more beastly/feral than other zoan but...

 

[Paperchampion23]

Kaido probably has it. It'll probably be explained as:

- Harder to obtain than Paramecia (but not Logia) and we'll probably see it at or around the same time as Big Mom.

- Impel Down being artificially induced by Vegapunk. Kaido is one of the few in the world that can do it (maybe Blackbeard and Ryokugyuu also can if they have Zoans)

- retconned to a 4th form for Zoan users.

I have a feeling Oda really wanted differentiate Kaido's "level" against his crew. He's a very physical fighter, and while I'm sure his DF has some additional elemental abilities we aren't aware of, he doesn't really "do" much beyond Club hits and Boro breath. I think this is how Oda ups the fight with Kaido, combined with some Ogre related feats I'm sure in the coming chapters

 

[draganax]

according to crocodile zoan awakening is just an increase in durability and recovery speed.
i think awakening is all the times kaido or any zoan user recovered after getting K.O'ed and their eyes goes white.
most of them recover in split second.

 

[Herrera95]

Marco's DF is much better for Teach than Kaido's DF.

Would be terrible if BM and Kaido don't show their awakenings but BM maybe already had.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Zoan awakening is just states boost

 

[Monkey D Theories]

If base Luffy is on par with hybrid kaido, kaido needs another form to match G4, therefore he must have awakening

 

[Paperchampion23]

Marco's DF is much better for Teach than Kaido's DF.

Would be terrible if BM and Kaido don't show their awakenings but BM maybe already had.

I have a feeling they haven't yet. Oda seems very adamant on differentiating Awakeing vs Non-awkaneing applications. Like we see Law/Kid explain themselves right before they use it. We never see this for anyone else outside of Doflamingo/Katakuri. If they have it, they will definitely mention it in the coming chapters.

 

[Herrera95]

If base Luffy is on par with hybrid kaido, kaido needs another form to match G4, therefore he must have awakening

Maybe. If Luffy can use ACoA with ACoC than his base form is his strongest. If Luffy can't than his G4 will be his strongest since he can't use ACoA in G4 anyway.

There is a reason why Luffy is using much more base form than G4 so he is pretty much stronger at base than at G4 right now.

 

[Finalbeta]

Maybe Hybrid cosntituted awakening all along but I hope not cause so many got it, it would feel odd other DFs didn't allow to unlock it as easily.

 

[Garps tekkai]

He will have it and it's an extra form, no retcons whatsoever. Y'all need to dig a little deeper into that matter:
-No human facial features are left, also no signature quirks of the user (like beards and stuff)
-fully animalisitic look, except for the abdominal part
-body composition does not resembe a human anymore, instead it's really just the animal in overgrown size with a humanoid stature standing up straight
-all have black claws/fingers
-> all stuff that's not present within hybrid modes

+ The powerscale is off the charts: Minotaurus, a random ass C-class antagonist, speed blitzed Mr2 (once was base Sanji's near equal) and post Lucci fight Luffy, while he had enough physical strength to overpower either of them. He legit would have rofl diffed Mr2 right there. He did that stuff w/o Rokushiki or anything, so what kinda monster does that guy has to be in base, if Zoan awakening is just "hybrid+abnormal resilience", as he was essentially physically more powerful than even hybrid Lucci.
Reread Ch. 532, it's actually ridiculous, especially if you assume what it's more likely, that he in base is probably fodder.

What Croc called their strongpoint is indeed their strongpoint, just on top of a strongly stat boosted entirely new form. Extra high resilience as their strong point and an entirely new form aren't mutually exclusive (-a red herring, Oda is a sly one)

"100 beasts Kaido", as the WSC, definitely will have it and he needs it, otherwise G4 might actually steamroll him for what it looks like.
And it's definitely something that works on activation. This a shounen manga, Oda won't miss the opportunity to initiate the grand final with a catastrophic twist and a monster transformation does this job pretty well.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Oda save Awakening for the last.

 

[Kiiro]

You dont even know what awakening is.

 

[R A I T E I I I]

If base Luffy is on par with hybrid kaido, kaido needs another form to match G4, therefore he must have awakening

Why does he need to match the new G4 or whatever is coming though? I actually wish to be proven wrong because I want to see the awakening coming from HIM, and also I'm not a fan of the idea of BB getting this fruit. However, only a few minutes left and nobody has shown awakening this whole time? Something seems odd.

 

[stealthblack]

He already did, how You think he got back up from fighting dozens of people on the roof

 

[R A I T E I I I]

But what is the awakening of a zoan? The ones in impel dawn were normal zoans and had no rationing ability, so what could be the awakening of a mythical zoan? To recover it to 100% in an instant?

I don't know. Another point to speculate as to why it cannot happen. Kaido cannot just suddenly get a high degree of recovery a few minutes away from the end of the battle.