Controversial Kizaru will either resign or Garling will punish him

[Salah WG]

After all, Imu is supposed to be one of the ancient founders of the WG which even the Gorosei would bow down to, secretly sitting on the throne which was supposed to be empty. By virtue of his stature he can't just casually walk around outside. Not even the Gorosei are seen doing so and they are the public faces. Imu would've nothing to gain from participating in the public. It's not like he compromises his well being by being absent of social interactions. That aside, it's obviously a storytelling perspective, by portraying him as a "hidden" boss.

But what do you mean with respectful guests? If they got their own territory there, why would Garling intervene? The reason Garling punished Mjosgard is because Mjosgard attacked Carlos for trying to enslave Shirahoshi, hence Garling referred to the act of "protecting trash" as being even bigger trash and that was the cause of the punishment.

Also, then again, who gives the holy knights such authority? The WG has vast resources and military might, why would they even subjugate themselves to the holy knights? Are they tied to the one(s) who according to you are scarier to the Gorosei? Who are they supposed to be? And why would they tolerate the influence of the WG instead of claiming it themselves?

The WG and its agenda exists for hundreds of years and is older than the holy knights, even in the recent past we have seen Saturn being much older than a yet young Garling, unless you say there is a cycle of holy knights iterating over millennia.

Also, why weren't the holy knights and Garling introduced as a different entity, rather than being tied to the Celestial Dragons? We know that in God Valley, the Native Hunting Competition was considered as a sport conducted by the Celestial Dragons, with one of them saying that the WG should claim that "God Valley" as their own in the process. And Dragon himself says that their true enemies are the Celestial Dragons and in this context refers to the holy knights that will be "utilized".

So far more hints towards the holy knights just being the supreme soldiers of the World Nobles rather than a separate entity.

The Gorosei are bowing to Imu cuz He is One of OG Founders, and He isn't just Secretly sitting on Empty Throne, He is Secretly living completely, and you just answered yourself, if Gorosei are very old & yet don't mind showing themselves then why does Imu hide? Are Gorosei better than him? I didn't tell you Imu needs to go out to outside World, the Guy doesn't even walk in Streets of Mary Geoise, so far He only appeared in Empty Hidden Rooms, and nothing suggests CDs outside Gorosei even know about him

The way i see it, Imu is just like Shirahoshi in Fish-Men Island, i mean She could walk around the Island freely, it's not like People will know She is Poseidon when They see her, for them She is just a Mermaid Royalty, but why was She hiding in a Secret Room? Cuz of Vander Decken IX

So Imu is Royalty who is Secretly above Gorosei, He wouldn't need to hide in Secret Rooms unless there is someone who endanger him within Mary Geoise itself, just like Shirahoshi

And Garling didn't punish Mjosgard for attacking Charlos, actually like 4 Days passed since He did that & yet no one scolded Mjosgard, i think you don't remember that Event well, but Mjosgard was Punished for helping Sai & Leo Escape, who declared War inside Mary Geoise, so Mjosgard lost his "Guest" Card, such a Man cannot be allowed to live there anymore

I didn't say "This" Holy Knights have existed since ever, i obviously mean their Ancestors & each Era have different Holy Knights, and why are you ignoring existence of Mary Geoise before WG? Who said that Mary Geoise was Empty without it's Inhabitants when those WG Founders decided to live there?

You could suggest that those Inhabitants were maybe Weak, but They aren't, cuz Mary Geoise came "After" Land of Gods, meaning whoever were originally living in Mary Geoise before WG even existed are the ones responsible for taking down Land of Gods, and They founded Mary Geoise, They were a Powerful Isolated Country just like Wano or Elbaf, Mary Geoise has it's own Story that came before WG

WG Founders have their own Kingdoms such as Dressrosa & probably Goa Kingdom ... etc
Meaning it's 20 Different Cultures & 20 Different Locations
They don't need to be Neighbors to rule the World, They are already Allied
Yet They chose to live in Mary Geoise & those who didn't were not given Authority, why?

Nefertari Family didn't refuse to create WG or join it, nor did They abandon their own Arabasta Kingdom, yet They can't live as CDs only cuz They refused to live in Mary Geoise, so it's pretty clear that the real evil comes from Mary Geoise itself, not Alliance of 20 Kings

And what's the dominant Culture in Mary Geoise? It's Land of Knights, their Fodders all wear Knight Armor
Why are 19 Royalties from different Culture suddenly all part of a Single Culture that is related to Knights?
And then Conveniently We get introduced to a Knight who executes a CD like it was good morning

It's obvious that Mary Geoise was Closed Country of Knights, just like Elbaf is for Vikings & Wano is for Samurai
And those OG Founders went to live and adapted to such Culture & became Influenced by those Knights living there

Garling being a Saint or even considered a CD is possible through Marriage, i didn't say those Holy Knights can't choose some CDs to Marry & then their Children would be both Holy Knights & CDs, all i'm saying is that Mary Geoise existed before WG, meaning it had it's own Culture & it's own People & it's own Goals, and everything suggests that it's Land of Knights, and that those People were responsible for Land of Gods Deletion

And i gave you an Example with Enies Lobby, it's an Ancient Place, it's Special, and it was turned into Judicial Island led by Judges, but in reality it was HQ of CP-9 Led by Spandam & Rob Lucci, so Mary Geoise being Home of CDs but Secretly belongs to a Super Powerful Squad isn't a New Idea, it's not something that Oda doesn't Write, He already did it once, He can do it again (And He clearly Inspired from Illuminati to Create World Government, Gorosei being Top World Leaders, doesn't mean there aren't Families who secretly rule the Land, We are talking about Families outside Families of Kings, just like in Real Life)

As for Holy Knights being Introduced as Different Entities, Holy Knights are not yet Introduced at all, We still don't have Confirmation of who They are & how They are chosen in first place. Gorosei on other hand were Officially Introduced Three Times, so it's not a fair comparison, no need to rush things, We can wait for their Introduction & judge better

It's also possible that Shanks being allowed to talk to Gorosei like that saying "Cuz it's you", suggests that He is more than just a CD, cuz We obviously know that WG doesn't care about those who abandoned their CD Power (Such as Doffy & his Father), this means that just having Holy Knights Blood, even if you are a Full-Fledged Great Pirate, allows you to get favors with Gorosei

And finally, you're completely ignoring what Akainu said, and what Doffy did to Moria, and how Garling's Actions aren't allowed to go Public, Homing is allowed to leave Mary Geoise & end up tortured by some poor people, but Mjosgard being punished must remain a Secret? That doesn't make any sense, unless People aren't allowed to know about who have Authority to do such thing

There is not a single Scene ever that suggests Gorosei can Execute another CD, saying they can is completely based on nothing tbh.
It's just an assumption to claim that Holy Knights are just Royal CP-0, making Holy Knights Existence completely unnecessary, Oda could have simply made CP-0 much Stronger & let Gorosei execute Mjosgard & be done with it, why Create similar Groups?

 

[RebelliousSoma]

The Gorosei are bowing to Imu cuz He is One of OG Founders

Imu only exists to the Gorosei. Nobody else within WG knows. When Vegapunk made his announcement it was clear all CDs are clueless.

 

[comrade]

Mjosgard was Punished for helping Sai & Leo Escape

He was executed for protecting fishmen, Garling's response was that protecting "subhuman scum" makes you sink even lower.

WG Founders have their own Kingdoms such as Dressrosa & probably Goa Kingdom ... etc
Meaning it's 20 Different Cultures & 20 Different Locations
They don't need to be Neighbors to rule the World, They are already Allied
Yet They chose to live in Mary Geoise & those who didn't were not given Authority, why?

Nefertari Family didn't refuse to create WG or join it, nor did They abandon their own Arabasta Kingdom, yet They can't live as CDs only cuz They refused to live in Mary Geoise, so it's pretty clear that the real evil comes from Mary Geoise itself, not Alliance of 20 Kings

And what's the dominant Culture in Mary Geoise? It's Land of Knights, their Fodders all wear Knight Armor
Why are 19 Royalties from different Culture suddenly all part of a Single Culture that is related to Knights?
And then Conveniently We get introduced to a Knight who executes a CD like it was good morning

It's obvious that Mary Geoise was Closed Country of Knights, just like Elbaf is for Vikings & Wano is for Samurai
And those OG Founders went to live and adapted to such Culture & became Influenced by those Knights living there

I think the reason the Nefertari family refused to move to Marijoa is that exact reason you teased, but it's not that Marijoa is the "source" of evil. Marijoa is just a representation of the Bourgeoisie and the decision of the ancient families to "move" to the "holy land", essentially considering themselves better humans, capable to rule over the "lesser" people living in the lower realms, something Lily and the Nefertari family refused to do, hence she was excluded from becoming a Celestial Dragon.

So it's not like before the WG, there was this evil, racist force in Marijoa that allowed good hearted people (the ancient families) to live there and corrupted them, the evil and racism was carried with everyone who decided to move to the "holy land" and elevate themselves from the people they consider lesser being. And obviously, living in this environment for many hundreds of years, almost a millennia, this evil, racist nature was deeply ingrained in later generations.

So I believe that whoever lived on Marijoa before the WG was established and the WG itself with the ancient royal families, over the course of time just merged into one entity through unifying their cultures and ideologies through living together, marrying and procreating.

So Imu is Royalty who is Secretly above Gorosei, He wouldn't need to hide in Secret Rooms unless there is someone who endanger him within Mary Geoise itself, just like Shirahoshi

Who could that be, within Marijoa?

 

[Salah WG]

He was executed for protecting fishmen, Garling's response was that protecting "subhuman scum" makes you sink even lower.

I think the reason the Nefertari family refused to move to Marijoa is that exact reason you teased, but it's not that Marijoa is the "source" of evil. Marijoa is just a representation of the Bourgeoisie and the decision of the ancient families to "move" to the "holy land", essentially considering themselves better humans, capable to rule over the "lesser" people living in the lower realms, something Lily and the Nefertari family refused to do, hence she was excluded from becoming a Celestial Dragon.

So it's not like before the WG, there was this evil, racist force in Marijoa that allowed good hearted people (the ancient families) to live there and corrupted them, the evil and racism was carried with everyone who decided to move to the "holy land" and elevate themselves from the people they consider lesser being. And obviously, living in this environment for many hundreds of years, almost a millennia, this evil, racist nature was deeply ingrained in later generations.

So I believe that whoever lived on Marijoa before the WG was established and the WG itself with the ancient royal families, over the course of time just merged into one entity through unifying their cultures and ideologies through living together, marrying and procreating.


Who could that be, within Marijoa?

Protecting Fishmen is like the full story, because that whole Sub-Plot was because of Shirahoshi
But it was stated before that the big News was "Attempted Murder of a CD (Saint Charlos)" And We discovered that it was at hands of Sai & Leo, who allowed & helped them? It was Mjosgard. Protecting Fishmen was the motive hence why it was written, but the crime itself, we've seen it, it was an Attempted Murder.

I'm not saying you can't be right, nor am i saying that i cannot be wrong, all i'm saying is that Mary Geoise is a Kingdom that existed before WG, meaning it has it's own Story, it doesn't matter if OG Kings were rotten from Start or not, but before They even Allied, Mary Geoise existed, meaning it had it's own People & it's own Culture

And whoever lived there are hinted to be the ones who took down Land of Gods.
What you just said is exactly what i been trying to say, that OG Kings & Mary Geoise Inhabitants merged together & unified their cultures & ideologies, all i'm suggesting is that those Hosts are Ancestors of Holy Knights & that They agreed for CDs to Rule World Government but Mary Geoise to remain as Land of Holy Knights, it's like an Alliance

It's like you have a Company, and you rule it from my House & you're allowed to organize meetings in it, but i'm still the man of the house, (Hence why it's my culture that is all over the place, not the guest's) that's all, the Company is still fully yours though. But over time, our children get married, resulting in my descendants being both High Ranking Members of that Company while still owning the house

Imu on the other hand is not part of the deal, so maybe Holy Knights don't know about him, it's like you secretly sold the company to someone (Making a deal with the devil), and He is living in my house without me knowing

However, it doesn't mean Imu specifically hides from Holy Knights, i think He hides from whoever CDs scare their Children with when They say "D. will Eat you if you don't behave", and i've seen how Imu overreacted when Cobra turned out to be D.

So imo One among D. is related to Mary Geoise & Imu doesn't know who He is.

Spoiler: Theory Part

This Part is just my Theory, but i believe D. People are like Punk Hazard Kids, They can be from anywhere, but Someone from Mary Geoise who is supposed to be Ruling instead of Imu ended up with them (Just like Momo) & that's who Imu is Scared of

Imu is Scared of Descendant of such Person, and He could be anyone, either from those who were already revealed to be D. or He could be living in Mary Geoise & hiding his True Identity or He could be living outside but have Allies inside Mary Geoise or Imu is afraid Holy Knights would side with such Enemy ... etc

Dragon is leading Revos Army, it could be him, or maybe it's Blackbeard who in a Twist of Fate is trying to join WG, or it can simply be Luffy, or maybe it's Vivi who is revealed to be both CD & D. or maybe it's Xebec who said He wanted to be King of The World ... etc

This is what Vegapunk teased imo, One among D. is a Fake & that's who Gorosei are afraid of.