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Lee Ba Shou

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You can consider Akou opponents more impressive overall
But Sento Un was soooo casual doing it while Akou suffered a lot.

So Sento feat is better

and I agree it almost feels like an inconsistency how easily he dealt with them
Well Rokuomi fans will be mad but he is basically a non factor here, straight up. Sento’Un saying he could’ve been a 1000 man Chu commander and never recanting that statement is confirmation enough. We were told that Heavenly King level generals have skills, and I quote, “miles ahead of Ouki’s vassals” (Rokuomi) and Ranbihaku is basically Heavenly King level. It was basically Sento’Un vs Ranbihaku and a non-factor. Impressive to be sure but idk, Rokuomi never impressed me. Definitely not weak but nowhere near Ranbihaku.

Meanwhile Akou fought two Ranbihaku level dudes at the same time. He lost yes, but when you realize that all Sento’Un really did was 1v1 Ranbihaku while slightly distracted, and yeah Akou’s feat was just better. @SakazOuki
 
How in the world can you think that Akou stalling Bananji and Gyou'Un for a couple seconds after literally dying to them in a few exchanges is better than Sento'Un schooling Rokuoumi and Ranbihaku the man that was greatly hyped by Tou.

Sento'Un is a cringe clown with ass design but he's clearly stronger than any Zhao general at Shukai plains which checks out with the earlier portrayal and hype of Chu's generals.
 
Sento'Un is a cringe clown with ass design but he's clearly stronger than any Zhao general at Shukai plains which checks out with the earlier portrayal and hype of Chu's generals.
Yeah. Gyou’Un and Bananji are both great fighters but either of them would get defeated by Sento'Un. That man is a freak, remember him also saying that he constantly competes against Man'U? Sento'Un wanted Moubu's head too. Lol.

In a battle with armies, Gyou’Un probably wins. I say "probably" because with Sento'Un being an ex Great General of a former state, I wouldn't put it past him to have/come up with a way to deal with Gyou’Un's warfare.
 
Yeah. Gyou’Un and Bananji are both great fighters but either of them would get defeated by Sento'Un. That man is a freak, remember him also saying that he constantly competes against Man'U? Sento'Un wanted Moubu's head too. Lol.

In a battle with armies, Gyou’Un probably wins. I say "probably" because with Sento'Un being an ex Great General of a former state, I wouldn't put it past him to have/come up with a way to deal with Gyou’Un's warfare.
And he had every right to say that he wants to go after Moubu with a performance like that.
Fighting off even any general next to Ranbihaku of all people is impressive but it being the first of the Ouki army? And winning that 2v1?? Bonkers.



Well Rokuomi fans will be mad but he is basically a non factor here, straight up. Sento’Un saying he could’ve been a 1000 man Chu commander and never recanting that statement is confirmation enough. We were told that Heavenly King level generals have skills, and I quote, “miles ahead of Ouki’s vassals” (Rokuomi) and Ranbihaku is basically Heavenly King level. It was basically Sento’Un vs Ranbihaku and a non-factor. Impressive to be sure but idk, Rokuomi never impressed me. Definitely not weak but nowhere near Ranbihaku.

Meanwhile Akou fought two Ranbihaku level dudes at the same time. He lost yes, but when you realize that all Sento’Un really did was 1v1 Ranbihaku while slightly distracted, and yeah Akou’s feat was just better. @SakazOuki
I never had a high opinion of Rokuoumi but he's clearly decently strong and portrayed as a handful for most High tier generals but to say he's a non factor in a 2v1 with Ranbihaku?

Remember the 2v1 advantage helped Fuuon work Akou's butt even though he would get crushed 1v1.

And the major difference was that Sento'Un was winning or at the very least dominating while Akou would've died after a few exchanges.
 
i dont think he can be replaced that easily, only riboku seems to have the ability to pull gg level dudes out of his ass
With how many dudes that have randomly showed up in Zhao so far i'm sure other states will get some Gg level dudes from somewhere
We just got 4 former gg's in one Chu castle so i'm sure Yan and Wei will get their fair share.
 

Lee Ba Shou

Conqueror of the Stars
I never had a high opinion of Rokuoumi but he's clearly decently strong and portrayed as a handful for most High tier generals but to say he's a non factor in a 2v1 with Ranbihaku?
The gap between Rokuomi and Ranbihaku is much bigger than the gap between Rokuomi and Heki imo. I never had a super high opinion of Ouki’s vassals. They are basically strong generals while the Heavenly Kings are GG level.
 
The gap between Rokuomi and Ranbihaku is much bigger than the gap between Rokuomi and Heki imo. I never had a super high opinion of Ouki’s vassals. They are basically strong generals while the Heavenly Kings are GG level.
Lmao. That's too much. The Ouki army is among the weakest compared to Qin's other armies but that's because they had Tou who actually was the No.1 general of Qin (next to Ouki) without anyone knowing.

Both Gakushou and Fuuon are weaker than Akou. Gakushou probably by a little and Fuuon by a lot but a 2v1 even allowed Fuuon to look impressive so if you apply the same to Sento'Un's fight it was super impressive and one of the craziest feats actually.
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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Sentou'un is a top tier for sure

His feat is genuinely absurd. He's pretty similar to Man'U, which should be huge hype too

I was considering making a thread on his power
 
I know we rightfully give credit to Akou holding out on Gakushou and Fuon, but bro....



This is just on a completely different realm of insanity. I'm tempted to just consider this an inconsistency in the power scaling cause of how unreasonably absurd this feat and the implications it has when you consider the hype given to Ranbihaku as an individual lol.

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Hara was on crack writing Juuko is all
 

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With how many dudes that have randomly showed up in Zhao so far i'm sure other states will get some Gg level dudes from somewhere
We just got 4 former gg's in one Chu castle so i'm sure Yan and Wei will get their fair share.
it's crazy how ou sen is the guy who is known for recruiting talented individuals and yet all his subordinates looks like complete fodder, while riboku got an endless supply of super strong guys under him
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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What a missed opportunity it was to not take Gai Mou to fight Chu during the Qin and Wei vs Chu battle
Man'U would school him worse than he schooled Moubu lol
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I see some serious underestimation of Rokuomi here
How do you think he compares to Ousen's commanders(not including Gigakou)?
 

Lee Ba Shou

Conqueror of the Stars
Lmao. That's too much. The Ouki army is among the weakest compared to Qin's other armies but that's because they had Tou who actually was the No.1 general of Qin (next to Ouki) without anyone knowing.
Lmfao, we going at it in two threads it seems. Kingdom is a drug and we can’t get enough.

Anyway, no it’s not too much imo. Ouki’s vassals are among the weakest 6GG/3GH vassals we’ve ever seen. Who among the Qin 6 we’ve seen has weaker vassals than Ouki? Kanki maybe? Moubu? I doubt it as Moubu’s generals fought with Chu generals at Coalition.

Every 3GH/6GG has much better vassals than Ouki. Ouki had Tou and he even had Kyou for a while so he’s had some great vassals But Rokuomi and co. Ain’t it. Like I said I’d favor Ouki’s guys over Shukai Heki or like Mougou’s generals Eibei and Domon or whatever…but Ouki’s vassals are the weakest we’ve seen out of the Qin6/Zhao 3.

Both Gakushou and Fuuon are weaker than Akou. Gakushou probably by a little and Fuuon by a lot but a 2v1 even allowed Fuuon to look impressive so if you apply the same to Sento'Un's fight it was super impressive and one of the craziest feats actually.
I’m not so sure Gakushou is weaker than Akou. Shibashou’s vassals are crazy. Fuu’On maybe.

But you’re getting distracted. I never said Akou > Sento’Un, we’re just discussing the Gyou’Un/Bananji feat vs the Ranbihaku/Rokuomi feat.

Gyou’Un and Bananji are both the real deal, there’s no room to doubt either of them as warriors. Ranbihaku is the real deal too, I don’t think you can doubt him. Rokuomi? Hell no lol. Sento’Un calling him a Chu 1,000 man commander was the end of me giving Rokuomi the benefit of the doubt. Maybe at EOS Rokuomi might sniff Heavenly King level but definitely not right now, he’s nowhere near that level still.
 
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