General & Others King is the perfect Right hand man for Kaido

#21
The only thing King has over Queen is his name.
They both displayed the same authority, Queen is just a character that exaggerate his reactions


I don't understand this necessity to find a RHM, a VC or a first mate in every single crew.
The only ones who showed this kind of roles are Ben Beckman and Rayleigh.
Even Katakuri, the strongest minister of the BMP, has no more authority than Perospero.

Marco, who was pointed out by the Gorosei as the new leader of the WBP, showed no more strength or authority than Jaws.

Shiliew and King are just hyped because it's probable that they are going to fight Zoro
You really do not understand it :seriously:
 
#22
The only thing King has over Queen is his name.
They both displayed the same authority, Queen is just a character that exaggerate his reactions


I don't understand this necessity to find a RHM, a VC or a first mate in every single crew.
The only ones who showed this kind of roles are Ben Beckman and Rayleigh.
Even Katakuri, the strongest minister of the BMP, has no more authority than Perospero.

Marco, who was pointed out by the Gorosei as the new leader of the WBP, showed no more strength or authority than Jaws.

Shiliew and King are just hyped because it's probable that they are going to fight Zoro
it's good to know i'm not the only one
 

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#23
Nope
King has no authority and power over Queen. He doesnt even have authority over flyers !

Whatever you guys are writing mere wishes.
Kaido doesn't have RH!

His secretary is the squirrel gi
His importan figure is Yamato
His 3 trusted members are Calamities

For the love of God Usopp, This is pirates we're talking about; there will always be rebels who doesn't like following rules no matter what; just because some choose not to follow orders doesn't mean a hierarchy does not exist. If the all stars are equal in authority we wouldn't be seeing King and Queen scolding Jack for his failures. And King wouldn't be sticking his nose in Queen's business if it's of no concern to him. Only Sasaki and Who's who do not respond to King's summon so the rest of F6 heed his call which means he has authority over them. Only some of them do not obey the orders they're supposed to obey.

Yes, Kaido doesn't have a RHM, No Emperor other than Shanks has a RHM in their crew for that matter. It's always a bunch of strong looking dudes sharing the same title/rank. The Sweet Generals and WB Commanders share the same rank too. Even you cannot deny that Katakuri and Marco hold certain degree of authority over their respective crews. The common theme Oda has been following so far is, an unspoken hierarchy exists in all Yonko crews regardless of how their ranking system works.
 
#29
That was a mistranslation. Refer to the rest of the thread

Katakuri was also JUST a sweet general yet when the topic of replacing big mom comes up, ITS IMMEDIATELY brought to Katakuri

Oda confirmed the Whitebeard commander's hold no formal authority over the commanders of other divisions. Like Marco COULD NOT OFFICIALLY order Ace to do anything yet in the war, Marco was ordering everyone around BECAUSE HE WAS THE STRONGEST. And when the Gorosei are deciding who will be the next Yonkou its Marco considered

See how that works? The strongest person naturally demands more respect even if they aren't OFFICIALLY given a title of it.

If Kaido dies, either the beast pirates get obliterated from within OR KING TAKES OVER. Meaning king is the right hand man. Whether officially or not
no, king can't take over the beast pirate when kaido js defeated, he can't even get respect from the flying 6, how do you even expect him to lead the beast pirate?:feelscryingman:
 
#31
no, king can't take over the beast pirate when kaido js defeated, he can't even get respect from the flying 6, how do you even expect him to lead the beast pirate?:feelscryingman:
Don't you know how Kaido recruits people? He beat the shit out of Kid and Hawkins got so scared he chose to follow them

The strong live and the weak die.

King is the strongest he beats the shit out of everyone else until they either die or fall in line
 
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Jo_Ndule

#32
The only thing King has over Queen is his name.
They both displayed the same authority, Queen is just a character that exaggerate his reactions


I don't understand this necessity to find a RHM, a VC or a first mate in every single crew.
The only ones who showed this kind of roles are Ben Beckman and Rayleigh.
Even Katakuri, the strongest minister of the BMP, has no more authority than Perospero.

Marco, who was pointed out by the Gorosei as the new leader of the WBP, showed no more strength or authority than Jaws.

Shiliew and King are just hyped because it's probable that they are going to fight Zoro
Pero despite being older, still listens to kaya and ask him for next plans

But anyway, I agree with the rest
 
J

Jo_Ndule

#33
For the love of God Usopp, This is pirates we're talking about; there will always be rebels who doesn't like following rules no matter what; just because some choose not to follow orders doesn't mean a hierarchy does not exist. If the all stars are equal in authority we wouldn't be seeing King and Queen scolding Jack for his failures. And King wouldn't be sticking his nose in Queen's business if it's of no concern to him. Only Sasaki and Who's who do not respond to King's summon so the rest of F6 heed his call which means he has authority over them. Only some of them do not obey the orders they're supposed to obey.

Yes, Kaido doesn't have a RHM, No Emperor other than Shanks has a RHM in their crew for that matter. It's always a bunch of strong looking dudes sharing the same title/rank. The Sweet Generals and WB Commanders share the same rank too. Even you cannot deny that Katakuri and Marco hold certain degree of authority over their respective crews. The common theme Oda has been following so far is, an unspoken hierarchy exists in all Yonko crews regardless of how their ranking system works.
King isnt even highlighted as ultimate man
The dude got disrespected ike a joke by Sasaki and WhoWho
Sasaki doesnt even deem hi worthy to drink with! That's just a low ball for King
They dont care about him

Also Who even allows a challnge to replace his RH? Or strongest commander easily ?
Kaido doesnt seem to exclude King from the challenge.

Kata has ultimate authority and power over any BMP, even Pero being older still listen to Kata.

Marco even tho he never ordered Jozu, he still left WBP.

King wasnt portrayed like that.
Queen too orders the other flyers and scolds Jack

King and queen , both can not order every flyer..both have limited authority which they can only gain access if they use Kaido name!

It's not even about being officially RH, King isnt undisputed number 2 under Kaido.
 
#35
I think kaido has no right hand. the 3 calamities shares same rank but king stand atop 3 of them even without manga telling us we already know that his 'king' is second after kaido in the crew since BP's theme is card name(if we count out ace/yamato) also means he is kaido's strongest member because of his name itself.
but in authority he stands equal to other calamities with exception of seniority like his relation with Jack.
 
#38
no, king can't take over the beast pirate when kaido js defeated, he can't even get respect from the flying 6, how do you even expect him to lead the beast pirate?:feelscryingman:
That's cause flying sixers were forced into working for Kaido cause of his strength and personality, same as Hawkins, even Mingo was sweating at the thought of him, Meme pirates have a different dynamic, if not for them Meme would self distruct and eat her own people, it's her children & Streussen who hold the crew together, also, they are related to each other.
 
#39
Like this :


Once their asses get destroyed, they will follow him like a bitches they are.
I'm sure king can defeat them 1v1, but the gap in strength between him and the flying 6 in not big enough that they'll listen to whatever king told them to, unlike kaido who has clear superiority in strength over the flying 6.
that's why the flying 6 will gladly listen to kaido,heck even they want to share a drink with kaido while they do not even respect king:feelscryingman:
 
#40
That's cause flying sixers were forced into working for Kaido cause of his strength and personality, same as Hawkins, even Mingo was sweating at the thought of him, Meme pirates have a different dynamic, if not for them Meme would self distruct and eat her own people, it's her children & Streussen who hold the crew together, also, they are related to each other.
that's the point, if there's no one like kaido who has the superiority in strength to the flying 6 in the beast pirates, the crew will turn into chaos, no one will listen to king besides some fodder, that's why king will never be able to take over the beast pirate, he just not strong enough like kaido to lead all the ex captain with strength alone:feelscryingman:
 
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