Character Discussion Kid did nothing wrong

#23
They went for the man with burned marks.
Shanks send him immediately the message to drop his dream („worse than death“ according to oda) or go into war with him.
What, this message?
Yeah, he is giving this message to Kidd because the bloke has once again infringed on his territory. Compensation is the bare minimum Shanks should demand.

If anything, Shanks is still being reasonable. He is giving Kidd the chance to leave. Other Yonko like Kaido, Linlin and Teach wouldn't earnestly give that offer, they would just kill Kidd and take his stuff anyway.
 

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#27
You can't invade a protected territory and expect not to face consequences, what kinda logic is this? I can't invade a military base for example and expect not to get shot.
 
#28
Remember the time Kid had some pirates beaten and tied up, they asked to go back to Paradise so he crucified them? Also a man that historically killed anyone who laughed at him, what a saint.



If Kid is in that situation there is a room full of dead people. Guy is a psycho.

Kid reaped what he sowed. Ace was able to walk right up to Shanks and meet him without a fight. That shows Shanks doesn’t automatically destroy every rookie that enters his territory.

Kid, by contrast, opened fire on Shanks’ allies first. So he’s the one who chose violence to begin with.

Shanks still gave him an option of leaving without any further problems, but only if he left his RP copies behind.

Kid instead picked the route that only ends in bloodshed.

And the giants sank him for aiming a cannon at Elbaf, which he factually did. The ships were lined up in front of the mainland and I heavily doubt Kid gave a fuck what collateral destruction he would cause taking them out. If one beam goes astray, or carries on through the ship, he’s hitting Elbaf.

All in all, Kid got everything he deserved.
 
#30
If I was Kidd and I saw what it took to defeat a Yonkou (circumstantial and with the help of another dude who basically carried the fight) and let's not forget your rival, Luffy, took Kaido down on his own, who most definitely one shot Kidd as well... like give it a rest dude, you need to train, learn to hone conquerors haki and wield it the way the strongest do, you definitely have it in you.

Just charging onwards and hoping for the best was never going to cut it (if you're not the main character). His over reliance on metal parts is such an anchor, as cool as it sounds on paper.

Future sight is such an ass haki power when you're able to see a whole event unfold before it happens. Leaves me bitter because if that's the future that Shanks saw, Oda should have followed it through by showing Kidd charging his attack up in real time, so that way there is no doubt in the readers mind about Kidd's intentions (in terms of annihilating the fleet with his awakened cannon) instead we see Shanks teleport towards him like a mad man and we get a Kidd frozen solid from shock and fear.
 
#31
Remember the time Kid had some pirates beaten and tied up, they asked to go back to Paradise so he crucified them? Also a man that historically killed anyone who laughed at him, what a saint.



If Kid is in that situation there is a room full of dead people. Guy is a psycho.

Kid reaped what he sowed. Ace was able to walk right up to Shanks and meet him without a fight. That shows Shanks doesn’t automatically destroy every rookie that enters his territory.

Kid, by contrast, opened fire on Shanks’ allies first. So he’s the one who chose violence to begin with.

Shanks still gave him an option of leaving without any further problems, but only if he left his RP copies behind.

Kid instead picked the route that only ends in bloodshed.

And the giants sank him for aiming a cannon at Elbaf, which he factually did. The ships were lined up in front of the mainland and I heavily doubt Kid gave a fuck what collateral destruction he would cause taking them out. If one beam goes astray, or carries on through the ship, he’s hitting Elbaf.

All in all, Kid got everything he deserved.
they probably read the news paper and saw that he attacks civillians
Which is pretty much a rumor in the newspaper about every pirate in the world.
guys kid is a saint, he would never do anything bad cmon
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#32
Hey guys!

For some reason, there goes the cope about Kid would have attacked the elbaf civilians or something, at least Brogy and Dorry try to justify their actions like that.

But Kid haven’t done anything like that and even in the future sight he didn’t anything in that direction.

Kid only and singlely attacked the Red Hair pirates fleet, which declared war on him, if he doesn’t drop his dream immediately (by giving the RPs to Shanks and crawl).

After this declaration of war, it is absolute reasonable to give the first shot at these pirates. He didn’t attacked civilians or planed to do so.

So, how do come Brogy and Dorry to this strange claim?
Kid still came looking for a war with Shanks in Elbaph.

The reason Shanks' fleet even came to attack Kid to begin with, was because Kid was after Shanks.

But yeah, Dorry/Brogy statement is a bit odd. Kid wasn't gonna attack random dudes in Elbaph.
 
#33
We don't know who the man with the burned marks is. Given Kidd went to Elbaf, he might've been located there. You also imply that Kidd would've gone the diplomatic route with said man, when he in fact has a track record of being a savage. He also tried to take down the RHP in the past already. Shanks did his homework, gathered information on Kidd, made sure Kidd is fully healed and rested and gave him the opportunity to retreat.

Wasting Kidd as a group of pirates that is in the race for the PK Throne just as Kidd, was fair game. Absolutely.
 
#38
They attacked an already defeated and surrendered enemy.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/es/customary-ihl/v2/rule47

The rules of war clearly set the boundaries of combat. A soldier who has surrendered or who is wounded is outside them. Attacking a combatant who has surrendered is murder and the same also applies to attacking a combatant who has been wounded and has ceased to pose a threat to our forces.“
A bit odd to bring up real life international treaties regarding the treatment of military personnel between internationally recognised sovereign states when in real life, Kidd would most likely be considered an international terrorist whom most nations would find it justifiable to deal with via spec-ops death squads or with targeted drone strikes.
 
#39
Lbaf giants attacked Kid who can one shot both of them. So Liants= Frauds
Yet who's still alive? The giants? Or that little bitch kid?
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Kid fans are pathetic. Luffy has been saying it since the east blue, if you want to be a pirate you have to be prepared to risk your own life.

Kid just learned that when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes
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The idea that kid would beat shanks is more embarrassing than zkk
 
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