Controversial Kaido's drunken, deep-blue form WAS his awakening.

Do you agree?


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#25
Oda doesn't know what he wants

Awakening for zoans got retconned
All to make Nika nonsense ve legit
Before that, we only knew that awakened zoans were just more resilient. We saw awakened zoans at Impel down, they didn't have those cloudy aura on their necks or distinct eyebrows
Impel down awakened zoan were failures who was consumed by the cruits will so they become animals. Oda is consistent you can see the hagoromo even on Enel.
 
#28
On a serious note, I don't think this form is significant enough to be considered an "Awakening" but I definitely prefer it to his default Hybrid one.

One could consider it similar to the purely animalistic awakenings of the Impel Down jailers, but you have to remember:

1- Their DFs are a different type (regular zoan vs mythical zoan)

2- Kaido still retains more consciousness and mental sanity unlike the Jailers who go full beast/animal mode

3- If its really his awakening, then there would be no need for two separate hybrid forms with different designs, and the latter one should be his default hybrid at all times since its stronger and faster.



 
#29
On a serious note, I don't think this form is significant enough to be considered an "Awakening" but I definitely prefer it to his default Hybrid one.

One could consider it similar to the purely animalistic awakenings of the Impel Down jailers, but you have to remember:

1- Their DFs are a different type (regular zoan vs mythical zoan)

2- Kaido still retains more consciousness and mental sanity unlike the Jailers who go full beast/animal mode

3- If its really his awakening, then there would be no need for two separate hybrid forms with different designs, and the latter one should be his default hybrid at all times since its stronger and faster.



Awakening for lucci is just his hybrid form but thinner with that cloudy flame/smoke and sharper teeth
 
#31
On a serious note, I don't think this form is significant enough to be considered an "Awakening" but I definitely prefer it to his default Hybrid one.

One could consider it similar to the purely animalistic awakenings of the Impel Down jailers, but you have to remember:

1- Their DFs are a different type (regular zoan vs mythical zoan)

2- Kaido still retains more consciousness and mental sanity unlike the Jailers who go full beast/animal mode

3- If its really his awakening, then there would be no need for two separate hybrid forms with different designs, and the latter one should be his default hybrid at all times since its stronger and faster.



Also he appears to be much stronger when using V2 hybrid - Tanking over kong gun when V1 hybrid was getting hurt by G2-G3 attacks ; using attacks like roaring TB which almost K.O.ed G4 luffy compared to other attacks done by V1 Kaido which luffy was tanking much easily - gundari and thunder ragnarok.
 
#32
Actually his drunken modes to some extent can be compared to chopper's different points. Oda could have delved more into different points with Kaido.
He did, kind of. A lot of the high ranking beast pirates had point transformations or different modes. Jack had a centaur hybrid. King did a Wing Point and was in normal mode with only zoan wings. Black Maria's form was drug induced
 
#39
I interpreted it as Kaido, while being drunk, being able to tap into what resembles awakening. I guess his mind didn't really catch up to his DF because his brute, violent and merciless nature is in contrast to the benevolent nature of the azure dragon. While the alcohol helped Kaido to alter the state of his mind. Which of course isn't the same as true awakening in all forms.
 
#40
I interpreted it as Kaido, while being drunk, being able to tap into what resembles awakening. I guess his mind didn't really catch up to his DF because his brute, violent and merciless nature is in contrast to the benevolent nature of the azure dragon. While the alcohol helped Kaido to alter the state of his mind. Which of course isn't the same as true awakening in all forms.
Even without drunken mode , he can enter it imo. When he used death destroyer , he was using V2 hybrid.
 
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