Future Events Kid becomes the hero of Elbaf by becoming Thor's successor
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Good theory but it seems that Oda sees Kidd as a failed Luffy rather than his own character with his own thematic.
So if someone have to « lift » Thor’s hammer it will most likely be Luffy as another proof that he is Joyboy second coming.
Now I hope that you are right and that the story can give some spotlight to another fan favorite character.
So if someone have to « lift » Thor’s hammer it will most likely be Luffy as another proof that he is Joyboy second coming.
Now I hope that you are right and that the story can give some spotlight to another fan favorite character.
First of all: thanks, for reading it!
Bold: I feel you. But I really think we are still in the subverted expectation state with him.
Thing is, Ussopun is actually one of my favorite characters in the series, so it's not like I don't want him to shine and I'm also waiting for whatever Oda has in store for him in Elbaf.
But I just think that the hammer gag would waste all of the potential, that a Mjolnir hammer would have in the hands of Kid. And, which is also my qualms with Enel being the next Thor thanks to thunder god parallel, Ussop will never be a close quarter combatant, even if he has that gag going for him. He's still a sniper first and foremost and it's likely we will get much more focus on that in combination with his CoO he unlocked in DR.
I'm just not seeing him running around with a big ass hammer on his back, even though I actually like the gag evolution theme about this a lot aswell.
And what's more is, that like I said under "Technicalities" and within the Intro text: Oda would actually need to explain how Ussop would be physically able to wield that thing, cause in OP he cannot get away with magic or with Ussop having a pure heart I think. Which imo always made it impossible for me to really imagine this headcanon coming true.
And then again he would only get it, so that on rare occasions he would have it for bumping in the head of an opponent. It would give him one occasional attack, as it wouldn't change his primary sniping fighting style. Whereas Kid's whole game would be changed.
I think everything speaks much more Kid getting that hammer, if it exists, rather than Ussop. With that thread in mind it would really feel completely wasted on him.
(Plus I just love the assign- seal idea motivated by the Excalibur theme. I would love it, if DF abilities would fit their way into the world building and some lore like that)
haha thanks, bro.
And yeah same here. Either he completely takes him out of the game, will crushed and all, giving him the cover story treatment or Oda just subverted expectations, and while Kid is out for the PK race, he's still in to become a powerful top tier ally for the final war against the WG. The WG side is stacked, while The SHs in combination with the Revos can muster like 5 top tiers, if Sanji and Sabo even become solid ones at that.
Oda will have a difficult time measuring them up to the WG force: Imu + (4) remaining Gorosei, atleast 9 god knights + Garling, two "evil" admirals in GB and Akainu, some Seraphims. They are fucking stacked.
Yeah right I forgot about that. Hmm but like you just said, when joking around with Conquistador: she's not confirmed confirmed dead. Otherwise I'd have edited my post and added that bit.
lmao I'm pulling out Long Ring Long land and some random invisibe stairs, but I'm missing fucking Whole Cake island. Den Wald vor lauter Bäumen und so, ne haha
lmao that genuinely made laugh. You're welcome, bro! :D
Bro, thing is I thought about this aswell. Kid would need to have someone, who he can practice on and generate some hype over. So if all that comes true, I wish for a very powerful giant to be there and not some magma wasted Big Mom 3.0. But with Zeus still living and such, you never know...
Thanks, bro, appreciate it!
lmao thanks, I really, really appreciate it!
When I had the idea I instantly fell in love with that assign-seal/excalibur theme, cause it fits so much with the jiki jiki no mi's ability. And then, when I imagined where it could be sealed, I remembered that Kyros monument and from then on it was over. All that combined with the potential lore behind it, could be so freakin amazing.
And it fits Kid's abilities so much. He could replicate everything major, that Thor actually can do with his fruit.
1. At first I had another Intro text, where I explained, that pop culture Thor is actually very much more linked to just being the hammer throwing superhero, than the actual mythical god of thunder. But you nonetheless have a point.
I just think, that if such a hammer exists on Elbaf, it wouldn't fit Enel's character and his fighting style - similar issue with Ussop - at all. So while he has that Thunder god paralel going on for him, Kid in contrary definitely has that Mjolnir thing in the bag.
So if the hammer's there, I don't see anyone else bar Kid getting it, thanks to multiple reasons I listed in the opening post and in some of the quotes above.
2. Oda might have just subverted expectations. He's a brawler through and through and a hothead at that, that's why a Magneto kinda fighting style never would have fit him in the first place. Instead of shooting projectiles and stuff around, he goes for slams, tackles and oversized punches.
With that he finally gets something, that fits him very well and puts his game onto a completely new level. Then he has that established fighting style, that he was in need of. And he will finally start to use his basic DF abilties - repel and attract - for what they are good for.
With that Oda could atone for all those "cannot get out of his own Punk clash" and "what's next, a hippo?" jokes/situations I'd say.
3. Parallels are one thing. But do you honestly doubt that such a Mjolnir like hammer exists with all the Nordic mythology lore that's put into Elbaf? I really much doubt, that a Mjolnir does not exist. Oda wouldn't miss that chance.
So if it exists, it's just very likely that Kid can get it. Kid does not even need to rely on any parallel with some Thor guy, in fact he even has none, it's just that his ability and the fact that he's right now likely washed ashore on Elbaf, what in sum imo makes him the most fitting candidate for such getting such a hammer by faaaar.
Yeah, but I'd argue that even though they are irrelevant, they were already part of the protagonist side during Wano, a 100+chapter long arc aswell. And that fact, still did not stop Kid from being very relevant there.
Their irrelevance is not an exlcusion criterion is all I'm saying.
But what if we are right not still in the "subverted expectation"- phase? You act like the story already ended.
Law and Kid are practically taken out of the PK race, but that does not mean, that they will only see them again in cover stories. In fact I think they can very likley still end up becoming one of the few solid top tier allies Luffy can muster for the final war against the World Government.
LMAO shieeet sorry, bro
I said this in quote above this on aswell: I think you are trying to create false exclusion criteria.
Him not being the Joyboy 2.0 and the MC of the story, also did not stop him from tag team defeating Big Mom. You act like it's either all or nothing, when that's not the case.
He's not going to become Pirate King, but that does not mean Oda has nothing else in store for him.
Okay. What's your reasons for assuming so?
Shanks for example just left Elbaf. And how is he coming to Elbaf as an invader, when he's likely getting washed ashore completely busted? You make it seem like Shanks has his headquarter there and Kid will recollect him somewhere and then will start a full-fledged invasion, when imo nothing of that sorts points into that direction.
And what beef does he have with Kuzan out of all people?
Bold: I feel you. But I really think we are still in the subverted expectation state with him.
Thing is, Ussopun is actually one of my favorite characters in the series, so it's not like I don't want him to shine and I'm also waiting for whatever Oda has in store for him in Elbaf.
But I just think that the hammer gag would waste all of the potential, that a Mjolnir hammer would have in the hands of Kid. And, which is also my qualms with Enel being the next Thor thanks to thunder god parallel, Ussop will never be a close quarter combatant, even if he has that gag going for him. He's still a sniper first and foremost and it's likely we will get much more focus on that in combination with his CoO he unlocked in DR.
I'm just not seeing him running around with a big ass hammer on his back, even though I actually like the gag evolution theme about this a lot aswell.
And what's more is, that like I said under "Technicalities" and within the Intro text: Oda would actually need to explain how Ussop would be physically able to wield that thing, cause in OP he cannot get away with magic or with Ussop having a pure heart I think. Which imo always made it impossible for me to really imagine this headcanon coming true.
And then again he would only get it, so that on rare occasions he would have it for bumping in the head of an opponent. It would give him one occasional attack, as it wouldn't change his primary sniping fighting style. Whereas Kid's whole game would be changed.
I think everything speaks much more Kid getting that hammer, if it exists, rather than Ussop. With that thread in mind it would really feel completely wasted on him.
(Plus I just love the assign- seal idea motivated by the Excalibur theme. I would love it, if DF abilities would fit their way into the world building and some lore like that)
haha thanks, bro.
And yeah same here. Either he completely takes him out of the game, will crushed and all, giving him the cover story treatment or Oda just subverted expectations, and while Kid is out for the PK race, he's still in to become a powerful top tier ally for the final war against the WG. The WG side is stacked, while The SHs in combination with the Revos can muster like 5 top tiers, if Sanji and Sabo even become solid ones at that.
Oda will have a difficult time measuring them up to the WG force: Imu + (4) remaining Gorosei, atleast 9 god knights + Garling, two "evil" admirals in GB and Akainu, some Seraphims. They are fucking stacked.
Yeah right I forgot about that. Hmm but like you just said, when joking around with Conquistador: she's not confirmed confirmed dead. Otherwise I'd have edited my post and added that bit.
lmao I'm pulling out Long Ring Long land and some random invisibe stairs, but I'm missing fucking Whole Cake island. Den Wald vor lauter Bäumen und so, ne haha
Posts like these is why I have not lost hope in Kidd. Thank you 
Chances are higher that means Big Mom is still alive- or he's going to bring her back deus ex machina style by using Zeus soul 
An actual good thread in a while. Kudos.
lmao thanks, I really, really appreciate it!
When I had the idea I instantly fell in love with that assign-seal/excalibur theme, cause it fits so much with the jiki jiki no mi's ability. And then, when I imagined where it could be sealed, I remembered that Kyros monument and from then on it was over. All that combined with the potential lore behind it, could be so freakin amazing.
And it fits Kid's abilities so much. He could replicate everything major, that Thor actually can do with his fruit.
1. At first I had another Intro text, where I explained, that pop culture Thor is actually very much more linked to just being the hammer throwing superhero, than the actual mythical god of thunder. But you nonetheless have a point.
I just think, that if such a hammer exists on Elbaf, it wouldn't fit Enel's character and his fighting style - similar issue with Ussop - at all. So while he has that Thunder god paralel going on for him, Kid in contrary definitely has that Mjolnir thing in the bag.
So if the hammer's there, I don't see anyone else bar Kid getting it, thanks to multiple reasons I listed in the opening post and in some of the quotes above.
2. Oda might have just subverted expectations. He's a brawler through and through and a hothead at that, that's why a Magneto kinda fighting style never would have fit him in the first place. Instead of shooting projectiles and stuff around, he goes for slams, tackles and oversized punches.
With that he finally gets something, that fits him very well and puts his game onto a completely new level. Then he has that established fighting style, that he was in need of. And he will finally start to use his basic DF abilties - repel and attract - for what they are good for.
With that Oda could atone for all those "cannot get out of his own Punk clash" and "what's next, a hippo?" jokes/situations I'd say.
3. Parallels are one thing. But do you honestly doubt that such a Mjolnir like hammer exists with all the Nordic mythology lore that's put into Elbaf? I really much doubt, that a Mjolnir does not exist. Oda wouldn't miss that chance.
So if it exists, it's just very likely that Kid can get it. Kid does not even need to rely on any parallel with some Thor guy, in fact he even has none, it's just that his ability and the fact that he's right now likely washed ashore on Elbaf, what in sum imo makes him the most fitting candidate for such getting such a hammer by faaaar.
Yeah, but I'd argue that even though they are irrelevant, they were already part of the protagonist side during Wano, a 100+chapter long arc aswell. And that fact, still did not stop Kid from being very relevant there.
Their irrelevance is not an exlcusion criterion is all I'm saying.
But what if we are right not still in the "subverted expectation"- phase? You act like the story already ended.
Law and Kid are practically taken out of the PK race, but that does not mean, that they will only see them again in cover stories. In fact I think they can very likley still end up becoming one of the few solid top tier allies Luffy can muster for the final war against the World Government.
I, who have been waiting 9 years for Shanks to be introduced as Thor, after reading the title:
I said this in quote above this on aswell: I think you are trying to create false exclusion criteria.
Him not being the Joyboy 2.0 and the MC of the story, also did not stop him from tag team defeating Big Mom. You act like it's either all or nothing, when that's not the case.
He's not going to become Pirate King, but that does not mean Oda has nothing else in store for him.
Okay. What's your reasons for assuming so?
Shanks for example just left Elbaf. And how is he coming to Elbaf as an invader, when he's likely getting washed ashore completely busted? You make it seem like Shanks has his headquarter there and Kid will recollect him somewhere and then will start a full-fledged invasion, when imo nothing of that sorts points into that direction.
And what beef does he have with Kuzan out of all people?
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I never said so. Him becoming a hero, does not mean, that he's becoming the King of Elbaf. Where did you get this from??
I don't know why you are so over pesismistic about it? Oda could have just subverted expectations? Do you really think Kid and Law are completely out of the story? I highly doubt you are actually believing that. Especially when Kid very likely is currently washed ashore on Elbaf. You can like it or not, but either way he's likely going to have a plotline there anyway.
And it stands to no debate, that the giants respect strength and bravery above all. If a top tier gets birthed right there in front of their eyes by wielding the weapon of a potentially legendary hero of their hometown, all perhaps even accompanied by a solid CoC feat, an ability he still has btw, while that same man also is responsible for defeating BM, who's basically the giants' archenemy, he would easily be able to gain their respect. You act like it's impossible to happen, when it's clearly not. Might even be that some of the giants already have a decent amount of respect for him, alone thanks to the fact, that he was partlyy responsible for defeating BM.
And it's not like Kid couldn't become a hero involuntarily: Perhaps there is some heavy corruption going on and he just happens to get involved with it. So while he would have solved the problem, he might have done so out of personal interest, instead of some heroic motivation. End result would still be the same.
Afterall there are plenty of ways Oda can go with that.
I don't know why you are so over pesismistic about it? Oda could have just subverted expectations? Do you really think Kid and Law are completely out of the story? I highly doubt you are actually believing that. Especially when Kid very likely is currently washed ashore on Elbaf. You can like it or not, but either way he's likely going to have a plotline there anyway.
And it stands to no debate, that the giants respect strength and bravery above all. If a top tier gets birthed right there in front of their eyes by wielding the weapon of a potentially legendary hero of their hometown, all perhaps even accompanied by a solid CoC feat, an ability he still has btw, while that same man also is responsible for defeating BM, who's basically the giants' archenemy, he would easily be able to gain their respect. You act like it's impossible to happen, when it's clearly not. Might even be that some of the giants already have a decent amount of respect for him, alone thanks to the fact, that he was partlyy responsible for defeating BM.
And it's not like Kid couldn't become a hero involuntarily: Perhaps there is some heavy corruption going on and he just happens to get involved with it. So while he would have solved the problem, he might have done so out of personal interest, instead of some heroic motivation. End result would still be the same.
Afterall there are plenty of ways Oda can go with that.
Nice theory and I do expect kidd to play some role in Elbaf but let's be real ..
No side character is playing such significant role other than Luffy.
Remember wano and Ryuma? Zoro had connections with him...sub plot was laid for him and oda at the end inserted Luffy.
If oda has planned such role then you will see Kidd fail and Luffy somehow succeeding at this.... that's one piece for ya
No side character is playing such significant role other than Luffy.
Remember wano and Ryuma? Zoro had connections with him...sub plot was laid for him and oda at the end inserted Luffy.
If oda has planned such role then you will see Kidd fail and Luffy somehow succeeding at this.... that's one piece for ya
Because I have read this manga and know that neither Kidd nor Law nor any Supernova will ever be more than other allies and cheerleaders for Luffy, and that Luffy and his crew will always get the divine treatment while Law and Kidd and theirs will only get the scraps in comparison.
I have lost all delusion of the Supernovas being rivals or even anywhere close to equals to Luffy a very long time ago.
I have lost all delusion of the Supernovas being rivals or even anywhere close to equals to Luffy a very long time ago.
What comes to your mind, when you think about Thor? Did you just imagine a tall blonde superhero throwing around a big hammer aswell?
I cannot blame you
In the Marvel comics they could get away with Thor throwing around that hammer like that, thanks to concepts like magic or divine powers – or whatever it is -, but in one piece that kinda stuff would need a solid explanation, if it ever were to appear in the story.
Even if characters would be able to wield such a hammer, none of those would throw it around and expect it to come back. That is, unless you are able to repel and attract that hammer however you like. And here's where the jiki jiki no mi comes in.
I think a giant named Thor existed in the op verse and that Thor character was the former user of the jiki jiki no mi – Kid's magnetic ability – and he happens to have left his hammer Mjolnir behind in Elbaf. But he did not just leave it behind, like you would leave any normal hammer behind. I think he sealed it to a gigantic iron socket with the awakening ability „assign“ of the jiki jiki no mi.
I think the hammer is now there waiting for someone, that is not only the new owner of the jiki jiki no mi, but also someone, that ended up becoming strong enough to awaken the fruit, realizing its full potential, so that Thor's original assign could get removed and he's getting to have a successor: the new wielder of Mjolnir.
I think Oda will capture the King Arthur/Excalibur- theme with all of that, where no one around was ever able to pick up Mjolnir, up until fate decided it's high time for Kid to shine and perform the impossible.
Kid's plot on Elbaf
I do not want to derail this thread by making up a full-fledged fanfic story about Kid, I will try to focus on parts, that I imagine could play out in a specific way, thanks to certain hints from the story and that are just likely to be a thing, thanks to pop culture influence.
I think in general it's likely that Kid might have a greater role in Elbaf. Afterall he's one of the two, who are responsible for defeating Big Mom. It's likely she's still kept in memory by most of the giants around, thanks to her gruesome past actions
And I think it's actually likely that Loki will be a shady guy. He was not only willing to form an alliance with BM, who is canonly hated by the giants, solely based on personal desire, he was also the only guy, who was ever rebuffed by Lola. If the girl, that tries to marry every man she comes across, rebuffs only one, something does not seem right.
It's not much to go by, but it's atleast something, that seems to lead into a certain direction.
And thanks to the fact that we strangely enough only ever heard from Loki and not once from a Thor, I can freely speculate that Thor might not be alive anymore.
Be it how it might be, I think that's where Kid and the Thor successor theme kicks in. I imagine Kid somehow finding his way to Thor's grave or monument, which btw might resemble that
… where Mjolnir is sealed and he will do the unthinkable: he's going to pick up Mjolnir by releasing it from the socket, leaving the giants flabbergasted.
And this will get the stone rolling. cause now he's not only the man, who defeated the great evil Big Mom. No. Now he's also the man, who succeeds the great warrior Thor. Thor, that was perhaps hailed to be the strongest and bravest warrior of Elbaf during his lifetime and who was well respected by all of the giants.
Oda now only has to throw in some antagonist - perhaps Loki -, that needs to be defeated and Kid can become the new hero of Elbaf, by smashing in the faces of whoever he has to face using his newfound power and perhaps by CoC blasting out an army of fodder- finally.
Technicalities
1 Mjolnir's weight and the ability to wield it
2 A permanent assign ability
Potential abilities
Let's just say that it would do better in bringing back his fruit's basic abilities than anything else ever could.
If you do not have enough already, go on and enjory my thoughts on that aspect of the speculation aswell
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If you have read all of this, I appreciate you a lot. I had this and some other ideas in my head for some weeks now and because of the recent break I thought, why not just bump out a series of threads.
If you don't want to get tagged anymore or if you want to get tagged for future threads, just tell me. And if anyone of you know some diehard Kid fans, feel free to tag them!
I cannot blame you
In the Marvel comics they could get away with Thor throwing around that hammer like that, thanks to concepts like magic or divine powers – or whatever it is -, but in one piece that kinda stuff would need a solid explanation, if it ever were to appear in the story.
Even if characters would be able to wield such a hammer, none of those would throw it around and expect it to come back. That is, unless you are able to repel and attract that hammer however you like. And here's where the jiki jiki no mi comes in.
I think a giant named Thor existed in the op verse and that Thor character was the former user of the jiki jiki no mi – Kid's magnetic ability – and he happens to have left his hammer Mjolnir behind in Elbaf. But he did not just leave it behind, like you would leave any normal hammer behind. I think he sealed it to a gigantic iron socket with the awakening ability „assign“ of the jiki jiki no mi.
I think the hammer is now there waiting for someone, that is not only the new owner of the jiki jiki no mi, but also someone, that ended up becoming strong enough to awaken the fruit, realizing its full potential, so that Thor's original assign could get removed and he's getting to have a successor: the new wielder of Mjolnir.
I think Oda will capture the King Arthur/Excalibur- theme with all of that, where no one around was ever able to pick up Mjolnir, up until fate decided it's high time for Kid to shine and perform the impossible.
Kid's plot on Elbaf
I do not want to derail this thread by making up a full-fledged fanfic story about Kid, I will try to focus on parts, that I imagine could play out in a specific way, thanks to certain hints from the story and that are just likely to be a thing, thanks to pop culture influence.
I think in general it's likely that Kid might have a greater role in Elbaf. Afterall he's one of the two, who are responsible for defeating Big Mom. It's likely she's still kept in memory by most of the giants around, thanks to her gruesome past actions
And I think it's actually likely that Loki will be a shady guy. He was not only willing to form an alliance with BM, who is canonly hated by the giants, solely based on personal desire, he was also the only guy, who was ever rebuffed by Lola. If the girl, that tries to marry every man she comes across, rebuffs only one, something does not seem right.
It's not much to go by, but it's atleast something, that seems to lead into a certain direction.
And thanks to the fact that we strangely enough only ever heard from Loki and not once from a Thor, I can freely speculate that Thor might not be alive anymore.
Be it how it might be, I think that's where Kid and the Thor successor theme kicks in. I imagine Kid somehow finding his way to Thor's grave or monument, which btw might resemble that
… where Mjolnir is sealed and he will do the unthinkable: he's going to pick up Mjolnir by releasing it from the socket, leaving the giants flabbergasted.
And this will get the stone rolling. cause now he's not only the man, who defeated the great evil Big Mom. No. Now he's also the man, who succeeds the great warrior Thor. Thor, that was perhaps hailed to be the strongest and bravest warrior of Elbaf during his lifetime and who was well respected by all of the giants.
Oda now only has to throw in some antagonist - perhaps Loki -, that needs to be defeated and Kid can become the new hero of Elbaf, by smashing in the faces of whoever he has to face using his newfound power and perhaps by CoC blasting out an army of fodder- finally.
Technicalities
1 Mjolnir's weight and the ability to wield it
Here we already have the reason why I think it's close to impossible for Ussop to be the one, to do it: it's going to be super heavy, cause it was presumably wielded by a giant, and for everyone else bar Kid this is just going to be too heavy imo. What would be the point of someone else wielding it and being hardly able to do so and then practically do nothing sort of spectacular with it?
I think that 10ton hammer gag from Ussop might have just been foreshadowing in general.
Luckily for Kid the jiki jiki no mi neutralizes any potential strength/weight limitation, when it's about a metallic object. He could even repel BM up into the air and he can assemble tons worth of metal scrap and wield them around freely
Means that thing could be unbearable heavy, but Kid could still wield it like it weighs nothing, thanks to his fruit.
I think that 10ton hammer gag from Ussop might have just been foreshadowing in general.
It's likely that certain DF effects are permanent and not just Logias' presumed climate changing ability.
Remember the invisible „staircase“ Apo ran over? Or how everything got longer on Long Ring Long land? Is that just magic or perhaps the doings of the awakened invisibiltiy fruit and the awakened Nika fruit?
Along those lines I think there might be an assign ability, that has a permanent effect. And with that ability Thor sealed Mjolnir to the socket.
Remember the invisible „staircase“ Apo ran over? Or how everything got longer on Long Ring Long land? Is that just magic or perhaps the doings of the awakened invisibiltiy fruit and the awakened Nika fruit?
Let's just say that it would do better in bringing back his fruit's basic abilities than anything else ever could.
If you do not have enough already, go on and enjory my thoughts on that aspect of the speculation aswell
His repel ability would enable him to throw that hammer around at high speeds, creating devastating attacks with a lot of potential range. It's also Thor's signature move
But it might also give him flight, similar to Marvel's Thor, if he could move/repel it while grabbing onto a fabric loop that might be attached to Mjolnir's handle.
This in turn would make it an easy task for him to assign his opponents
.. and also make him get out of Punk Clash w/o any problem
Add something like attacks from different positions.
I'm thinking about him flying above his opponents and then performing a downwards Mjolnir throw or a Mjolnir speedblitz. In theory resembling those:
And as easy as that you already have a lot of interesting things Oda could pull out of it. And it certainly would make Kid completely busted.
I'm thinking about him flying above his opponents and then performing a downwards Mjolnir throw or a Mjolnir speedblitz. In theory resembling those:
If you have read all of this, I appreciate you a lot. I had this and some other ideas in my head for some weeks now and because of the recent break I thought, why not just bump out a series of threads.
If you don't want to get tagged anymore or if you want to get tagged for future threads, just tell me. And if anyone of you know some diehard Kid fans, feel free to tag them!
I honestly never thought about Thor specifically, but it makes a lot of sense with asign and the hammer.
But what i thought alot about is, Kids connection to the northern mythology.
Long ago, i made a theory about him and the northern theme, but i resembled Kid more into the character of Tyr.
(May want to give it a read: (2) Theory - Adv.CoC of Kid -> TYR | Worstgen )
About Thor, i can see it, specially since the whole stuff about asign would fit perfectly.
About Loki, i always had another idea/direction in mind (mentioned here: (2) Character Discussion - Eustass 'Captain' Kid - Keep on rollin' | Worstgen ):
I always thought, since Loki seemed to play a different game then most of the giants, that the giants hyped Shanks alot, saw him as their friend, as their hero and so on. But Loki on the other hand was always mistrusting Shanks, which have put him in a kind of outsider position. Maybe Loki even know about the connection between Shanks and the 5 Elders. Keeping that in mind, i always thought about Kid getting trained by Loki, so they would build up some kind of connection and on the long run, Kid will free Elbaf from Shanks.
