Speculations Kizaru won the fight against Luffy

[Paperchampion23]

I'm not his babysitter, I let him fight his own battles, I just like to call you out on your bullshit from time to time.

You quite literally are babysitting his comments right now you loser

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He's just being toxic as usual.

The evidence makes it obvious Luffy and Saturn will happen.

What more evidence do you need then

1. Bonney needing to figure out Luffy is Nika.
2. Ginny's death needing a resolution.
3. Kuma is clearly not beating Saturn.
4. Both Kuma and Bonney claim they want to be saved by Nika.
5. Everyone including Kizaru dancing to Nika's heartbeat.


I always ask these people what do they think this arc will conclude for Bonney's character?

Will she go from wanting revenge on VP for 500 chapters, get 0 closure and then turn around and want revenge on Saturn for another 300 chapters?

Or will Luffy defeat Saturn for her this arc and bring her revenge arc to a closure?

Nah they clearly said Nika will save them as a joke, clearly the robot who hasn't done shit since it's introduction is going to suddenly get up and lay pipe on Saturn.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Blud still wasting his energy trying to convince me of something he desperately believes in lmao

 

[Durableguy]

Blud still wasting his energy trying to convince me of something he desperately believes in lmao

Yeah because it's so blatantly obviously going to happen lmao.

It's actually kinda strange how deep you are into this agenda.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yeah because it's so blatantly obviously going to happen lmao.

It's actually kinda strange how deep you are into this agenda.

Its strange at how obsessed you are with me and my opinion.

Like this really affects you, seek help bruh

 

[Durableguy]

Its strange at how obsessed you are with me and my opinion.

Like this really affects you, seek help bruh

Wait. You were the one who called me out this topic lol.

And then went on with the insults. In fact. In most of our interactions it's generally YOU who starts this shit.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Wait. You were the one who called me out this topic lol.

And then went on with the insults. In fact. In most of our interactions it's generally YOU who starts this shit.

Yeah thats BS lmao, nice revisionism. You jump on virtually every one of my conversations and threads to dickride Saturn and talk about my "agenda"

I didnt even quote you here, you started this conversation because you are upset i was making fun of you for shit you do

 

[Durableguy]

Yeah thats BS lmao, nice revisionism. You jump on virtually every one of my conversations and threads to dickride Saturn and talk about my "agenda"

No stop. Anyone can read this topic and see you started it. I can bring up 1104 and 1103 and spoiler topics and you were the one who tagged me out of nowhere.

Why lie?

Post where I mentioned you here.

You did so out of nowhere.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Loser > Maggot > Pedo is a crazy ass jump.
Even crazier when you realize that I've literally advocated for pedophiles to get the same treatment Griffith did by the king in Berserk.

No my problem when you say weird shit about fictional characters and it bites you in the ass several chapters later lmao
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...r-1092-spoilers-discussion.46618/post-4714866

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No stop. Anyone can read this topic and see you started it. I can bring up 1104 and 1103 and spoiler topics and you were the one who tagged me out of nowhere.

Why lie?

Post where I mentioned you here.

You did so out of nowhere.

And yet, you still quoted me first in this thread, once again


Oh you mean the very chapters where after MONTHS of you flaming, you act like a bitch when you got proven wrong two chapters in a row? Taste of your own medicine, dont be a baby.

 

[Mr.9000]

Kizaru was never really down like Luffy was. Bro just took a break; he felt bad about his friends. Kizaru definitely won that round.

 

[vikas]

Wizaru

 

[Adamxero]

This whole stamina thing is Oda writing himself into a corner and having to take Luffy out for a few chapters in order for him to do his 15 chapter flashbacks, fake tension and to give other Strawhats chance to shine.

Realistically Luffy beat Kizaru in one hit and there's no reason why he couldn't have done that at the start of the fight other than to allow this whole Kuma drama to unfold.

 

[Durableguy]

This whole stamina thing is Oda writing himself into a corner and having to take Luffy out for a few chapters in order for him to do his 15 chapter flashbacks, fake tension and to give other Strawhats chance to shine.

Realistically Luffy beat Kizaru in one hit and there's no reason why he couldn't have done that at the start of the fight other than to allow this whole Kuma drama to unfold.

They were arguing Kuma sacrifices himself to defeat Saturn so Luffy had 0 chance to get up and stomp the marines + Saturn.

Certain people absolutely do not want the strawhats to do well this arc.

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Same thing with the constant arguing Luffy runs away.

The strawhats taking out an elder. Kizaru. 30k marines simply goes against too many agendas

 

[M944]

If Kizaru vs Luffy happen again I think Kizaru will be used as an hypetool for G5
Hard to believe Saturn won't go down in this arc

He's built to be defeated. We have everything about him beside his DF's name and a potential backstory (which can be revealed later)

 

[zenox]

Pure speculation, it's not clear what the conditions are for using another round of Gear 5, the only time we saw Luffy do was remembering the suicide of someone else.

Also, the Kaido battle is the outlier not the rule, so you can't just generalize that to every situation Luffy is in without probable cause.

so much dodging
so now the condition for luffy to awaken g5 is remember how someone killed himself ?
or is it simply will power which is a major theme of onepiece and gear5
u dont need to force everything here

Congratulations, you've just discovered why Kizaru getting up while Luffy is still down is a big deal.

But now imagine that during the same situation at Enies Lobby, Lucci does get up and attack Luffy's crew while he's down. That's what happened here with Kizaru.

never fuckin happened
luffy defeated lucci the moment lucci got koed

whether he gets up after a 10 minutes paralyse is not even the case
in onepiece a fight isnt determined by who can still get up first
its determined by who delivered the finishing blow and if the opponent is in any condition to fight

this is why i gave the don krieg example ,
- luffy defeated him with the decisive blow

- krieg got knocked out

- luffy was also in no condition to fight after that

- but krieg got up wanting to fight more

- while luffy was still down

does that mean krieg won the match ?
what do u think

the moment luffy koes someone is the moment when the match ends
who got up first is completely irrelevant

 

[The White Crane]

Kizaru is back up and fighting while Luffy had to run away and get help and food given. Kizaru Also could have gotten up whenever he wanted to and finish off Luffy but being the great employee that he is, Kizaru let Saturn get the spotlight and lay down for abit .



Only after Saturn fumbled the bag does kizaru realize he can't pretend anymore and get back to action

Admirals reign supreme. Simply built different.

 

[DJOMOLO]

Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded

 

[DavyJones]

Look brosepis all we saw is that Luffy can finally stall his own fucking fights with ACoC. Both were down but not out, with Kizaru getting up first (probably because he was fresh and Luffy had been using G5 for a while now).

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I would say it was draw . However Kizaru not showing his Awakening or anything so far gives me he is winner of Round 1 .
Oda still has fetish for Admiral probably because they are designed based on famous Japanese heroes .

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

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