Powers & Abilities King, the Snuffed Wildfire?

[PortgasDMor]

Perhaps King's flames are connected to his mental state of mind? When he knew he was protected by the stongest man in the world, he was confident, cocky even, and never lost a battle in more than 30 years. His fire was a reflection of this: strong, dense almost like magma.
Now even before Ryokugyu came, King was in a totally different mental state. He lost, for the first time in decades, lost his wing, and most importantly, lost his captain. Kaido was everything to King. He never cared about any other Beast Pirates member. He was not only loyal to Kaido, he trusted and believed in him. He even gave up his own dreams to fulfill Kaido's. And now Kaido is dead, and all he's left with is this annoying Queen, who also lost. King is in mourning, he's grieving. He's lost everything. What kind of fire would you expect to burn in his veins in such a state? If he managed to light any before what Oda showed us, it was hardly more than a spark.

 

[sanjikun]

King is just as trash as Queen since introduction

You guys that hyped him because zolo

This. It was always cringe as fuck. The guy had like no feats. Just fake hype like Jack.

Zoro's biggest enemy wasn't even King. It was Enma.

It's just Aramaki hype. King and Queen were injured but they're not weak for getting whooped by an Admiral, that's just a reflection of the Admiral's strength.

They're weak for making him not even blink an eye.

 

[JoNdule]

Enma gave zoro more fight than King lol
It was basically 2v1

 

[Aknolagon]

I think probably because oda wants to reveal those Lunarian's stuffs after.
Usually when we don't have enough informations, it comes latter. I mean at this point, we don't even know if King can fly or not. Manga it never showed and anime is showing king can fly and levitate lol.

 

[Ballel]

Haki vines don’t burn

First it was black blade based on fan coloring and now it's Haki vines

 

[Nestor]

Usually when we don't have enough informations, it comes latter

Or is Oda just forgetting about it

 

[Ballel]

Or is Oda just forgetting about it

As always

 

[Steven]

As always

Im still waiting to hear why Kaido wanted to die,but i will never getting an answer

 

[Finalbeta]

Oda doesn't care about Wing anymore

 

[Nestor]

anymore

Like he took care of him in the past :risitasad:

 

[Finalbeta]

Like he took care of him in the past :risitasad:

At least kinda

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Im still waiting to hear why Kaido wanted to die,but i will never getting an answer

(I'm confident about the speculation below, so don't read if you don't want potential spoilers for Kaido's backstory)

Kaido wanted to die because he realized he couldn't be Joy Boy, and that the man who would become Joy Boy was the man who could defeat/kill him. Kaido, IMO, is a descendant of the original Joy Boy, an Oni (with Onigashmia's skull being Joy Boy's skull)

Kai D. Oni found out about his lineage from Rocks, and honestly believed he was the only one who could change the world, hence his optimism to King after breaking him out ("I'm the only one who can change it!"). It was only after meeting King, and learning more about the Ancient History, that Kaido realized he could not become Joy Boy. No. According to King's knowledge, Kaido was the one JOY BOY WAS MEANT TO DEFEAT

Joy Boy was a liberator, while Kaido was a violent destroyer of nations and soldiers. So, Kaido realized the easiest way to lure out Joy Boy was to create the necessary conditions for his return.

An enslaved nation full of starving, dying, miserable, hopeless people: the perfect bait to bring in the liberator, Joy Boy. Kaido has been using Wano as a honeytrap for years, trying to lure the next Joy Boy to the country so he could be defeated. This is why Kaido doesn't kill: he isn't trying to destroy people's Wills for no reason. He wants Luffy to get up and beat him. Kaido WANTED Luffy to be Joy Boy, he just didn't think Luffy could at the beginning of Wano.

This entire time, Kaido has been trying to find the one person strong enough to overcome his Will, to overcome his tyranny, and become the true liberator, Joy Boy. Kaido didn't want to "die", so much as he wanted Joy Boy to kill him. I think part of Kaido honestly believed Ace WAS Joy Boy due to his connections to Roger/Yamato, and just fell off the wagon hard when Ace died.

 

[Tomu]

Im still waiting to hear why Kaido wanted to die,but i will never getting an answer

I suspect when we get a big Garp (and possibly Dragon?) flashback, maybe even a Shanks flashback it will cover the events of God Valley and we'll learn a lot more about every member of the Rox Pirates - Kaido's suicide is most likely centered around the fact he hates the world and doesn't think life is worth living (heavily implied by the flashback we got a few chapters ago)

I've lost all faith in Queen taking anything in this Manga seriously, oi. But, with King, I'm honestly perplexed. Even if he is getting attacked... why isn't he using his flames? Wouldn't it make sense to Flameo Hotman, when you're... uh... getting attacked by vines?

My first thought was "Oh, King is probably just too weak/getting his nutrients drained, but he needs to be in much better shape than Queen. Then, something struck me.

What if King's flames were formed from his wings? What if King needs BOTH wings to use his fire abilities? What if Zoro actually permanently crippled King, by cutting his wing off?

Because if King is still able to use his flames, then boy are the Beast Pirates scrub hours. You can't even light some vines on fire? Nika help us.

:king:

Weirdly fire is actually highly ineffective against some plants - forest fires for example take DAYS, sometimes WEEKs to become seriously damaging and out of control and they are almost non-existent in higher humidity climates.

You gotta remember the key thing with the Admirals' powers is scale.
Borsalino destroying Yarukiman groves with ease. Kuzan freezing entire oceans. Sakazuki raining magma across an entire bay. Issho elevating an entire warzone's worth of rubble like it's nothing. What we've seen from Ryokugyu is nothing compared to what is to come in future and I say that with confidence. Using vines from just one hand he overran the entirety of Udon prison. Imagine what he could do if he gets serious. Measly fires would be powerless against him - to be honest I doubt even the Mera Mera no Mi would do much at all (given Ryokugyu fought Sabo and has no injuries at all that only backs up my point).

this has nothing to do with Kings strength and everything to do with Aramakis strength - King and Queen are just fodder to top tiers and that’s okay

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

First it was black blade based on fan coloring and now it's Haki vines

The Black Blade I can somewhat see, since Green Bull is a Swordsman, and Fujitora is CoO based, so, it makes sense for Ryokugyu to be a master of CoA. Like, it's a stretch, but it's a total-Oda-troll move to leave us arguing about a black blade that could just be a wooden sword.

Haki vines... plz, no, not the Haki vines. Halp. Anything but the Haki vines.

 

[kurwa]

King doesn't have his lunarian wings in his full zoan and hybrid yet he still can use fire in those modes

You are just making up headcanon because it finally hit you that King & Queen are close in power. They are literally inseparable.
Oda pairs them more than a set of twins

 

[LordofCinder]

Fire is a jobber element in One Piece, accessible by almost anyone.
100% chance that Aramaki has plants with countermeasures against fire.

 

[Finalbeta]

I think it's a good thing at least no genocide was committed