Character Discussion Killer has the most unbalanced bounty in the verse
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Sanji had a bounty rise of 100 millions while he was not even present in DR, followed by another 150 millions for escaping WCI
Zoro had a 200 millions increase for defeating Pica
Nami 50 millions after Dressrosa
You tellin' me that during 2 years of NW he did nothing to deserve more than a 38 millions increase, even when we know that his crew was the most active?
Oda fucked up Killer bounty really bad, I hope he gets the realistic one after the war
Zoro had a 200 millions increase for defeating Pica
Nami 50 millions after Dressrosa
You tellin' me that during 2 years of NW he did nothing to deserve more than a 38 millions increase, even when we know that his crew was the most active?
Oda fucked up Killer bounty really bad, I hope he gets the realistic one after the war
Sanji had a bounty rise of 100 millions while he was not even present in DR, followed by another 150 millions for escaping WCI
Zoro had a 200 millions increase for defeating Pica
Nami 50 millions after Dressrosa
You tellin' me that during 2 years of NW he did nothing to deserve more than a 38 millions increase, even when we know that his crew was the most active?
Oda fucked up Killer bounty really bad, I hope he gets the realistic one after the war
Zoro had a 200 millions increase for defeating Pica
Nami 50 millions after Dressrosa
You tellin' me that during 2 years of NW he did nothing to deserve more than a 38 millions increase, even when we know that his crew was the most active?
Oda fucked up Killer bounty really bad, I hope he gets the realistic one after the war
Zoro got a 200 million increase for actually beating an opponent, which that was instrumental in the downfall of the Donquioxte Pirates. Who has Killer beaten? What crews did the Kid Pirates take down?
Nami got her raise for being part of the Strawhats who took down Doflamingo. That was worth 50 million. Oda’s told us that for the majority of cases, that’s how subordinates bounties are raised, since they don’t stand out like the captains do.
So yeah, Killer did nothing worth raising his bounty more than 38 million. Who did he beat, individually? Nobody. What pirate crews did the Kid Pirates destroy? None. What did they do to worry the World Gov? Nothing.
A 38 million raise for someone who’s best achievement was merely being part of a group that wounded- without defeating- a SC and left WCI having stole something is perfectly fair. It’s more than the majority of the Strawhats got on WCI for being involved in a vastly more impressive snatch and grab
Ok, for the Sanji explanation. In regards of the impressiveness of the operation we don't know anything about it, but we know for sure that Kidd Pirates did it during the 1st year of the TS, without Bege-Pudding-Vinsmokes-Fishmen help.
Is off topic, but does it make sense to you that Zoro had a 200 millions increase for Pica, while Luffy had a 100 millions for Doffy and Law a 60 millions for Doffy?
If Nami had a 50 millions increase for being a part of the crew that took down the Don Quixote Family, why shouldn't Killer get even more for being a part of the crew that invaded Totland, reaching their objective and managing to flee? While being a Supernova already?
This makes absolutely no sense.
Nobody we know about, we're following the Strawhat journey not the Kidd Pirates journey. Kidd crew was the most active tho, you telling me that Killer did nothing impressive in 2 years while being in the most active SN crew?
If so, that would mean that Kidd did everything and he should get a much higher bounty than the one he actually has.
Taking what you said for true the problem would still be present, just switched on another character.
So, again, getting 38 millions for the WCI invasion, but getting 50 millions for DR invasion...
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the only realistic possibility is that WG doesn't know about a lot of shit regarding Kidd crew
Is off topic, but does it make sense to you that Zoro had a 200 millions increase for Pica, while Luffy had a 100 millions for Doffy and Law a 60 millions for Doffy?
If Nami had a 50 millions increase for being a part of the crew that took down the Don Quixote Family, why shouldn't Killer get even more for being a part of the crew that invaded Totland, reaching their objective and managing to flee? While being a Supernova already?
This makes absolutely no sense.
Nobody we know about, we're following the Strawhat journey not the Kidd Pirates journey. Kidd crew was the most active tho, you telling me that Killer did nothing impressive in 2 years while being in the most active SN crew?
If so, that would mean that Kidd did everything and he should get a much higher bounty than the one he actually has.
Taking what you said for true the problem would still be present, just switched on another character.
So, again, getting 38 millions for the WCI invasion, but getting 50 millions for DR invasion...
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the only realistic possibility is that WG doesn't know about a lot of shit regarding Kidd crew
Yeah. The thing that’s important about the bounties isn’t the amount raised, but the final amount.
So, if you look at Dressrosa, people shouldn’t be thinking “oh, beating Pica is worth 200 million, but Doflamingo only 100?” Because obviously from that perspective it doesn’t make sense. It’s what the bounty becomes that’s important- “beating Pica makes you worth 320 million, beating Doflamingo 500 million.“ That makes sense, because Luffy’s still ahead of Zoro by 180 million as he did the most impressive thing.
It makes perfect sense, because beating Doflamingo is more impressive- and far more threatening to the World Gov- than what the Kid Pirates did. Are actually trying to say wounding Snack and running away is more impressive than beating Doflamingo and his crew? Which upset the entire balance of power?
Based on your logic, Nami’s (and Chopper’s, Brook‘s and Carrot’s) bounty should be shitting all over Killer‘s, since she was part of a half a crew that invaded Totland, took out two SC’s, stole Poneglyphs, wrecked the island, ruined BM’s plan, faced off with her and left to tell the tale. That is objectively superior to what the Kid Pirates did.
Exactly. Nobody we know about. Oda took the time to tell us Urouge beat Snack. He took the time to tell us that Kid wounded a SC. He took the time to tell us Law had been involved in the Rocky Port incident, whatever that was. If Killer had done something impressive, we’d know about it.
Instead, he got a minuscule raise and no mention of any impressive raise. That says he did nothing overly impressive up until now, not that he has apparently great achievements that the World Gov is somehow comepltely unaware of.
“Activity“ can be stuff like them sinking two of BM’s ships like Tamago told about in FI or beating up random pirates like at the start of the timeskip. They aren’t doing nothing, but they aren’t doing anything overly impressive either.
No, because the only impressive thing that Kid did was wounding Snack and getting out of Totland. Which is worth 470 million.
You’re just making up imaginery great achievements for the Kid Pirates when we know what they did, and it wasn’t anything great.
So, if you look at Dressrosa, people shouldn’t be thinking “oh, beating Pica is worth 200 million, but Doflamingo only 100?” Because obviously from that perspective it doesn’t make sense. It’s what the bounty becomes that’s important- “beating Pica makes you worth 320 million, beating Doflamingo 500 million.“ That makes sense, because Luffy’s still ahead of Zoro by 180 million as he did the most impressive thing.
It makes perfect sense, because beating Doflamingo is more impressive- and far more threatening to the World Gov- than what the Kid Pirates did. Are actually trying to say wounding Snack and running away is more impressive than beating Doflamingo and his crew? Which upset the entire balance of power?
Based on your logic, Nami’s (and Chopper’s, Brook‘s and Carrot’s) bounty should be shitting all over Killer‘s, since she was part of a half a crew that invaded Totland, took out two SC’s, stole Poneglyphs, wrecked the island, ruined BM’s plan, faced off with her and left to tell the tale. That is objectively superior to what the Kid Pirates did.
Exactly. Nobody we know about. Oda took the time to tell us Urouge beat Snack. He took the time to tell us that Kid wounded a SC. He took the time to tell us Law had been involved in the Rocky Port incident, whatever that was. If Killer had done something impressive, we’d know about it.
Instead, he got a minuscule raise and no mention of any impressive raise. That says he did nothing overly impressive up until now, not that he has apparently great achievements that the World Gov is somehow comepltely unaware of.
“Activity“ can be stuff like them sinking two of BM’s ships like Tamago told about in FI or beating up random pirates like at the start of the timeskip. They aren’t doing nothing, but they aren’t doing anything overly impressive either.
No, because the only impressive thing that Kid did was wounding Snack and getting out of Totland. Which is worth 470 million.
You’re just making up imaginery great achievements for the Kid Pirates when we know what they did, and it wasn’t anything great.
Pica’s bounty had been frozen at 99 million years a decade ago. It didn’t reflect his strength when Zoro beat him, same way Doflamingo’s 340 million bounty didn’t reflect his strength. We don’t even know if Pica had his DF when his bounty was frozen, I don’t remember him using it any of the flashbacks.
The final figure of a bounty is all that matters. Luffy and Law were worth 500 million, Zoro 320 million. It’s utterly asinine to think that the World Gov somehow felt that beating Pica was more impressive than beating Doflamingo so they gave Zoro 200 million and Luffy 100.
The final figure of a bounty is all that matters. Luffy and Law were worth 500 million, Zoro 320 million. It’s utterly asinine to think that the World Gov somehow felt that beating Pica was more impressive than beating Doflamingo so they gave Zoro 200 million and Luffy 100.
Still doesn't explain how Killer has the same bounty of Usopp
You're assuming the SC was Snack when we're not sure of who he was (could be Cracker or Smoothie too, the only one who for sure wasn't is Katakuri), and anyway iinvading Totland and succeeding still reflects a major level of danger, doesn't matter the way you put it. The DR incident was done by a Pirate Alliance, in Doflamingo's Kingdom after 2 years of the TS. Totland invasion (Big Mom's territory) was done by a single Pirate crew during the 1st year.
Even the SH's achievements in WCI happened with a Pirate Alliance and a lot of help (bounties were also exagerated by surnames and fake news), while Kidd crew did it on his own (and as caribou showed, a different and more humiliating story is talked around).
Nothing explains this shitty 38 millions raise.
Yeah boy, Killer chilled on the Victoria Punk for 2 years eating spaghetti and somehow became as strong as he is now
"Activity" yeah, Oda made sure to give a background only to Kidd crew (excluding Blackbeard Pirates), and something to Law too. So yes, their "activity" was highlighted multiple times
You're assuming (again) that the SC was Snack, so we are both making assumptions. And I'm doing these assumptions cause I collected the details of Kidd Pirates journey and this low bounty increase makes no sense at all when you look at the complete picture, unless the events aren't known to the outside world (as Caribou words suggest)
Also "it wasn't anything great"? Name me another Pirate crew who was highlighted in the same way (SHs and BBPs excluded)
You're assuming the SC was Snack when we're not sure of who he was (could be Cracker or Smoothie too, the only one who for sure wasn't is Katakuri), and anyway iinvading Totland and succeeding still reflects a major level of danger, doesn't matter the way you put it. The DR incident was done by a Pirate Alliance, in Doflamingo's Kingdom after 2 years of the TS. Totland invasion (Big Mom's territory) was done by a single Pirate crew during the 1st year.
Even the SH's achievements in WCI happened with a Pirate Alliance and a lot of help (bounties were also exagerated by surnames and fake news), while Kidd crew did it on his own (and as caribou showed, a different and more humiliating story is talked around).
Nothing explains this shitty 38 millions raise.
Yeah boy, Killer chilled on the Victoria Punk for 2 years eating spaghetti and somehow became as strong as he is now
"Activity" yeah, Oda made sure to give a background only to Kidd crew (excluding Blackbeard Pirates), and something to Law too. So yes, their "activity" was highlighted multiple times
You're assuming (again) that the SC was Snack, so we are both making assumptions. And I'm doing these assumptions cause I collected the details of Kidd Pirates journey and this low bounty increase makes no sense at all when you look at the complete picture, unless the events aren't known to the outside world (as Caribou words suggest)
Also "it wasn't anything great"? Name me another Pirate crew who was highlighted in the same way (SHs and BBPs excluded)
A bounty does not correlate directly to strength. A little girl can get a 79 million bounty for knowing how to read a specific kind of text. Usopp may not be as strong as Killer, but his actions at Dressrosa resulted in what was by far the most influential shift in the tide of the battle, and, indeed, the world at large.
Both Kidd and Killlers bounties should be a bit higher than it is right now. Their exploits in WCI were covered up and instead the world thinks that Kidd went to WCI to see Big Mom, got his arm cut off, and ran away from her commander without seeing her. I’m sure if the WG knew that Kidd was able invade a Yonkos territory without any intentions of fighting BM, steal something, injure one of her commanders, and leave then Kidd and his crew would have gotten credit and a decent bounty raise. Depending on what he stole and which commander he got past this could also play into how big of a bounty raise it would be.
Usopp was instrumental in the defeat of Doflamingo’s crew, which had worldwide implications.
He absolutely deserved his bounty. His initial “defeat” of Sugar being a gag was offset by his genuinely amazing sniping feat to beat her the second time around, saving Luffy and Law.
With reason. The first thing Snack has ever said was to mutter “Worst Generation“ angrily. That suggests he dislikes more than just Urouge, but the group as a whole. Neither Cracker or Smoothie has ever said anything to suggest they care about the Worst Gen, which they surely would if Kid had wounded them.
Far more reason to think it was Snack that Kid fought than the other two.
Nothing says when Kid invaded Totland. All we know is that it happened after he got his arm taken off by the Red Hairs.
And whenever it happened, it still doesn’t make what Kid did anywhere near as impressive as defeating Doflamingo. Brulee was there and she was laughing about Kid’s invasion of Totland, she didn’t think what he did was any more impressive than what Apoo managed.
Who cares that the Kid Pirates did it on their own? That doesn’t somehow make what they did any more impressive. Luffy and Nami alone, by beating Cracker, achieved more than Kid and his entire crew did in their raid of Totland.
Did I say that?
All the Worst Gen got stronger, Killer’s not special in that regard.
What do you mean by “background.”
It does though. What they did simply isn’t that impressive, compared to the Strawhats. There’s no reason why Kid should have a higher bounty than 470 million for wounding a SC, when defeating Doflamingo was worth 500 million. There’s no reason that Killer should have 200 million for... doing nothing individually, when defeating Pica is worth 320 milliom.
Law masterminded Rocky Port, where Coby made his name, took 100 pirate hearts and became a Warlord
Drake became a TR, destroyed a samurai village, was memtioned with Kid in the first chapter post skip.
Urouge defeated a SC
Brulee didn’t think there was any difference between what Apoo managed and what Kid did, Apoo also became a Kaido informant
Capone joined the BM Pirates and became their security chief
Bonney somehow has managed to escape Marine custody
The only one who there was never really highlighted was Hawkins, since all we know about him was that he beat Brownbeard right at the start.
He absolutely deserved his bounty. His initial “defeat” of Sugar being a gag was offset by his genuinely amazing sniping feat to beat her the second time around, saving Luffy and Law.
With reason. The first thing Snack has ever said was to mutter “Worst Generation“ angrily. That suggests he dislikes more than just Urouge, but the group as a whole. Neither Cracker or Smoothie has ever said anything to suggest they care about the Worst Gen, which they surely would if Kid had wounded them.
Far more reason to think it was Snack that Kid fought than the other two.
Nothing says when Kid invaded Totland. All we know is that it happened after he got his arm taken off by the Red Hairs.
And whenever it happened, it still doesn’t make what Kid did anywhere near as impressive as defeating Doflamingo. Brulee was there and she was laughing about Kid’s invasion of Totland, she didn’t think what he did was any more impressive than what Apoo managed.
Who cares that the Kid Pirates did it on their own? That doesn’t somehow make what they did any more impressive. Luffy and Nami alone, by beating Cracker, achieved more than Kid and his entire crew did in their raid of Totland.
Did I say that?
All the Worst Gen got stronger, Killer’s not special in that regard.
What do you mean by “background.”
It does though. What they did simply isn’t that impressive, compared to the Strawhats. There’s no reason why Kid should have a higher bounty than 470 million for wounding a SC, when defeating Doflamingo was worth 500 million. There’s no reason that Killer should have 200 million for... doing nothing individually, when defeating Pica is worth 320 milliom.
Law masterminded Rocky Port, where Coby made his name, took 100 pirate hearts and became a Warlord
Drake became a TR, destroyed a samurai village, was memtioned with Kid in the first chapter post skip.
Urouge defeated a SC
Brulee didn’t think there was any difference between what Apoo managed and what Kid did, Apoo also became a Kaido informant
Capone joined the BM Pirates and became their security chief
Bonney somehow has managed to escape Marine custody
The only one who there was never really highlighted was Hawkins, since all we know about him was that he beat Brownbeard right at the start.