Current Events Kizaru doesnt stand a chance

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#21
Kaido was a beast
But to be absolutely fair Luffy beat Kaido after a break and a whole modge podge of fellas beatin on the fool while he's carrying an island at the same time.

I think if we consider fresh Kaido vs fresh G5 Luffy will spell out a whole new outcome

I think ol' Kizaru will give Mr. MC a bit of trouble
 
#25
Luffy beat Kaido; Kizaru has no conceivable way of threatening Luffy. Odds are he gets stomped into oblivion or escapes at the last minute by the BBP distracting Luffy while he's mercilessly beating Kizaru's head in.
Yes, those who think he has any chance needs to re read the end of Kaido vs Luffy where Kaido comments on how absurd Luffy's power is and talks how he effortlessly defenss himself with AdvCoC and COA and tells that Haki >> all so Logia awakening alone won't do shit and there is no haki of Kizaru that is superior to Luffy. Its Borsalinover.
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Manga often puts Admirals along with Emperors. No one can mid diff any of them.
Lol. Only in your headcannon manga. Last time manga compared Admiral vs Yonko, a Yonko made an admiral run away scared by wifi CoC so stop the cap.
 
#26
I'm so ready for people to start malding and scream bad writing when Luffy doesn't neg diff Kizaru. And this is coming from a Luffy fan.

I agree Luffy shouldn't be treated as the underdog after the yonko title, but a neg diff with an admiral ain't it?
Yeah, I didn't think there were this much flat-earthers lol.

I can already see the meltdown when Kizaru, while losing, give Luffy a hell of a fight.
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Lol. Only in your headcannon manga. Last time manga compared Admiral vs Yonko, a Yonko made an admiral run away scared by wifi CoC so stop the cap.
lol.

Better reread before the hard wake up lol.
 
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#27
Luffy say me and my crew are 100x stronger so I expect the fight to be a flexing, kizaru will still give him trouble with awakening but overrall he will stomp. I also expect zoro vs kizaru at some point even if just a clash to add more credit to what luffy say about the crew.
 
#30
Hmm. Oda in general initially portrays luffy as an underdog. Now this maybe a special case due to narrative and luffy dominates Kizaru but it still will be balanced fight.

Kizaru can still have logia awakening up his sleeve which was highlighted recently by vegapunk.
Yeah, but I amazed about how hard this nonsense goes. The Op literally said
he gets stomped into oblivion or escapes at the last minute by the BBP distracting Luffy while he's mercilessly beating Kizaru's head in.
Lol, this Is really something. Seems almost like Kizaru has done somethig ti his family.
 
#31
I'm so ready for people to start malding and scream bad writing when Luffy doesn't neg diff Kizaru. And this is coming from a Luffy fan.

I agree Luffy shouldn't be treated as the underdog after the yonko title, but a neg diff with an admiral ain't it.
This is what happens when you get blinded by agenda and doesn't take a look at the narrative.
Even without powerscaling I knew Luffy vs Kizaru was going to happen instead of Saturn vs Luffy/Zoro vs Kizaru/Zoro/Sanji vs Kizaru due to the narrative in Dressrosa about how Luffy had to surpass the emperors and admirals to surpass Roger's legend, which made anybody but him in the crew being the first to defeat an admiral impossible. You don't need powerscaling to understand that.


Even ignoring all the consequences it would have for the story Kizaru getting dfeated handidly will not happen for the simple reason Oda has been starting to significantly amp the tension and drama, starting with Robin being wounded, the reveal that Lucci is feeding the marine informations, Luffy shocked face at the power he felt last chapter, continuing with two allies getting brutally defeated (Sentoumaru and Stussy), Kizaru's sinister look while taking about Vegapunk assassination, the Mark 3 (much, much more advanced models of PX) going back in the hands of the Marine and Lucci's "betrayal". Add that to the fact the VAs and thousand of dozens of soliders are getting to land, that Blackbeard Pirares still haven't made their move and it's obvious Oda won't immediately defuse the situation by ridiculing the strongest antagonist (second strongest at very worst for gorosei wankers) on Egghead.
Add that to the fact Luffy already hd his "flex his power" fight of the arc against Lucci.
Add that to the fact it would completely make a mockery of Sentoumaru's sacrifice as he could just have let Kizaru enter and let Luffy neg him (imagine Luffy beating Kaido 2 chapters after scabbards risked their life fighting him lol)


What's funny is that the Sabaody narrative and proving that Luffy isn't an underdog anymore would still be respected by him beating an admiral high/extreme diff in 1 vs 1 without assist. Some ppl just want to see Kizaru get folded to satisfy their agenda, it has nothing to do with "narrative".
 
#33
Kizaru wont be a low-diff per se. It will either Godfy's win mid-high diff or the fight will be inconclusive as strawhats priority is to save vegapunk. Nevertheless kizaru wont have anything to decide here on his own terms.
 
#35
It's basic storytelling. Kizaru is serious and angry now even though he's usually nonchalant.

And given how Luffy is being underestimated. It's pretty obvious Kizaru loses.
 
#36
I'm so ready for people to start malding and scream bad writing when Luffy doesn't neg diff Kizaru. And this is coming from a Luffy fan.

I agree Luffy shouldn't be treated as the underdog after the yonko title, but a neg diff with an admiral ain't it.
no sane person expects fluffy to low or even neg diff an admiral
 
#40
Luffy beat Kaido; Kizaru has no conceivable way of threatening Luffy. Odds are he gets stomped into oblivion or escapes at the last minute by the BBP distracting Luffy while he's mercilessly beating Kizaru's head in.
You’re looking at things too black and white. Kizaru and Kaidou represent two different challenges. Kaidou presented the problem that Luffy couldn’t damage him while Kizaru the issue will be his speed. Luffy’s gains against Kaidou won’t matter as much against Kizaru, because he won’t be able to land his attacks as easily as against Kaidou.

Kaidou can be stronger than Kizaru, but Kizaru still present a major challenge to Luffy.
 
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