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May be a slightly unpopular opinion, but I think Current Yotanwa is the second most powerful duelist in Qin
She gotta be. She has so much hype as a fighter.

Maybe Tou is hiding the skills
I think Shin & Ouhon beat her, especially Ouhon
Tou and SHK more likely than not also stronger imo
I have both still losing to her. I'm not sure when I believe the two will have the weight to beat her. YTW should have disgusting amounts of weight.
 

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Kanmei and Kyoukai had a baby. The result? The great dumpling of the Heavens whom even Kyourei salutes in sheer admiration:


Notice how Hara has Gakuhaku Kou talk about the greater universe:


In Zhao there are the Three Great Heavens, but the Universe transcends even the Heavens. Gakuhaku Kou is without a doubt Zhao’s Great Universe, the strongest general in the history of Zhao and China
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May be a slightly unpopular opinion, but I think Current Yotanwa is the second most powerful duelist in Qin
In terms of strongest
1. Mou Bu
2. Shin
3. Kyou Kai
4. Tou
5. Yo Tan Wa

In terms of most skilled
1. Kyou Kai
2. Tou
3. Mou Bu
4. Shin
5. Yo Tan Wa
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I think Shin & Ouhon beat her, especially Ouhon
Tou and SHK more likely than not also stronger imo
I have both still losing to her. I'm not sure when I believe the two will have the weight to beat her. YTW should have disgusting amounts of weight.
Shin would win because of plot armor

Shouheikun does have a fair chance, can't believe I forgot about him.

I'll have to see better feats from Tou first
Shin absolutely dominates YTW and SHK, and decisively beats Tou at this point without alpha.

Ou Hon destroys SHK, wins an extremely difficult battle against Tou, and comes up short in a tough loss against YTW (weight).

Shin's only competition within Qin are Kyou Kai and Mou Bu.
 
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When it comes to skill, he's in Moubu's tier more or less
Based on what, where he was relative to Mou Bu when they were children?

Does SHK strike you as a person with a lot of time to devote to his martial abilities in addition to his duties as a minister, Head of Military Affairs and overseeing an academy for strategy?

As for weight, you can expect SHK to be among the top of the verse
Again, based on what?

What would the sum of his weight be made of?

Better yet, how do you even begin to assume his weight would be comparable that of true Great Generals of the Heavens who carry with them the legacy of countless friends, allies and adversaries?

I get that you like SHK, but be realistic for a second here. The guy chose a different path in life many years ago. Kai Oku boasting of his lord's talent and pedigree shouldn't be taken for gospel just because he professes it. Story is what you're shown, not what you're told.

You've been told a great many things about SHK. No one could reasonably argue they have shown things to have cause in claiming what you claim.
 
How come
Though his strength is nowhere near current Moubu, we still know SHK ain't no chump in that category
When it comes to skill, he's in Moubu's tier more or less
As for weight, you can expect SHK to be among the top of the verse

Hara was direct with this portrayal
It's a fake hype. I don't buy it.

Shouheikun is a solid fighter, but he's nowhere near Moubu, he's just a tricky and smart duelist that somewhat lacks in other aspects. The prequel special chapter about his childhood shows that he "defeated" Moubu by attacking him when he was distracted. And if we consider it canon then his "stronger then Moubu" rumor is nothing but fake news. He actually did something similar against Wa Tegi. Made a faint and attacked his arm while he didn't expect it. A method like this might work against more brutish opponents, but against more technical fighters like Ouhon or Yotanwa he will get slaughtered.

In the end Shouheikun is a guy that spends most of his time in the palace. Someone like that being near Moubu tier warrior doesn't make much sense.
 
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I know we rightfully give credit to Akou holding out on Gakushou and Fuon, but bro....



This is just on a completely different realm of insanity. I'm tempted to just consider this an inconsistency in the power scaling cause of how unreasonably absurd this feat and the implications it has when you consider the hype given to Ranbihaku as an individual lol.

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Lee Ba Shou

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I know we rightfully give credit to Akou holding out on Gakushou and Fuon, but bro....



This is just on a completely different realm of insanity. I'm tempted to just consider this an inconsistency in the power scaling cause of how unreasonably absurd this feat and the implications it has when you consider the hype given to Ranbihaku as an individual lol.

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I think Shukai Gyou’Un >= Shukai Bananji ~ Juukou Ranbihaku. So Akou’s feat was definitely better imo but Sento’Un is surely a freak.
 

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I think Shukai Gyou’Un >= Shukai Bananji ~ Juukou Ranbihaku. So Akou’s feat was definitely better imo but Sento’Un is surely a freak.
You can consider Akou opponents more impressive overall
But Sento Un was soooo casual doing it while Akou suffered a lot.

So Sento feat is better

and I agree it almost feels like an inconsistency how easily he dealt with them
 
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