Questions & Mysteries king and queen are not 1vs1 battles....

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stealthblack

#1
marco & sanji vs king, sky battle, drake and zoro vs queen, dino swordman battle on ground?

there is no way any of drake, sanji, zoro, marco can beat them 1vs1 fast, only after some luffy vs katakuri like battle they have no time for in a war.
 
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stealthblack

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Why should Zoro fight Queen at all? Why doesn't he go fight Kaido instead since he at least cares to fight him.

What aspect of the story whether narrative or thematic or character driven shows that Zoro should fight Queen AT ALL
he cared more to fight orochi, so what he cares doesn't count. queen is the new kaku, long neck zoan dual swordman, kaidou is not swordman
 
#7
he cared more to fight orochi, so what he cares doesn't count. queen is the new kaku, long neck zoan dual swordman, kaidou is not swordman
Orochi is not a swordsman either. He swang a sword so badly he couldn't kill a child. Kaidou sang a sword once and decapitated him. Kaidou is more of a swordsman than orochi is.

There's no reason to believe Zoro won't fit orochi. But theres also no reason to say Orochi is strong enough for pose an actual threat to Zoro even if they fight. It will be a slaughter.

Queen is not kaku. Queen is not the strongest swordsman in wano. Queen is not the second strongest villain of the main arc villains. Zoro has Zero obligation to fight him as par the story. He's too weak as par the story to be worth fighting since he's not the strongest swordsman and he carries NO RELEVANCE to Zoro's dream since fighting anyone besides the strongest doesn't matter.

Sorry. Please present any single narrative reason for this.

Like what you want to say is that Zoro just won't fight anyone.

Zoro wanting to know get kaidou or orochi doesnt matter since what Zoro wants doesn't matter.

Zoro saying he wants to cut fire and his role being the guy who fights the second strongest and strongest swordsman doesn't matter. Because king, the second strongest who is the strongest swordsman and uses fire CAN ALSO FLY. Yup. Because he can fly Zoro won't fight him.

Queen is entirely useless thematically or narratively to anything Zoro usually does or cares about.

Maybe Zoro won't fight anyone. Yup
 
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Orochi is not a swordsman either. He swang a sword so badly he couldn't kill a child. Kaidou sang a sword once and decapitated him. Kaidou is more of a swordsman than orochi is.

There's no reason to believe Zoro won't fit orochi. But theres also no reason to say Orochi is strong enough for pose an actual threat to Zoro even if they fight. It will be a slaughter.

Queen is not kaku. Queen is not the strongest swordsman in wano. Queen is not the second strongest villain of the main arc villains. Zoro has Zero obligation to fight him as par the story. He's too weak as par the story to be worth fighting since he's not the strongest swordsman and he carries NO RELEVANCE to Zoro's dream since fighting anyone besides the strongest doesn't matter.

Sorry. Please present any single narrative reason for this.

Like what you want to say is that Zoro just won't fight anyone.

Zoro wanting to know get kaidou or orochi doesnt matter since what Zoro wants doesn't matter.

Zoro saying he wants to cut fire and his role being the guy who fights the second strongest and strongest swordsman doesn't matter. Because king, the second strongest who is the strongest swordsman and uses fire CAN ALSO FLY. Yup. Because he can fly Zoro won't fight him.

Queen is entirely useless thematically or narratively to anything Zoro usually does or cares about.

Maybe Zoro won't fight anyone. Yup
Queen is the strongest nitoryu user. King is the strongest kicker.
 
#12
The calamities won't go down in a one on one, but after they're defeated and come back, then that's when someone else will beat them. I think for King, Sanji will take him out, and then when King comes back after healing, Law or Marco will defeat him for good.
 
#14
Why should Zoro fight Queen at all? Why doesn't he go fight Kaido instead since he at least cares to fight him.

What aspect of the story whether narrative or thematic or character driven shows that Zoro should fight Queen AT ALL
There isnt, it's a narrative by Sanji Stans, to give them false superiority over Zoro so Sanji can fight King
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Queen is the strongest nitoryu user, King is the strongest ittoryu user.
That logic makes literally 0 sense
 
#15
marco & sanji vs king, sky battle, drake and zoro vs queen, dino swordman battle on ground?

there is no way any of drake, sanji, zoro, marco can beat them 1vs1 fast, only after some luffy vs katakuri like battle they have no time for in a war.
I like this possible matchup .
There is no way zoro and sanji will solo calamities . Zoro and sanji will deal major damage and final blow to respective opponent. After this arc i believe they can solo any yonko commander .
 
#16
I like this possible matchup .
There is no way zoro and sanji will solo calamities . Zoro and sanji will deal major damage and final blow to respective opponent. After this arc i believe they can solo any yonko commander .
Why does it matter then? Like if Zoro doesn't get a meaningful 1v1 then why bother?

Who cares if Zoro just helps some other guy ein sone fight. He's supposed to be on the path to be WSS. It's not like he will fight Mihawk in a 2v1 as well. So why would him fighting in a 2v1 now even matter? It's just a waste of time. Let Zoro go fight fodder instead of wasting our time
 
#17
marco & sanji vs king, sky battle, drake and zoro vs queen, dino swordman battle on ground?

there is no way any of drake, sanji, zoro, marco can beat them 1vs1 fast, only after some luffy vs katakuri like battle they have no time for in a war.
My guy sanji and marco would neg diff king. You have to remember marco is as strong if not stronger than king and sanji speed plus invisibility are huge. I mean everytime king tries to do anything what's stopping sanji from snaking him? Then if he tries to stop sanji he leaves himself open to marco to kick him across the island.

Zoro might well be enough by himself with x drake that's way to much fire power for him. With this is doesn't make sense for zoro to double team queen unless the entire crew depended on beating queen which it doesn't.

Imo these flights would just worsen characters and we'd still not get zoro and sanji going all out cuz they wouldn't need to. Hell sanji would basically be playing support in his big fight.
 
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