Future Events Kid becomes the hero of Elbaf by becoming Thor's successor

#1
What comes to your mind, when you think about Thor? Did you just imagine a tall blonde superhero throwing around a big hammer aswell?
I cannot blame you

In the Marvel comics they could get away with Thor throwing around that hammer like that, thanks to concepts like magic or divine powers – or whatever it is -, but in one piece that kinda stuff would need a solid explanation, if it ever were to appear in the story.

Even if characters would be able to wield such a hammer, none of those would throw it around and expect it to come back. That is, unless you are able to repel and attract that hammer however you like. And here's where the jiki jiki no mi comes in.

I think a giant named Thor existed in the op verse and that Thor character was the former user of the jiki jiki no mi – Kid's magnetic ability – and he happens to have left his hammer Mjolnir behind in Elbaf. But he did not just leave it behind, like you would leave any normal hammer behind. I think he sealed it to a gigantic iron socket with the awakening ability „assign“ of the jiki jiki no mi.

I think the hammer is now there waiting for someone, that is not only the new owner of the jiki jiki no mi, but also someone, that ended up becoming strong enough to awaken the fruit, realizing its full potential, so that Thor's original assign could get removed and he's getting to have a successor: the new wielder of Mjolnir.

I think Oda will capture the King Arthur/Excalibur- theme with all of that, where no one around was ever able to pick up Mjolnir, up until fate decided it's high time for Kid to shine and perform the impossible.

Kid's plot on Elbaf
I do not want to derail this thread by making up a full-fledged fanfic story about Kid, I will try to focus on parts, that I imagine could play out in a specific way, thanks to certain hints from the story and that are just likely to be a thing, thanks to pop culture influence.

I think in general it's likely that Kid might have a greater role in Elbaf. Afterall he's one of the two, who are responsible for defeating Big Mom. It's likely she's still kept in memory by most of the giants around, thanks to her gruesome past actions

And I think it's actually likely that Loki will be a shady guy. He was not only willing to form an alliance with BM, who is canonly hated by the giants, solely based on personal desire, he was also the only guy, who was ever rebuffed by Lola. If the girl, that tries to marry every man she comes across, rebuffs only one, something does not seem right.

It's not much to go by, but it's atleast something, that seems to lead into a certain direction.
And thanks to the fact that we strangely enough only ever heard from Loki and not once from a Thor, I can freely speculate that Thor might not be alive anymore.

Be it how it might be, I think that's where Kid and the Thor successor theme kicks in. I imagine Kid somehow finding his way to Thor's grave or monument, which btw might resemble that

… where Mjolnir is sealed and he will do the unthinkable: he's going to pick up Mjolnir by releasing it from the socket, leaving the giants flabbergasted.

And this will get the stone rolling. cause now he's not only the man, who defeated the great evil Big Mom. No. Now he's also the man, who succeeds the great warrior Thor. Thor, that was perhaps hailed to be the strongest and bravest warrior of Elbaf during his lifetime and who was well respected by all of the giants.

Oda now only has to throw in some antagonist - perhaps Loki -, that needs to be defeated and Kid can become the new hero of Elbaf, by smashing in the faces of whoever he has to face using his newfound power and perhaps by CoC blasting out an army of fodder- finally.


Technicalities
1 Mjolnir's weight and the ability to wield it
Here we already have the reason why I think it's close to impossible for Ussop to be the one, to do it: it's going to be super heavy, cause it was presumably wielded by a giant, and for everyone else bar Kid this is just going to be too heavy imo. What would be the point of someone else wielding it and being hardly able to do so and then practically do nothing sort of spectacular with it?

I think that 10ton hammer gag from Ussop might have just been foreshadowing in general.
Luckily for Kid the jiki jiki no mi neutralizes any potential strength/weight limitation, when it's about a metallic object. He could even repel BM up into the air and he can assemble tons worth of metal scrap and wield them around freely
Means that thing could be unbearable heavy, but Kid could still wield it like it weighs nothing, thanks to his fruit.
2 A permanent assign ability
It's likely that certain DF effects are permanent and not just Logias' presumed climate changing ability.
Remember the invisible „staircase“ Apo ran over? Or how everything got longer on Long Ring Long land? Is that just magic or perhaps the doings of the awakened invisibiltiy fruit and the awakened Nika fruit?
Along those lines I think there might be an assign ability, that has a permanent effect. And with that ability Thor sealed Mjolnir to the socket.
Potential abilities
Let's just say that it would do better in bringing back his fruit's basic abilities than anything else ever could.

If you do not have enough already, go on and enjory my thoughts on that aspect of the speculation aswell
His repel ability would enable him to throw that hammer around at high speeds, creating devastating attacks with a lot of potential range. It's also Thor's signature move
But it might also give him flight, similar to Marvel's Thor, if he could move/repel it while grabbing onto a fabric loop that might be attached to Mjolnir's handle.
This in turn would make it an easy task for him to assign his opponents
.. and also make him get out of Punk Clash w/o any problem
Add something like attacks from different positions.
I'm thinking about him flying above his opponents and then performing a downwards Mjolnir throw or a Mjolnir speedblitz. In theory resembling those:
And as easy as that you already have a lot of interesting things Oda could pull out of it. And it certainly would make Kid completely busted.
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If you have read all of this, I appreciate you a lot. I had this and some other ideas in my head for some weeks now and because of the recent break I thought, why not just bump out a series of threads.

If you don't want to get tagged anymore or if you want to get tagged for future threads, just tell me. And if anyone of you know some diehard Kid fans, feel free to tag them!
 
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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#3
Good theory, it makes a ton of sense lol.
Oda also played this "Legendary weapon of a legendary Hero" trope in Wano too, with Enma/Oden (and also Shusui/Ryuma to an extent).
And it does make sense that a character called Thor & Odin will exist in Elbaf, afterall Loki exists.
But sadly, my expectations with regards to Kidd is down in the dumps lol. He's just been a major disappointment for me.

Tbf though Usopp makes more sense, since Elbaf is very likely his "arc" to shine.
Maybe to lift Mjolnir, one would have to prove themselves worthy or perhaps maybe even "brave" enough to do so - after which case it might as light as a feather.

Because it certainly ties in with Usopp's story arc imo, he is in much need of a powerup to stay relevant and what's better than Thor's famous battle hammer in the Viking-theme'd land of Elbaf?

The "jiki-jiki no mi" idea sounds really cool, it 100% makes sense for it's awakened ability to function like that at the hands of the right user, just like how Akainu/Aokiji can change the weather permanently.

I like the theory but i just doubt whether Oda will use this plotline for Kidd rather than for Usopp, lol.
 

Veku

Flamboyant
#4
What comes to your mind, when you think about Thor? Did you just imagine a tall blonde superhero throwing around a big hammer aswell?
I cannot blame you

In the Marvel comics they could get away with Thor throwing around that hammer like that, thanks to concepts like magic or divine powers – or whatever it is -, but in one piece that kinda stuff would need a solid explanation, if it ever were to appear in the story.

Even if characters would be able to wield such a hammer, none of those would throw it around and expect it to come back. That is, unless you are able to repel and attract that hammer however you like. And here's where the jiki jiki no mi comes in.

I think a giant named Thor existed in the op verse and that Thor character was the former user of the jiki jiki no mi – Kid's magnetic ability – and he happens to have left his hammer Mjolnir behind in Elbaf. But he did not just leave it behind, like you would leave any normal hammer behind. I think he sealed it to a gigantic iron socket with the awakening ability „assign“ of the jiki jiki no mi.

I think the hammer is now there waiting for someone, that is not only the new owner of the jiki jiki no mi, but also someone, that ended up becoming strong enough to awaken the fruit, realizing its full potential, so that Thor's original assign could get removed and he's getting to have a successor: the new wielder of Mjolnir.

I think Oda will capture the King Arthur/Excalibur- theme with all of that, where no one around was ever able to pick up Mjolnir, up until fate decided it's high time for Kid to shine and perform the impossible.

Kid's plot on Elbaf
I do not want to derail this thread by making up a full-fledged fanfic story about Kid, I will try to focus on parts, that I imagine could play out in a specific way, thanks to certain hints from the story and that are just likely to be a thing, thanks to pop culture influence.

I think in general it's likely that Kid might have a greater role in Elbaf. Afterall he's one of the two, who are responsible for defeating Big Mom. It's likely she's still kept in memory by most of the giants around, thanks to her gruesome past actions

And I think it's actually likely that Loki will be a shady guy. He was not only willing to form an alliance with BM, who is canonly hated by the giants, solely based on personal desire, he was also the only guy, who was ever rebuffed by Lola. If the girl, that tries to marry every man she comes across, rebuffs only one, something does not seem right.

It's not much to go by, but it's atleast something, that seems to lead into a certain direction.
And thanks to the fact that we strangely enough only ever heard from Loki and not once from a Thor, I can freely speculate that Thor might not be alive anymore.

Be it how it might be, I think that's where Kid and the Thor successor theme kicks in. I imagine Kid somehow finding his way to Thor's grave or monument, which btw might resemble that

… where Mjolnir is sealed and he will do the unthinkable: he's going to pick up Mjolnir by releasing it from the socket, leaving the giants flabbergasted.

And this will get the stone rolling. cause now he's not only the man, who defeated the great evil Big Mom. No. Now he's also the man, who succeeds the great warrior Thor. Thor, that was perhaps hailed to be the strongest and bravest warrior of Elbaf during his lifetime and who was well respected by all of the giants.

Oda now only has to throw in some antagonist - perhaps Loki -, that needs to be defeated and Kid can become the new hero of Elbaf, by smashing in the faces of whoever he has to face using his newfound power and perhaps by CoC blasting out an army of fodder- finally.


Technicalities
1 Mjolnir's weight and the ability to wield it
Here we already have the reason why I think it's close to impossible for Ussop to be the one, to do it: it's going to be super heavy, cause it was presumably wielded by a giant, and for everyone else bar Kid this is just going to be too heavy imo. What would be the point of someone else wielding it and being hardly able to do so and then practically do nothing sort of spectacular with it?

I think that 10ton hammer gag from Ussop might have just been foreshadowing in general.
Luckily for Kid the jiki jiki no mi neutralizes any potential strength/weight limitation, when it's about a metallic object. He could even repel BM up into the air and he can assemble tons worth of metal scrap and wield them around freely
Means that thing could be unbearable heavy, but Kid could still wield it like it weighs nothing, thanks to his fruit.
2 A permanent assign ability
It's likely that certain DF effects are permanent and not just Logias' presumed climate changing ability.
Remember the invisible „staircase“ Apo ran over? Or how everything got longer on Long Ring Long land? Is that just magic or perhaps the doings of the awakened invisibiltiy fruit and the awakened Nika fruit?
Along those lines I think there might be an assign ability, that has a permanent effect. And with that ability Thor sealed Mjolnir to the socket.
Potential abilities
Let's just say that it would do better in bringing back his fruit's basic abilities than anything else ever could.

If you do not have enough already, go on and enjory my thoughts on that aspect of the speculation aswell
His repel ability would enable him to throw that hammer around at high speeds, creating devastating attacks with a lot of potential range. It's also Thor's signature move
But it might also give him flight, similar to Marvel's Thor, if he could move/repel it while grabbing onto a fabric loop that might be attached to Mjolnir's handle.
This in turn would make it an easy task for him to assign his opponents
.. and also make him get out of Punk Clash w/o any problem
Add something like attacks from different positions.
I'm thinking about him flying above his opponents and then performing a downwards Mjolnir throw or a Mjolnir speedblitz. In theory resembling those:
And as easy as that you already have a lot of interesting things Oda could pull out of it. And it certainly would make Kid completely busted.
_______________________________________________________

If you have read all of this, I appreciate you a lot. I had this and some other ideas in my head for some weeks now and because of the recent break I thought, why not just bump out a series of threads.

If you don't want to get tagged anymore or if you want to get tagged for future threads, just tell me. And if anyone of you know some diehard Kid fans, feel free to tag them!
Reads like legit spoilers ngl haha
I have no idea what else at this point could Oda do with Kid, his journey has to be tied to Elbaph as you explained above.

It's likely that certain DF effects are permanent and not just Logias' presumed climate changing ability.
Remember the invisible „staircase“ Apo ran over? Or how everything got longer on Long Ring Long land? Is that just magic or perhaps the doings of the awakened invisibiltiy fruit and the awakened Nika fruit
How about Whole Cake Island?
Tons of stuff is made out of food and Streusen is capable of turning things into food, also albeit infused with parts of Big Mom's soul, we had Cracker's bisquits patrolling the streets....I mean no idea if these things would vanish after the Devil Fruit user has died, but at least they seem to be permanent as long as the user is alive.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#5
Tons of stuff is made out of food and Streusen is capable of turning things into food, also albeit infused with parts of Big Mom's soul, we had Cracker's bisquits patrolling the streets....I mean no idea if these things would vanish after the Devil Fruit user has died, but at least they seem to be permanent as long as the user is alive.
Zeus is still alive, no? So i guess it's possible on paper though idk how consistent Oda will be with it.
 
#11
I feel like it will be Kid, Law, and Bege who will together form some sort of Rocks-like super crew with the giants. All 3 had their flagship destroyed by the yonko, and all 3 of have a big chance of appearing in elbaf.

> Kid is already at Elbaf
> Winner island is close to elbaf, meaning Bepo will probably end up there
> Capone will go there because of Lola, who has ties to Loki
Bonney could be coming to Elbaph too and she has a South Blue connection with Kidd and Killer
 
G

Gorosei Informer

#13

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#14
Solid theory but you have to remember 3 things:
1 - Enel, if there is a god of Thunder like Thor, it has to be Enel. Nobody will parallel Thor more than him and he can modify his weapons.
2 - It's Kidd, one of the shittiest if not the shittiest fighter in the verse. A powerful weapon wont make him any stronger.
3 - It's Oda, his parallels go nowhere. Remember Momotaro parallels on Ogre island? Went nowhere. Remember Law's beef with Doffy? ...
 
#15
I remember seeing an SBS post that said something why...

Oda, will you draw all the members of the Kidd pirates? So, he drew them, but only the main people on the crew. They all looked pretty forgettable. Then, he mentioned something naming them all and he was like, "I'll write the names, but you don't need to remember them."

In my head, I was like... Wow... Is he trying to say they are going to be people that we never really need to think about? Are they gonna get destroyed by another pirate crew eventually?

Then, Shanks one shotted them...
 
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