Versus Battle Kochou and GKHK vs Gyou’Un and ChougaRyuu

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#21
Shin and his soldiers have nothing to compare with the 10 bow tactic so it isn’t really a valid example
The Hi Hyou troops were present as well, and they couldn’t see his movement at all.

The Hi Hyou are elite troops that fought alongside Duke Hyou during the era of the Qin 6, Ouki even said the Hi Hyou were stronger than his own men. And they couldn’t see Gakuhaku Kou’s movements either.
 
#22
The Hi Hyou troops were present as well, and they couldn’t see his movement at all.

The Hi Hyou are elite troops that fought alongside Duke Hyou during the era of the Qin 6, Ouki even said the Hi Hyou were stronger than his own men. And they couldn’t see Gakuhaku Kou’s movements either.
It’s not about just having troops, it’s the specific formation, designed at keeping you boxed in, unable to move away from spears coming at you from every direction from 10 elite spearman with the major player there in the thick of it, ready to pounce, but if you focus on him, you’ve got the others. If you clean them out, you’ve got Gyouun. Hence why it was a move designed to be taking out opponents far, far superior to Gakuhaku.

Of course, this is assuming Gyou’un doesn’t just wreck the Gakuhaku army from his HQ.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#23
It’s not about just having troops, it’s the specific formation, designed at keeping you boxed in, unable to move away from spears coming at you from every direction from 10 elite spearman with the major player there in the thick of it, ready to pounce, but if you focus on him, you’ve got the others. If you clean them out, you’ve got Gyouun. Hence why it was a move designed to be taking out opponents far, far superior to Gakuhaku.
Bro getting behind an enemy army’s formation is just as difficult as getting out of an encirclement, and GHK did that casually.

In addition to that, one swing of Gakuhaku Kou’s weapon sends 7+ horses flying through the air, they absolutely cannot keep this man contained. Lol
 
#24
Bro getting behind an enemy army’s formation is just as difficult as getting out of an encirclement, and GHK did that casually.

In addition to that, one swing of Gakuhaku Kou’s weapon sends 7+ horses flying through the air, they absolutely cannot keep this man contained. Lol
I’m not sure what you mean by the first bit, but Gakuhaku would sweep fodders for sure- if he does that against the ten bows when in the formation, gyou’un has the distraction he needs
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#25
I’m not sure what you mean by the first bit, but Gakuhaku would sweep fodders for sure- if he does that against the ten bows when in the formation, gyou’un has the distraction he needs
Against any other fighter this might be true, but it is not true against a guy who can literally vanish without a trace lmfao.
 
#28
No, he won’t lmfao

Like I said, a guy who can get behind enemy lines without being scene isn’t being contained in an encirclement by ten dudes lol. GHK literally vanished with dozens of men looking at him, ten men won’t contain him.
He didn’t literally teleport through moving objects lol. You don’t replace enemy lines with the Raigoki, you add the Raigoku to the enemy lines. You’re vastly overrating him by putting him in the category of Kanmei and so. Soon as Shin switched to a weapon he could use at speed he was cooked.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#29
He didn’t literally teleport through moving objects lol.
Look at this:


They literally cannot even see him. Lmfao

Soon as Shin switched to a weapon he could use at speed he was cooked.
Factually wrong and incoherent, Gakuhaku Kou made Shin his bitch with every weapon. Shin literally beat him by cheating lmfao. He exploited a momentary weapon disadvantage to cut through Gakuhaku’s moon blade, otherwise Shin was getting mid diffed.







And don’t feed me any bullshit about GHK’s men attacking Shin, Shin’s men attacked GHK as well, GHK just killed them all.
 
#30
Look at this:


They literally cannot even see him. Lmfao



Factually wrong and incoherent, Gakuhaku Kou made Shin his bitch with every weapon. Shin literally beat him by cheating lmfao. He exploited a momentary weapon disadvantage to cut through Gakuhaku’s moon blade, otherwise Shin was getting mid diffed.







And don’t feed me any bullshit about GHK’s men attacking Shin, Shin’s men attacked GHK as well, GHK just killed them all.
how did he cheat? He just switched to a weapon that he could manipulate easier as he hadn’t mastered the glaive.

Shin’s men attacking are not the same as the Raigoku.

Shin getting punched, kicked and ragdolled is great and all - I mean Gaku basically beat him up, but look at the tangible injuries. You’re not beating these top guys like that. What happens when Gaku’s tricks get figured out by better, more skillful fighters than that version of Shin?
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#31
how did he cheat? He just switched to a weapon that he could manipulate easier as he hadn’t mastered the glaive.
Correct, he didn’t beat GHK via his own strength and skill because GHK was colossally above Shin in all regards.

Shin beat GHK by cheating with an advantageous weapon. What Shin did was the equivalent of getting his ass beat in a fist fight, so Shin pulls out a Glock. Lmfao

You wouldn’t claim the motherfucker who brought the Glock to the fist fight was the superior fighter lol, bro just straight cheated.

What happens when Gaku’s tricks get figured out by better, more skillful fighters than that version of Shin?
You means what happens if GHK fights someone who can push him past low diff in a fair fight? Lol

Well, if they cheat, anything is possible.
 
#32
Correct, he didn’t beat GHK via his own strength and skill because GHK was colossally above Shin in all regards.

Shin beat GHK by cheating with an advantageous weapon. What Shin did was the equivalent of getting his ass beat in a fist fight, so Shin pulls out a Glock. Lmfao

You wouldn’t claim the motherfucker who brought the Glock to the fist fight was the superior fighter lol, bro just straight cheated.



You means what happens if GHK fights someone who can push him past low diff in a fair fight? Lol

Well, if they cheat, anything is possible.
Cheating with an advantageous weapon? That’s so ridiculous lol. It’s a bloody sword! Shins pure skill with the glaive was his weakest attribute - there’s people he’s actually stronger than who have more pure skill and that’s why Shin struggled so much. Note this was never Shin going absolutely crazy either.

The Shin of today would dominate him. Yet Shin definitely would not ‘dominate’ top tiers. His speed and manipulation of such a heavy weapon is better now than it was.

Gakuhaku is brilliant but something of a quirky gimmick.
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You don’t kill the top tiers by dancing around and punching/kicking them in the face.
 
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