Controversial King and Queen’s fake bounties
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I'm pretty sure not a single Lunarian was known to exist for a lot of time until a youngling was found alive in spite of his race being supposedly erased almost a milenium ago.
I'll repeat it one last time: in practice it's irrelevant whether more Lunarians actually exist or King is the last; offering a reward for information on Lunarians is a method to keep an eye on them, so if a Lunarian who isn't King happened to be seen the Government would be capable of tracing and killing him. It's a preventive measure.
I will answer you as a whole: your problem is that you're missing the theme Oda is trying to depict. Each emperor and crew has a theme going on; it's a requirement to make them distinctive, a writer's basic. None of them are saints, obviously, and of course they will do questionable stuff from Shanks to Kaidou; but again, Kaidou himself and his crew have a theme and it's barbarism.
Why is Oda choosing an animal theme for them? Why is he taking the Mongols as inspiration, who are one of the most barbarically portrayed people in popular media? What do ogres represent and why does the crew have an oni theme, from Kaidou himself to the design of the subordinates, to every Tobi Roppo bar Drake having horns, to a group of oni-like giants? Why is he naming the all-stars after natural disasters, specifically and as a whole instead of the pointless counterargument of your single epithets that either aren't true or don't convey the same dangerousness to civilians? Why is he working with references as savage as Shuten-doji, Attila or pretty much the Devil himself with torture motifs, plus an overall aesthetic linked directly to inhumanity and beastliness (horns, fur, etc.)? Why is Wano the only Yonko main territory which is pretty much destroyed and a hard dictatorship full of poverty, poisonous food and water, slavery and suffering to the point of mothers killing their own children; can you even name one emperor doing so much harm to the people in their territory? Why that irrationality, destructiveness you seem to apply to Jack alone is the exact image Momonosuke got from "pirates" because of his experience with the Beasts Pirates, when Jack was only eight?
This isn't much about what the Government actually knows or not (we wouldn't know anyways; and remember the Beasts Pirates went out to sea even in recent times); you need to see this from a meta perspective. When Oda built the Beast Pirates he made sure to portray them as the barbaric crew. You have the chilling guy, the seemingly monstrous but ultimately reasonable and caring father, the mafia boss and then, guess what: the ogre, the Mongolian, the hard dictator, the brute, the animal, the inhuman... Should I go on?
It's just dishonest to not get Oda's message here. Every pirate crew can be destructive; only Kaidou's is barbaric with recurring themes of bestliness, calamity, sadism and so.
I'll repeat it one last time: in practice it's irrelevant whether more Lunarians actually exist or King is the last; offering a reward for information on Lunarians is a method to keep an eye on them, so if a Lunarian who isn't King happened to be seen the Government would be capable of tracing and killing him. It's a preventive measure.
I will answer you as a whole: your problem is that you're missing the theme Oda is trying to depict. Each emperor and crew has a theme going on; it's a requirement to make them distinctive, a writer's basic. None of them are saints, obviously, and of course they will do questionable stuff from Shanks to Kaidou; but again, Kaidou himself and his crew have a theme and it's barbarism.
Why is Oda choosing an animal theme for them? Why is he taking the Mongols as inspiration, who are one of the most barbarically portrayed people in popular media? What do ogres represent and why does the crew have an oni theme, from Kaidou himself to the design of the subordinates, to every Tobi Roppo bar Drake having horns, to a group of oni-like giants? Why is he naming the all-stars after natural disasters, specifically and as a whole instead of the pointless counterargument of your single epithets that either aren't true or don't convey the same dangerousness to civilians? Why is he working with references as savage as Shuten-doji, Attila or pretty much the Devil himself with torture motifs, plus an overall aesthetic linked directly to inhumanity and beastliness (horns, fur, etc.)? Why is Wano the only Yonko main territory which is pretty much destroyed and a hard dictatorship full of poverty, poisonous food and water, slavery and suffering to the point of mothers killing their own children; can you even name one emperor doing so much harm to the people in their territory? Why that irrationality, destructiveness you seem to apply to Jack alone is the exact image Momonosuke got from "pirates" because of his experience with the Beasts Pirates, when Jack was only eight?
This isn't much about what the Government actually knows or not (we wouldn't know anyways; and remember the Beasts Pirates went out to sea even in recent times); you need to see this from a meta perspective. When Oda built the Beast Pirates he made sure to portray them as the barbaric crew. You have the chilling guy, the seemingly monstrous but ultimately reasonable and caring father, the mafia boss and then, guess what: the ogre, the Mongolian, the hard dictator, the brute, the animal, the inhuman... Should I go on?
It's just dishonest to not get Oda's message here. Every pirate crew can be destructive; only Kaidou's is barbaric with recurring themes of bestliness, calamity, sadism and so.
Or they want back the one and only that escaped their testing facility?
And there are no other Lunarians around, with a possible exception of Imu himself.
All relevant characters in the future are already known and none of them are Lunarians.
And the only remaining one was under Kaido's wing wrapped up in a suit so nobody can tell he is one.
The reward is to get back the only one that is out there hiding somewhere.
The things they want, they put high rewards on, such as two 5bil berry fruits.
If they knew King was Lunarian, they would up his bounty to a ridiculous amount and name him Alber on the poster.
And there are no other Lunarians around, with a possible exception of Imu himself.
All relevant characters in the future are already known and none of them are Lunarians.
And the only remaining one was under Kaido's wing wrapped up in a suit so nobody can tell he is one.
The reward is to get back the only one that is out there hiding somewhere.
The things they want, they put high rewards on, such as two 5bil berry fruits.
If they knew King was Lunarian, they would up his bounty to a ridiculous amount and name him Alber on the poster.
Like @Charlotte Horchata said the calamities are meant to be barbaric compare to the other yonko crews which could explain their bounties being much higher than the sweet generals and strawhat crew still.
If they only wanted back the one and only that escaped their testing facility they would have published a bounty for him just like they did with Robin. A reward for any information is, once again, preventive in case they missed Lunarians alive just like they missed whatever individuals who procreated for eight hundred years so we have King.
"All relevant characters in the future are already known", how the hell can you say this absurdity knowing Oda, for God's sake. Keep it serious, please.
Robin is way more dangerous than any Lunarian and he isn't even 1 billion (now, before even less). And again, everybody of relevance who had contact with King knows about his race. Marco understood it easily, Queen publicly speaks of Lunarians and Linlin is well aware of King's race. CP-0 is pretty much the best intelligence agency in the whole world and the Government the most powerful organization; assuming they don't know that the guy with black wings and fire on his back fighting as Kaidou's number two is the same as the Lunarian who disappeared alongside Kaidou is just laughable.
The possibility of Lunarians being still alive is always there; how do you increase your chance to trace them, just in case? Offering a reward for any information on them. Simple as that. Anything else is your weak attempt at hyping a 1.39b subordinate.
"All relevant characters in the future are already known", how the hell can you say this absurdity knowing Oda, for God's sake. Keep it serious, please.
Robin is way more dangerous than any Lunarian and he isn't even 1 billion (now, before even less). And again, everybody of relevance who had contact with King knows about his race. Marco understood it easily, Queen publicly speaks of Lunarians and Linlin is well aware of King's race. CP-0 is pretty much the best intelligence agency in the whole world and the Government the most powerful organization; assuming they don't know that the guy with black wings and fire on his back fighting as Kaidou's number two is the same as the Lunarian who disappeared alongside Kaidou is just laughable.
The possibility of Lunarians being still alive is always there; how do you increase your chance to trace them, just in case? Offering a reward for any information on them. Simple as that. Anything else is your weak attempt at hyping a 1.39b subordinate.
I can say it because it is true. All players are already known and none of them are Lunarians.
The only unknown players come from World Government side and they certainly arent looking for ppl among their own ranks.
Marco is a narrating plot device that introduces us to Lunarians. Him knowing about King being one isnt doable otherwise.
The world is hollow, there are no Lunarians procreating for 800 years, Oda pulled one out of thin air.
Robin is irrelevant since they value King for something very different, racial abilities and they pay a lot for abilities.
LinLin literally thought Lunarians were extinct until she saw one standing in front of her.
If they knew, his bounty poster would not be King, it would be Alber. And he would be worth a lot more.
I dont need to hype "weak" subordinate when the same guy had Roof Piece as his hype tool and is tougher than Kaido himself.
The only unknown players come from World Government side and they certainly arent looking for ppl among their own ranks.
Marco is a narrating plot device that introduces us to Lunarians. Him knowing about King being one isnt doable otherwise.
The world is hollow, there are no Lunarians procreating for 800 years, Oda pulled one out of thin air.
Robin is irrelevant since they value King for something very different, racial abilities and they pay a lot for abilities.
LinLin literally thought Lunarians were extinct until she saw one standing in front of her.
If they knew, his bounty poster would not be King, it would be Alber. And he would be worth a lot more.
I dont need to hype "weak" subordinate when the same guy had Roof Piece as his hype tool and is tougher than Kaido himself.
