Questions & Mysteries King Harald and the World Government

[ShinichiMugi]

In the last chapter,we hear from the God Knights the possibility of "visiting Haradl's grave",but why so? Was there some relationship with Harald and the World Government? So far we know that:

-King Harald wanted to open Elbaph to the world and to make commercial deals instead of wars
-The Holy Knights arrived in Elbaph trough "The Abyss" that was inside King Harald's throne room. Coincidece,or someone from the WG came in that room before?

What was the relationship between Harald and the World Government? Did they just talk about Harald's intention to open Elbaph to outside world,or there was some evil scheme in the works,maybe ruined by Loki somehow?

 

[Roo]

I think Harald was naive, his ideas are ideas oda pushes through good characters. Peace, education, establish relationships etc are good things

I think he got hoodwinked by the WG and was led to believe it is the democracy that it’s supposed to be. He probably was in talks with the Gorosei about joining the WG until Loki killed him

 

[Afroking]

I think Harald was naive, his ideas are ideas oda pushes through good characters. Peace, education, establish relationships etc are good things

I think he got hoodwinked by the WG and was led to believe it is the democracy that it’s supposed to be. He probably was in talks with the Gorosei about joining the WG until Loki killed him

Do you really think the pink haired "princess" of the arc ,killed his father?

 

[Roo]

Do you really think the pink haired "princess" of the arc ,killed his father?

I rather Loki to be a nuanced character than another framed royal

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

I have a feeling that Harald was a shady individual in fact, opposite to his reputation. He was probably selling Elbaf to the WG, that's probably why Loki killed him and the Holy Knights respect him so much.

Loki is being set up as a wrongfully convicted character IMO. I don't think that he would kill Harald if he was just naive.

 

[Afroking]

I rather Loki to be a nuanced character than another framed royal

Sure,but Oda doesn't change his ways.. He always tries to frame someone in his arcs...
Cobra
Noland/Ganfall(?I don't remember)
Robin
Vegapunk
Riku
Oden

Now Loki

He really likes his frame-job and his tickingbomb scenarios...

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Elbaph is a big subversion. Loki is perceived as evil but is secretly the hero, Saint Shanks is perceived as good but is secretly the villain, and Oda is building up to this idea more and more every single chapter.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

King Harald was being manipulated by the Sun that Mother Carmel created


Memes aside, he’s probably just Dumb AF and thought “our holy woman preached diplomacy! I’ll try to make peace with the World government in her honor!”

 

[kumae]

He wanted to become a holy knights

 

[ShinichiMugi]

He wanted to become a holy knights

It could be altough it would be maybe too similar as plot twist as York wanting to become a Celestial Dragon maybe

 

[MonsterKaido]

Either harald was in cahoots with HKs or was used by HKs.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Harald was never nice guy he let Mother caramel run her operations with his blessings .

This guy wanted to sell his own country to WG until Loki made intervention no wonder he had prophecy of his own death . This guy was evil straight to go he just manipulated himself as Good king to make Elbaf weak from inside .

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Elbaph is a big subversion. Loki is perceived as evil but is secretly the hero, Saint Shanks is perceived as good but is secretly the villain, and Oda is building up to this idea more and more every single chapter.

Well we have Evil twin now don’t think Shanks is evil .

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

I have a theory about why Harald died. I originally thought he was a wolf in sheep's clothing, and the current narrative paints him as the Oda standard of the pacifist Saint-King like Cobra and Riku. But it's pretty likely he was the King when Carmel set up shop, and he probably got a lot of misinformation from her, right?

So, with a distorted view of what the WG truly was, thanks to her, maybe he thought the linchpin to make Elbaf join the WG was to send Loki off to become a Marine? (Or Cipher Pol/Holy Knight/Etc.) And Loki responded...poorly.

But did Loki kill his father? The Abyss Pentagram tells us there's something more to this story. Could a WG representative took advantage of the chaos of Loki going nuts...and decided to make the most of it by killing Harald and pinning it on Loki? With their beloved king martyred, his philosophy becomes stronger...and so does the chance the WG can seize Elbaf in due time.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Elbaph is a big subversion. Loki is perceived as evil but is secretly the hero, Saint Shanks is perceived as good but is secretly the villain, and Oda is building up to this idea more and more every single chapter.

Have you not been embarrassed multiple times already? We all know this is ending up with you writing an essay about how oda is a bad writer for not making your wet dreams come true