Current Events Kaidou and his 30000 men lost a war to a raid force of 5400

[Desert Waifu]

Even after massive plot armour BP still are not down lmfao

Like that fodder guy said, they're still outnumbered. And they still have Apoo, Inbi, and theoretically the Big Mom pirates. But they won't show up because they're just incompetent.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Does nobody remember 300?
Sure they lost but they utterly decimated a much larger force.

Not at all the same. The Greek had the field advantage since they were defending the pass of Thermopylae (quite different from Onigashima), as you said they lost and, more importantly, they weren't 300; that only was the number of Spartans, but the whole Greek force amounted from 5.000 to 11.000 depending on the source (most likely around 7.000 men).

Anyways, real examples of battles where a significantly smaller force ended up winning have happened. But it's pointless to discuss it because this is a fictional conflict; if anything, I guess Oda took inspiration from the Battle of Okehazama (especially because Oda Nobunaga, a likely inspiration behind Oden, was involved there), where around 2.500 samurai defeated the 25.000 army of a warlord from that time by attacking his base and taking him by surprise during a celebration (much like the Onigashima raid).

So Kaidou's 30.000 men losing to a raid force of 5.400 isn't that fartetched considering what Nobunaga achieved. Being outnumbered isn't a defeat guarantee.

 

[Ravagerblade]

That film is a joke

It was only a reference not a accurate type thing.
Lol why think that? It never claimed itself for historical accuracy.

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Not at all the same. The Greek had the field advantage since they were defending the pass of Thermopylae (quite different from Onigashima), as you said they lost and, more importantly, they weren't 300; that only was the number of Spartans, but the whole Greek force amounted from 5.000 to 11.000 depending on the source (most likely around 7.000 men).

Anyways, real examples of battles where a significantly smaller force ended up winning have happened. But it's pointless to discuss it because this is a fictional conflict; if anything, I guess Oda took inspiration from the Battle of Okehazama (especially because Oda Nobunaga, a likely inspiration behind Oden, was involved there), where around 2.500 samurai defeated the 25.000 army of a warlord from that time by attacking his base and taking him by surprise during a celebration (much like the Onigashima raid).

So Kaidou's 30.000 men losing to a raid force of 5.400 isn't that fartetched considering what Nobunaga achieved. Being outnumbered isn't a defeat guarantee.

 

[Shiroyru]

Mind you that Kaidou also had the help of ANOTHER YONKO

"A man's worth can only be judged in war"

Kaidou must have a terrible opinion of himself

And the Marines would have gone either way, according to Sengoku, against a force of 5000 men of WB was healthy and Marines didn’t use cheap tricks

 

[Finalbeta]

I wonder how many of those men Shanks' haki could have knocked out