Powers & Abilities Kirin DF vs Kanjuro DF

[RayanOO]

Which one is the best between both of them ?

Both can create monsters, food, or almost anything

discuss

@Ven437 @nik87 @moreha9685 @MonsterKaido @ZenZu @Buusatan94 etc etc

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kirin's is better imo.

 

[nik87]

I see no difference between their creations so far.
Zoan is obviously better but the creations so far seem equally bad.

 

[RayanOO]

I see no difference between their creations so far.
Zoan is obviously better but the creations so far seem equally bad.

Kanjuro DF is better because he can create things on his own without outside help / people

And his food taste bad but are fulfilling the stomac opposite to Kirin

Kirin is better because he can exploit people fear without prior knowledge
And let’s see if his monsters are strong depending on the « level » of fear the person has

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Kirin can’t really « choose » what he wants to manifest

if I dream about pepper and he wants salt he is fucked

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Kirin and it is not even close.
Look how many monsters Kirin df created, huge large monsters big like Pica mountain golem. Each of them has their own ability...

Kanjuro df is a joke compared to Kirin df.

 

[RayanOO]

Kirin and it is not even close.
Look how many monsters Kirin df created, huge large monsters big like Pica mountain golem. Each of them has their own ability...

Kanjuro df is a joke compared to Kirin df.

What prevents Kanjuro DF in theory from drawing that many monsters and conjuring them ?

and Kanjuro created this already :

 

[NikaInParis]

Kirin can put you to sleep

 

[Aster]

Kanjuros df is better because of the range of what he can draw

 

[RayanOO]

Kirin can put you to sleep

If Kirin can put himself asleep and can conjure things he is dreaming about himself then yeah he would definitely be above Kanjuros one

But for now I feel Kanjuro one is more versatile

but yeah putting your opponent into sleeping is deadly fighting wise

 

[moreha9685]

What prevents Kanjuro DF in theory from drawing that many monsters and conjuring them ?

and Kanjuro created this already :

I agree with you that we haven't been shown a limit on Kanjuro's ability, so in theory he could draw just as many monsters as Kirin has conjured.

The only thing to point out is that the Kazenbo is an exception that shouldn't be used in this comparison, because it wasn't drawn by Kanjuro: that is the devil itself from his DF, fueled by a dying Kanjuro's rage to destroy everything.

 

[Blahmigooo]

It depends on the strength and capabilities of the drawn creature
Supposed Kanjuro draw Kaido, would the strength of the drawn Kaido be just a fodder lvl strong or just be based on the strength of the DF user Kanjuro himself ??
We don't have enough evidence, the strongest character he drew is Oden, and he lacks good feats (though he killed Shutenmaru with bombs)
The dream monster doesn't have good feats either, just the jobber giant making them look good.
Kanjuro could have created the same giant monster too

But ig the disadvantage would be Kanjuro would need time to draw such gigantic monster where Kirin could make them spawn several of them at a time..
Same disadvantage for Kirin would be, you need to depend on ppl dream
So at the end I'd choose Kanjuro if the strength of the drawing isn't necessarily weaker than the same type of characters spawn by Kirin

 

[moreha9685]

It depends on the strength and capabilities of the drawn creature
Supposed Kanjuro draw Kaido, would the strength of the drawn Kaido be just a fodder lvl strong or just be based on the strength of the DF user Kanjuro himself ??

IMO, drawn Kaido would be as strong as a man his size would be IRL, no DF dragon scales, no haki. So he'd be a glorified gym dude.
Same as Kirin's monsters appear to be: other than having gigantic bodies, they possess no special abilities. Gravity is all they have going on for themselves.

 

[RayanOO]

Supposed Kanjuro draw Kaido, would the strength of the drawn Kaido be just a fodder lvl strong or just be based on the strength of the DF user Kanjuro himself ??

That’s the thing that can put Kirin power decisively above Kanjuro : if his monsters strength are directly fueled by people fear or if the more you fear something or the way you are dreaming things that can make the monsters stronger

For exemple if Sanji fears Evil dark hair Sanji, maybe because Sanji imagine this evil alter ego strong he will be conjured by Kirin as strong etc

let’s see the limit of Kirin powers

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

What prevents Kanjuro DF in theory from drawing that many monsters and conjuring them ?

and Kanjuro created this already :

That was his ultimate move.
Compare that shit to this rayan, you think it is even close?

 

[RayanOO]

That was his ultimate move.
Compare that shit to this rayan, you think it is even close?

Killingam is > Kanjuro yeah sure

But I’m talking about their DF powers

and we know :
- Kanjuro DF can indeed create big monsters or Kazenbo

he can create multiple monsters at the same time :

Kanjuro can also create things like that

in theory I don’t see why he couldn’t draw multiple 20m monsters if he draws them

 

[Buusatan94]

Kirin's df is more OP but Kanjuro's df is better for creativity and could surpass Kirin in power if used to its full potential with an extremely creative mind.

 

[Jailer]

Kirin, but at the end of the day it should depend on the user

It was already established by Lucci and Crocodile when they said any power can be trained and refined further

 

[trav]

Konjuros always works.
Killings needs fodder.

If you only compare that one aspect than Kanjuros wins.
Zoans have other perks too though.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I pray that Kirin doesn't pull whatever's from my dream is.

 

[AER15]

Killingham can put people to sleep and they don't even wake up when hurt
we might be witnessing Sugar levels of broken
his devil fruit is much stronger